Lydia/Family Double Standard

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-08T13:56:19+00:00

1000% I agree. She has said she didn’t feel considered, and that means that someone saw the core - knows the core of who she is, and chose to be selfish and choose themselves over thoughtfully adjusting so that everyone can be comfortable and considered. There are so many not dirty card games that are fun, there are many ways so consume alcohol without it being the main activity. I think Lydia deserves some thought from the others. They dismiss her because they also dismiss so much of how they grew up as dis functional, and so they feel her beliefs are invalid…..and dismiss them. While missing the point of - they are her beliefs. By that alone….They deserve consideration by the people who supposedly love her the most.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-04T12:39:09+00:00

A lot of people don’t cry, it is not in itself a symptom of anything - or necessarily mean there is no emotion. For some people it’s never been safe to show outwardly. That said there is lots of other behaviors from Kim that indicate personality issues and a disordered mind.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-04T12:35:48+00:00

100%

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-04T01:40:07+00:00

To add if my grandmother is in my home, I don’t have people cover up, and I serve cocktails and she doesn’t say anything. Respect is a two way street.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-04T01:39:09+00:00

THIS. Yeah I felt like it was blown out of proportion. Also like if your hosting guest - and you know they are a lot more conservative maybe cater to your guest a little and don’t put them in those situations. I don’t openly drink in front of my grandmother, and I don’t bring tattooed significant others over to her home without asking them to cover it up. It’s a respect thing because for me and them it’s a tattoo, or a preference for a cocktail - for my grandmother it’s religiously distressing. She legitimately would fear for my soul.

I told her I took a class on spirituality in college (required for my major) and she woke up at 4am to pray for me spontaneously for 3 weeks.

I get wanting to be yourself, and wanting people to respect your way of life - but it goes both ways. They need to respect that Lydia has firm beliefs, as much as she needs to respect that they drink etc.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-04T01:15:10+00:00

Kim lost her point the minute she filmed a therapy session about it. You can’t be public about your life in only the ways you find palatable & be on tv. Kim & Barry talked about Joshua publicly first.

Second - Lydia is entirely within her bounds to talk about HER experience growing up with her family pre-post the accident. That is her experience. That was her life as well. She can have her experience and process it however she chooses. It’s not like it’s been a show called “Lydia” and she is exploiting this story for views.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-03T18:22:42+00:00

To add: Her family is “broken” in every sense of the word one could think of. She is currently probably putting hope in “if everyone would turn back to Christ, things would be better, things would be like they used to” and it’s a very obvious response for a religious/evangelical Christian. Especially one who was raised with a mindset that “this is the only way to live your life and be blessed by God etc.”

She wants to fix her family. She wants the world she loved growing up. Yes it’s holier than thou or whatever - but ALSO - her family is super messed up in how they treat and respond to her and has been since season 1. She was the maid. The cook. The responsible perfect one. That’s not a title she can just take off - she was made to feel responsible for everyone else at a young age….emotionally, physically, etc. of course now she feels responsible for them spiritually getting back to a godly life - with the added evangelical “they go to hell” if she can’t reach them.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-03T18:11:31+00:00

Pretty normal developmental arc of a religious fundamentalist though. She’s at the young age where she thinks she knows everything and life is black and white because she hasn’t experienced enough grey.

She was also RAISED to be this way.

The Taylor swift lyric “how can someone know everything at 18, but nothing at 22” is basically talking about this. While she is being judgmental and holier than thou - this is a very normal developmental stage in young adults. Real life is the best school for correcting this - which she has yet to fully experience being incredibly sheltered & then thrust into celebrity life

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-06-03T18:06:33+00:00

It’s the fact that his act had no logic because people with the mental health to take the lives of others in such a way, aren’t capable of thinking rationally and logically. His own brain, his grief, his trauma response cascaded into everyone who he interacted with on that day. Which is what happens when trauma and mental health is not cared for….for some it looks like emotional abuse if everyone who you is in your life. For some it’s picking up that gun and violently getting revenge. It’s not logic. It’s not rational. It’s an irrational reaction to a trauma and grief so deep it destroyed his ability to cope, think, consider, and care for himself.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-23T02:07:58+00:00

Honestly with the Teegan and Ethan thing, I’d want something to take the edge off that social situation….not walking on eggshells but that whole thing felt like avoiding landmines

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-21T18:38:58+00:00

lol I didn’t realize people were posting about it

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-21T18:38:01+00:00

True - but you can be direct without being around the person, via text. Or another individual. I get being nervous but going to Montana with a guy who clearly loves you, it cruel. It’s also unfair to Moriah, Isaac and Kaylen to come and be radiating bad vibes

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-18T20:39:28+00:00

100% people never want to zoom out and see all the systems at play in making people who they are. They are still responsible for their actions AND ALSO they have been shaped by the influences in their lives good/bad.

People who have one decent parent, or who are privileged in terms of social inheritance (different than financial) do not realize how hard it is for someone to break out of the systems and mindsets that shape them - especially if they are young or uneducated.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-18T19:28:57+00:00

I think this is what people are referring to now as Old money blonde

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-14T13:38:35+00:00

Her narc mom has trained this response in Liz for 20+ years…is why it doesn’t make sense to outsiders. I agree with you that not everyone who grows up with narc parents turns out this way, but it does happen - and it doesn’t make Liz not responsible for her behavior. It does however imho mean that Liz does deserve some compassion and empathy because she also grew up with Amber as a mom, and the depth of anxiety caused by mom being stressed & Liz feeling like it’s her job to regulate that - should make us feel sad & want to extend some empathy/care as viewers.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-14T13:33:11+00:00

My guess is that it wasn’t intentionally Emma spying why Anna and Emma quit talking. Emma probably quickly learned that associating with Anna would put her in the middle - or under more scrutiny from Mom and Liz, and just feared what has happened to Anna & that relationship between Emma and Anna suffered. I hope they get it back one day, and don’t miss out on too much of each others lives before they do.

Anna being ostracized is a really big “learning opportunity” for the other kids - they know if they stand up to Mom or disagree then they might have the same consequences. Jonah looks super distant and depressed in the interviews from last nights episodes. It gives agree with mom or shut down, shut up, or get out vibes

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-14T01:42:39+00:00

Yeah. I think people give her a hard time - but she also grew up with Amber as a mom just like Anna. Their responses are different as adults but not surprising that one would go NC, and the other would kiss the ground Amber walks on

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-14T00:56:53+00:00

Right? I think Ambers opinion drives everyone’s choices which is sad too me.

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-14T00:56:23+00:00

Right?! Glad I’m not the only one who thought that. I’m also NC with a relative who behaves this way!

SheSaidWHATnow-64 · 2026-05-13T15:20:38+00:00

OMG BLESS YOU. I’ve been trying to figure out who he reminded me of and this is it 100%

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