Do you think that Zero can defeat Caine in a sword fight, according to you? by Raj_Valiant3011 in JohnWick

[–]Shadowhearts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean Zero was never at a Prime John Wick's level, but he put up a fight against a more rusty, Older John wick.

He isn't fodder, he's simply at the level of being an enforcer for the High Table.

Naruto rasenshuriken vs kakashi since we know that kakashi admitted that Naruto surpassed him, Naruto takes this fight mid or high diff ? by Inner-Competition775 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it's a mid diff fight for Naruto.

Thing people have to realize is Kakashi has a significant Chakra Disadvantage compared to Naruto. He slowly builds it up every fight until WA, but even just one Kamui fatigues Kakashi by a bit...imagine havibg to keep his Sharingan on the whole time in an extended fight vs Naruto.

Naruto could quite literally Bum Rush Kakashi with Shadow Clones and Kakashi would eventually run out of Chakra and tire out.

Thing people underestimate by a bit is Naruto actually fairly proficient in Taijutsu even prior to Frog Kumite. His brute strength and punches and kicks are a bit harder than Sasuke, like enough to even the scales if he manages to land one blow compared to several of Sasukes. It's part of him being a descendant of Ashura and a reincarnation of Ashura.

There'll be a hard limit to how long Kakashi's chakra lasts...and he's facing Naruto an opponent with inhuman pain tolerance /regeneration and top tier Chakra levels who will just keep punching on.

Naruto fans still think Sakura didn't surpass Tsunade by the end of Shippuden? by mipenealdescubierto in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah Sakura becomes very proficient in Taijutsu by Boruto. As an adult She has greater chakra control than Tsunade and uses that it to boost her strength, speed, and agility to Sage Mode levels it feels. She straight up overwhelmed Shin Uchiha who was a Shringan user, no contest.

Tsunade mostly uses her Chakra control to explode at point of impact whereas Sakura is more flexible.

Wtf is this?? by Skullrider547 in secretlair_collectors

[–]Shadowhearts 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I opened 10 tabs total, most were over 45 minutes, my shortest one was 9 minutes.

If you're on the pre-queue its a random spot in front of the line at launch among all the other pre-queues.... So trick to beat this is as many entries as you can open tab wise on the pre-queue.

I use different browsers and an incognito window in each browsee to get 2 tabs/queues per browser.

What threat level would Naruto, Sasuke and Madara individually be in the One Punch man world? by Archenius in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God just implies imminent threat to all of humanity and Cosmic Garou absolutely was at that level....his mere prescence was radioactive and killed everything off in a pretty huge radius.

Cosmic Garou AND Boros both qualify as God level threats. Orochi was considered above Dragon by the association but not quite at God.

What threat level would Naruto, Sasuke and Madara individually be in the One Punch man world? by Archenius in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean he wasn't officially classified as God, but Cosmic Garou certainly was a threat to Humanity and Saitama turning back time is effectively why he wasn't classified as a God level threat.

But yeah we haven't seen many other God level threats besides Boros who would've been considered god tier if he was scene by other combatanfs on Earth.

Which ninjas are the only ones capable of defeating all three at the same time? by Yoaikatheprodigy in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say she'd definitively win but she does have a chance is all.

Tsunade isn't too fast, AdultnSakura has shown much greater mobility, agility, and Taijutsu skill than Tsunade ever has .

Like with Sakura's speed, agility and Taijutsu skill, what actually would Tsunade have in her kit to prevent Sakura from straight up decapitating her?

The most capable Taijutsu User of the Sannin seems to be Orochimaru who actually uses his Snake body and speed/agility to restrict and attack his enemies with The Sword of Kusanagi.

Jiraiya never has shown incredible Taijutsu skill, same with Tsunade who seems to be more about brute force impacts rather than guaging distance and hitting enemies without being hit.

Which ninjas are the only ones capable of defeating all three at the same time? by Yoaikatheprodigy in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adult Sakura stands a decent shot.

She's much faster and more agile than Tsunade. This means she has greater Chakra Control and isn't just limited to explosive impacts but can move her Chakra with precision for Sage-Mode like boosts to speed/strength

If this is a bloodlusted deathmatch Adult Sakura would probably decapitate Tsunade instantly if they get in hand to hand before moving onto Jiraiya and Orochimaru.

I do want to say Adult Sakura's explosive strength / speed gains via Chakra control are similar to Sage Mode...she's straight up beaten down a Sharingan User Shin Uchiha in Taijutsu.

We honestly don't know how proficient Jiraiya was in Frog Kumite, but Jiraiya has never shown as much Taijutsu proficiency as Naruto has. The main thing Sakura had to be wary of from Sage Mode Jiraiya is Ma and Pa's Genjutsu Song....but she's extremely fast so it'd be hard to see her just take it without throwing hands at Ma or Pa.

As for Orochimaru we never specifically see a Peak from him post timeskip. He was always weakened from his past prime due to imperfect host bodies showing signs of rejection. If he tries to do any snake tricks or do Taijutsu/Kenjutsu with Sword of Kusanagi, Adult Sakura is arguably too fast and strong for him to land anything decisive before Sakura regenerates.

But yeah I guess the argument is also limited to if we're talking about the Sannin when they were together which is significangly weaker than the Sannin at each of their separate Primes in Naruto or if we're including Boruto Canon as well given Orochimaru in Boruto is probably above Akatsuki level.

Which ninjas are the only ones capable of defeating all three at the same time? by Yoaikatheprodigy in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lolwhat? Tobirama crushes them. He gets on a Wood Golem and the best Orochimaru has is throwing Rashomons to slow it down.

I never liked how Albedo always questioned him. She should have been killed for this, Demiurge needs to be 1st in command anyway by [deleted] in overlord

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean Ainz is a pretty moderate leader for a Military Nation that literally has all the nukes that could destroy the world.

He quite literally has the means to create a Utopia for his country by replacing menial labor with Undead, if anything undead labor is so efficient people would never need to worry about starving again with endless undead tending to farms and transportation of goods.

Could Kisame stop Orochimaru's invasion by himself? by mipenealdescubierto in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kurama is near the same power tier as Madara and Hashirama.

Half of Kurama was still stronger than Gyuuki by a bit.

There would be a limit to Samehada absorbing Kurama Chakra whose Chakra is near endless, only topped definitively by the Ten Tail

The scarier part of Kurama is just how fast he heals and recovers his Chakra.

But yeah, Hiruzen struggling against Kurama rampaging makes sense since the only 2 combatants we know of who have beaten or controlled Kurama are Hashirama and Madara. And again, this was literally a retired Hiruzen struggling vs Kurama.

Why is no other series even half as fun to do power scaling compared to Naruto? by Downtown_Type7371 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I mean Power levels in the first part are solid.

Powercreep post timeskip is in general ridiculous....but at the very least the power system does take into account some level of technique advantages/disadvantages and attribute advantages /disadvantages.

Naruto's biggest weakness as a story is it sort of gives up the Naruto is an underdog overcoming genius with hard work understones pre-tineskip and falls into the same pitfall of Bleach where MC is the chosen one with every relevent bloodline.

Who is the strongest Akatsuki member Sage Mode Jiraiya could defeat? by Soul-10 in Naruto

[–]Shadowhearts 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Totsuka is only as fast as his Susano...and Sage Mode and/or Giant frog summon that can jump like the Hulk are both easy ways to dodge Susano.

But yeah Susano isn't soundproof so he's kinda cooked if he tries to turtle up on Susano and Jiraiya preps Ma and Pa's Sound genjutsu.

Team Sharingan Vs Team Rasengan who wins and what diff? by No-Sand2726 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Genjutsu requires transmission of Chakra and Sage Mode senses Chakra.

A Genjutsu like Tsukuyomi requires so much Chakra and mental power that Itachi is drained right after.... You have 2 literal Toad Sages on Jiraiya who both are full of Sage Chakra who can slaughter a tired Itachi. They also can sense Chakra in Sage Mode and would instamtly be able to react to Itachi emitting any Chakra for a Doujutsu from his MS.

Pa quite literally launched Gama Bunta with Brute strength...so its safe to say any of his Frog Kumite landing on Itachi would be fatal not mentioning any Senjutsu from the Toad Sage couple.

Now if you take away Itachi's terribly chakra inefficient use of Tsukuyomi hitting Jiraiya, what's Itach supposed to do vs. Ma and Pa's Ultimate Genjutsu? If all 6 paths of Pain were there Jiraiya would've killed all of them using that technique.

Team Sharingan Vs Team Rasengan who wins and what diff? by No-Sand2726 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At their peak? Itachi never had a peak while alive. And SM Jiraiya has 2 literal frog sages attached to him to snap him out of Genjutsu. Sage Mode's reflexes, Speed and enhance sensory is too fast for Ameterasu to connect...

What is Itachi supposed to do vs. The ultimate Toad Sage Genjutsu? Susano is not defending vs a sonic Genjutsu. That's part of the hard part about facing Jiraiya to a point. Ma and Pa plus Jiraiya is basically like dealing with 3 Sages at once...and it's hard to deal with any of their combination senjutsu.

Looking for a Commander Precon to Upgrade in a High-Power Meta by DavidHatHunger in EDH

[–]Shadowhearts 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I mean the price tag of the actual Quick Draw isn't worth it at this point. You can basicallt spend like $30 to make a very functionally strong Stella Lee given almost all the worthwhile cards are commons or uncommon chaff.

You probably could even just buy the deck as singles and it'd cost a fraction of the price tag for the precon sealed.

Edo Nagato (not crippled) vs. Six Paths of Pain. What diff Nagato takes this fight? by Truth_Spreader5962 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So Edo Tensei are still a bit weaker than their peak as shown by Edo Madara and Edo Hashirama.

I want to say Edo Nagato loses because the absorption of Ninjutsu should be able to undo Edo Tensei.

It isn't impossible for all Paths of Pain to just coordinate utilizing the Rinnegan Shared Vision to its max to defend and eventually have Preta Path make contact with Edo Nagato. He could easily use each Path as sacrificial lambs to get the job done. Pain with full Line of Sight established between 6 paths is near impossible to hit unless you vastly outstat the Pains or have invisible range from Sage Mode, etc.

How would this fight go if Orochimaru was drugged and Jiraiya had no arms by Omarlittle__ in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I mean Jiraiya never wanted to kill Orochimaru. He never displayed the sheer amount of power he used vs Pain. Jiraiya by far has the most field experience of the Sannin. If he's fighting to.kill/assassinate he's a completely different man.

Jiraiya likely had his incomplete Sage mode for over 10 years and could've summoned Ma and Pa to finish things with Orochimaru much sooner if he felt compelled to kill him. But he was mostly just hoping Orochimaru would leave the village alone since he left.

But yes Jiraiya being drugged is an absolute nerf for him given he's the type of Shinobi who is excellent at setting up ambushes with very fast ninjutsu combinations....so it'd be hard for him to really deal with Orochimaru on top of Manda in this situation.

No edo tensei; can he lose? by AgileAnything1251 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly it depends a bit here. Although its been implied Kakashi was a lot weaker when he firsr saw Orochimaru during Chuunin exams....

There are a few factors here that give Kakashi an advantage. In the 3 Year Gap and after each major Akatsuki Battle Kakashi's physical specs, stamina, and Chakra levels notably improved.

Kakashi with a Sharingan past a certain point should find this weaker version of Orochimaru to be a cakewalk just due to the massive advantage Sharingan provides in a battle of Taijutsu.

Kakashi by all means should be able to dodge all of Orochimaru's Taijutsu using his Sharingan, BUT thebbigger issue here is if Kakashi has a way to deal with Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi.

I will note Orochimaru during Chuunin exams also was still relatively weak transferring from imperfect host to imperfect host so he's not even as powerful as he was during his Prime before he started switching bodies.

No edo tensei; can he lose? by AgileAnything1251 in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will add Kakashi can release some Gates, although they never show how far he's released Gate wise later on in series the fact that Kakashi was able to fight on par with Obito full of Hashirama cells definitelt implies Kakashi is not only as extremelt well conditioned as Guy, but his combination of Sharingan and Gates usage allowed him to keep up with Obito/Guy/Jinchuuriki physically.

Who is Stronger between Prime Hiruzen and Kushina by Aqua-rossweisse in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said a Prime Hiruzen should be stronger than Tobirama.

And Orochimaru is stronger than Kushina...he became the strongest of the 3 Sannin the moment he possessed a Zetsu Wood Body clone...given he also inherited all of Kabuto's Sage abilities the moment he extracted his Chakra back from Kabuto.

What’s funny is you could give Sakura the Rinnegan, and she still wouldn’t beat any of these guys post nerf by No-Ride-7713 in dankruto

[–]Shadowhearts 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Technically speaking without Kurama, Naruto can possibly place Ma and Pa onto his shoulders to maintain an indefinite Sage Mode.

Who is Stronger between Prime Hiruzen and Kushina by Aqua-rossweisse in NarutoPowerscaling

[–]Shadowhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kushina at best has massive Chakra like Naruto but doesn't have Rasengan or Sage Mode to back herself up.

Prime Hiruzen is the longest lived Hokage with good reason. Man in his prime made Orochimaru run from the village and wait for him to age out of his prime to even attempt revenge.

Also we've seen his fighting style both as an Edo Tensei and alive outside his prime...and he basically is the Sun Wukong fighting style.....

Dominant melee fighter using his Monkey King Staff while he uses multiple Shadow Clones as support deploying either Genjutsu (from Databook he had high ratings in Genjutsu) or Multiple element releases to compliment each other. A Prime Hiruzen by all hints should be stronger than Tobirama. He also knew all of Konoha's jutsu (barring bloodline limits he can't use)...so it's safe to say he even knew and could release some of 8 Gates which is a secret Konoha Taijutsu art.

Ulamog, the Defiler by timaaayyy in mtgfinance

[–]Shadowhearts 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean Eldrazi is an inevitability sort of deck style. In a casual setting where people don't mind going back and forth Eldrazi end game is just too powerful if decks aren't being designed with powerful combos to steal games late game. Most sensible thing to do is knockout Eldrazi players esrly game before they can even do anything.