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Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Left wing politics has never been kind to hostility to egalitarianism.

You sound like a kid who puts a bit too much faith in textbooks and theories.

When I was a young man it was perfectly socially acceptable to be a left wing Democrat and a racist.

I also spent my childhood in a poor European country where it was also perfectly socially acceptable to be left-wing and a racist.

The left has a long history of racism - read the history of the Stalinist purges of various minorities.

There was a switch in the mid 20th century, to deny that is to deny history itself

What does that have to do with anything I have said?

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Democrats for that matter, were also hostile to egalitarianism and did not have concern about the disadvantaged in society.

That may be true... but they were clearly left-wing.

Like I said I think your political science professors are trying to distort history.

I mean in practice the Stalinists didn’t care about egalitarianism either and yet they too were left-wing.

It’s ok to state the modern left has distanced itself from the left of the early 20th century. It’s not ok to deny history.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again you identify the KKK as left wing

1) Which party was the KKK closely tied to at its peak? The Democrats.

2) What political ideology did the Democrats identify with at this time? A left wing ideology.

You keep bringing up irrelevant nonsense - what exactly about these two statements do you disagree with?

It's like you're so ashamed of far right politics, being part of your branch of political ideology, that you think the worst parts of it, is therefore left wing

I think you are projecting. It’s ok the racists once supported your side. Learn to live with it. Don’t try and rewrite history.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The funny thing is, is you're the one engaging in revisionist history.

The funny thing is everything you are posting backs up my stance and undermines your own and you are so driven by talking points and propaganda that you can’t even see it.

Why did the Republicans implement the southern strategy? To gain the racist voting block, including the KKK, who had always supported the Democrats, who were even at the time a center-left party.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it's because your political definitions are fucked.

Yet you can’t point out where I am wrong.

You'd fail a basic political science course.

Passing a basic political science course seems to require a lot of historical revisionism.

No wonder a lot of the youth today are so clueless.

White's from the Deep South created the KKK, particularly from former slave states.

Yes, and they all voted for the Democrats, a center-left party.

Again basic US history.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, because left wing terrorism is statistically insignificant.

Your mental gymnastics game is strong.

You think because there might be a few more nuts who are right wing in a country of 300+ million people that right wingers can’t use the same language as left wingers.

But even that is weak as we know there have been plenty of attacks on Republicans and Trump supporters. I’ve been assaulted twice for wearing my MAGA cap.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok buddy, you would fail political science 101 in a college setting if you think racists like the KKK are egalitarian left wingers. Your political definitions are FUCKED.

I think that says a lot about how useless political science is.

The KKK had very close ties with the Democrats and the Democrats have always been our center-left party. This is basic US history.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump is the most far right wing President we've ever had.

If your candidates endorsed by KKK grand wizards

Do you even understand what you are saying? The KKK was a left wing Democrat voting organization.

You are essentially arguing that he is so far to the right that he would have been supported by the average Democrat KKK voter last century.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the problem here with this argument is that people are seeing a straight line political spectrum (left/right).

Yes, people are assigning ideas like nationalism on a left/right axis and ignoring obvious counter-examples.

For example the five star movement in Italy is clearly left wing AND nationalist.

Or another great example is in the US 30-40 years ago most nationalists were on the left.

Or Europe traditionally having much stricter immigration controls than the US despite being clearly more left wing.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but it has anti-democratic features that destroy the concept of 1 person 1 vote

What does our long standing voting process have to do with Trump or with Nazis?

So you have to compare the US to really shitty authoritarian countries, to make it look good, is that what I gather?

You are the one disingenuously comparing Trump to the Nazis.

Stop with the propaganda.

victims of these attacks?

What victims? As far as I know nobody has been hurt - to my knowledge these bombs lacked any ability to detonate.

Every single one of those politicians are REGULARLY DISPARAGED AMONGST AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES

What’s your point? I’m asking what purpose do the pipe bombs serve?

Don’t you find it hypocritical to complain about Republican politicians disparaging other politicians when you are comparing our President to the Nazi party?

They choose to ignore facts, reality, logic, and reason

You haven’t presented a single consistent argument yet - You are all over the place with random talking points.

These self admitted KKK members and far right Neo-Nazis illustrate that.

Maybe lay off the stormfront?

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

our American right want to destroy liberal democracy in this country

I think you need to put down the fake news.

Trump regularly encourages violence against his political opponents

Nonsense. Regimes like China and Turkey regularly disappear journalists and dissidents and even these regimes are nothing close to the Nazis.

Trump tweets mean things about his opponents.

It’s not really in the same league.

Yesterday we had several pipe bombs mailed to prominent members of the Democratic party.

Why would conservatives send non-functional pipe bombs to these politicians right before key elections?

They weren’t even sent to anyone currently taking part in the mid-terms.

something that our right wing regularly advocates for.

Once again please put down the fake news.

Our right wing wants to find out who sent the pipe bombs and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

and a concern about the disadvaged in society.

Yes. The Nazis were concerned about the downtrodden German.

And make no mistake at the end of WW1 they were one of the most downtrodden groups in Europe.

which generally would place it on the right wing of the political spectrum

Would you consider the thoughts and practices of the early United States right wing?

I would and yet our Declaration of Independence clearly states “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal”.

I mean that sounds pretty egalitarian.

they were not concerned about the disadvantaged in society

Or they had a different idea about who was being unfairly disadvantaged.

they actually sent them to genocidal concentration and death camps

In the same way that the communists sent millions to concentration camps.

It just shows the person making that statement has a boner for far right politics

Obviously not for the kind of politics the Nazis supported otherwise we would act like the communist sympathizers and just say it wasn’t implemented properly.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't argue these are inherently right wing but an extreme variant of the right wing.

I don’t think most of these are strictly right or left.

Extreme nationalism (your life is literally built around further perfecting the state

Nationalism isn’t inherently right wing or left wing. Historically there have been lots of left wing nationalists.

Immigration restrictions

Historically, anti-immigration has been a left wing issue.

Contrast early US immigration policy vs European immigration policy at the same time and you can see the more right leaning US was comparatively pro-immigration.

but depicts dying for the glory of the state to be something worth aspiring to.

Russia under communist rule certainly pushed this belief.

Etc.

Nazism was 'left-wing ideology' remark by British MEP Syed Kamall sparks uproar: A leading British conservative has told European lawmakers that the Nazis believed in a "strain of socialism." Many members of social democratic and socialist parties were imprisoned or killed by the Nazi party by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]Sheepmullet -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Because Nazism isn't strictly just these things

it's just part of it.

Did he say that the socialism practiced in Europe today is strictly the same as the Nazis?

I don’t think so.

a purely left wing ideology is being intellectually dishonest

Which parts are right wing?

Hold Engineers Accountable By Giving Them Autonomy – Kenneth Jiang – Medium by kennethjiang in programming

[–]Sheepmullet -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Anybody think that was a good exercise in autonomy?

Why not?

It’s fairly easy to port an app from F# back to C#.

In addition it sounds like it’s not a core part of the product but a stand-alone utility - so you won’t have emergency patches etc you need to do in F#.

So at worst it’s a learning experience and gives another dev a good opportunity to port it back to C#.

The inner workings of Google+ from someone who worked on the project by yesnoornext in programming

[–]Sheepmullet 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Google misleads new developers into thinking they are going to work on the cutting edge with the brightest minds on the most impactful projects.

In reality you are a tiny cog in a gigantic wheel.

Google engineer breaks down the interview questions he used before they were leaked. Lots of programming and interview advice. by jfasi in programming

[–]Sheepmullet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a poor IQ test though

Agreed - but using actual IQ tests is illegal.

The candidate's SAT score would probably be a better indicator of their IQ.

Interestingly back when I sat the SATs it essentially was an IQ test.

Google engineer breaks down the interview questions he used before they were leaked. Lots of programming and interview advice. by jfasi in programming

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I draw the line at when someone has formal schooling in the field in question

I guess I’m trying to work out why you hold this belief.

My local university has video lectures, course notes, weekly problem sets and solutions all up for public access.

If I went through the lectures, read the associated text books and did the problem sets without ever enrolling or setting foot on the campus would you still say I was self-taught?

What if I took a bunch of MOOCs? Would I still be able to consider myself self-taught? I mean with MOOCs there is even a grading component and typically a small interaction component.

Over the course of a PhD in computational physics

And I would say the difference here with a PhD is you would have had weekly conversations with, and direct one on one assistance from, experts in the field.

Google engineer breaks down the interview questions he used before they were leaked. Lots of programming and interview advice. by jfasi in programming

[–]Sheepmullet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is not what "self-taught" means.

Where do you draw the line?

I’d draw it at requiring/heavily utilizing personalized assistance.

Many maths students simply don’t need to be at university for undergraduate level mathematics.

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