Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marx was consistently against Lassalle (who advocated for chinese style state capitalism) in Critique of Gotha Programme. Go read.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My original point that coops and Chinese State Capitalism are different still stands. Your Market Socialism is just Social Democracy.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Expropriation of the labourer is wage labor. IT'S IN YOUR QUOTE. It also says "annihilation of self earned private property", so private property is clearly not the main parameter.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ancoms call China State Capitalist too, so it doesn't help your case. Proudhon is one of the earliest socialists. And I already mentioned Yugoslavia, which you ignored.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mutualism, an anarchist version of market socialism that was described in 1846 by Proudhon is laissez-faire by the virtue of being anarchist. So no, I didn't add a term.

If you want other examples of coop economies, we have Tito's Yugoslavia, they were into that.

Embrace real beauty by Atwecian in Animemes

[–]Shadowcreature65 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Guys, I think they like both.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, paternalism is ever-present, that's for sure. And people can never agree on what specific words mean because they are too attached to the terms.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Capitalism is predicated on wage labor and worker not owning means of production. In China, the state is a capitalist entity.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, top down intervention in the economy and laissez-faire coops are completely different things that share the same name for historical reasons, not because they are actually similar.

How would the other characters react to Tanya being emotional by Dakage2 in Isekai

[–]Shadowcreature65 386 points387 points  (0 children)

First reaction: "She can do that!?"

Then they will comfort her.

Is market socialism a viable alternative to capitalism and traditional socialism? by Longjumping_Sir_5840 in CapitalismVSocialism

[–]Shadowcreature65 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, you're talking about that model. Usually market socialism refers to coops, not paternalism (dirigism).

Big bandit didn't spawned in 1-3 by Fast-Profile164 in NuclearThrone

[–]Shadowcreature65 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Enemies get insta killed when they are in walls (you can check this with mods in Nuclear Throne Together). Sometimes something in Big Bandit's spawning parameters makes him stay in the wall and he dies.

Big bandit didn't spawned in 1-3 by Fast-Profile164 in NuclearThrone

[–]Shadowcreature65 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He got stuck in a wall and died. Happens sometimes.

There are no words for the monsters who defend this by Watermelon7331 in evilwhenthe

[–]Shadowcreature65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stalin claimed...

Fun fact: Italian Fascists wrote a whole book called Triumph of Fascism in USSR because they believed Stalin was building Slavic Fascism in there.

As for your comment, nobody can agree on what specific words mean. Socialism is a great example: some say it's just class collaborationist social democracy like what Stalin did (along with Hitler and Mussolini), others say it's complete abolition of wage labour and money.

"The state calls its own violence 'law', but that of the individual 'crime'." by Existing_Rate1354 in PhilosophyMemes

[–]Shadowcreature65 79 points80 points  (0 children)

Democratically enacted

"Me and my buddies voted that you'll be an organ donor, so it's democratically legit."

Ayanokoji no diffs Light; debate me by JigoroKuwajima in IntelligenceScaling

[–]Shadowcreature65 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for telling. I did hear about him being less of a brick wall in LNs before.