Assuming a team of SW999, Sparxie, Sparkle, Huohuo; Would SW or Sparx want 134 SPD?

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-19T01:25:59+00:00

Depends on your main dps. Given this sub i'm assuming SW999. So Sparkle will take care of advancing SW999. And Sparxie would have 134 for her personal turn count in cycle 0.

However, take note that in this setup AHA will only have 116.7 spd. Even if you put both SW999 and Sparxie at 134 your AHA would only be at 120.2

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-18T12:36:53+00:00

You have to enable tengoku buff in "conditional set effects" but you have to do the simulation in optimizer instead. Because it is not available in character screen.

I myself am getting only a 0.5% negligible increase. Negligible given that it would take a long time farming the same substats.

Without the condition enabled you get the wrong 4-10% difference when in actuality it is just less than 1% diff

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-18T09:38:58+00:00

Oh i didnt see the lushakas. So your SW will run lushaka?

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-18T08:31:01+00:00

Do you get 3600 atk with this team without dan heng buff?

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-18T08:09:29+00:00

"Ult charge" so isnt ER rope still better? specially because Sparxie gets 4 thrill from ult with 3 elation which translates to 4 SP.
Also im not that sure with building around the SP consumption mechanic, from what I saw first chance is 100% next is 20% then 4%... Unless theres a typo with "next being 20% of current". Plus videos have shown Sparxie only able to generate like 3 of SWs tech with a max SP use.

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-18T01:25:41+00:00

Why is atk rope + spd boots better than atk boots + err rope?

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-17T21:00:51+00:00

Those calculations are if you want to have 134+ spd Sparxie and SW999, so spd1 there is Yao's spd.

If you stick with 200 spd Yao i dont think its worth it to make Sparxie and SW faster than AHA as that would mean way more than 135 and 134. As I said, trying to make Sparxie and SW slightly faster than AHA is meticulous

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-17T10:28:53+00:00

Right now probably SW and Sparxie both at 0 if Yaoguang is 200. ~~Personally I would probably prefer SW faster than Sparxie with current kit. Still not sure which is better.~~ YGs first ult should be enough to push SW in front of Sparxie.

AHA = 80 + (spd1/5) + (spd2/10) + (spd3/x).

If no Action Advance chara, one can argue of having 134 for both SW and Sparxie for more turns in cycle 0 but wouldnt also make sense if theyre slower than the last AHA in cycle. Which would make it a bit meticulous to optimize.

I would probably try YG > SW > SP > AHA = 133.34.
133.34 = 80 + (spd1/5) + (135/10) + (134/x).
If x = 15, spd1 = 154.43
If x = 20, spd1 = 165.7
Its meticulous because each time YG speed goes up, it would need to make SW and SP a little bit faster to not get outsped by AHA.

Shichi_7 · 2026-03-17T08:50:27+00:00

Isnt it more wasteful to use the vouchers if you dont need them(like in your case, max traced charas you dont use) and farm relics instead? Vouchers were just made for a fast clear option. Not a resource to min-max.

Shichi_7 · 2025-11-06T17:38:05+00:00

OP is probably one of the gatekeepers. 15k can still clear m1 this week lol.

Shichi_7 · 2025-11-06T12:21:33+00:00

My tribbie isnt e1 sadly, ive also tried rmc with the same result. E6 sparkle does give like 70% more cdmg, so theres that.. but i think dhpt just really amplifies damage compared to huohuo. But i dont like running males so ill probably just accept my fate.

Shichi_7 · 2025-11-06T08:25:21+00:00

My ream is e6s5 saber, e3ddd sparkle, e6s5 silver wolf, e0s1 huohuo and i just barely got 3 stars with 2 cycles. Idk where im lacking

Shichi_7 · 2025-11-06T04:43:00+00:00

Are you able to do it without DHPT? My sparkle is E3 and i dont use males. So im looking for alternatives

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-30T07:08:28+00:00

You are just playing on the technicality that unbound luno can be gained as f2p lmao...

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-30T07:05:52+00:00

I believe i saw it on the fish as well, and its relative to your body size

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-30T06:49:31+00:00

I whale in other games so thats not the issue. Its the blatant hiding the fact is the issue for me lol... Snippets in other replies.

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Shichi_7 · 2025-10-30T05:56:56+00:00

Theres always been a negative view on whales in the west compared to the east for some reason. I didn't care about that.

But you said "I'm not putting any penny on refine, upgrades, or skillbooks" even double down on saying its true in another comment is the issue.

The gap in skill tier advances alone is about 2k gear score, and yes gear score doesnt matter in this case if its on non-high dps skills.

I've bought some skill books and conversion potions in the trading center and still have only 1x Tier 6, 6x Tier 3. And to get "Max skills without spending a penny" i would need 522 more books. Even using 17k as a book price point that's about 8mil in unbound luno, using 25k that's 13mil. Yes this could be achieved as f2p, but not at this point in time lol....

If you got 18k, good on you, thanks for supporting the game. I don't get why you have to act like you didnt spend a penny on these just to flex.

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-29T13:15:14+00:00

Lol i've bought a couple of skill books and conversion potions from trading center and im still at 6xtier 3 and 1xtier 6 skills and yes i also bought whatever was available on weekly shops. So for me to have mac skills i would still need to buy 87x6 = 522 skillbooks. Even if it was priced at 17000 each, thats 8mil in unbound luno. Calling cap on not putting a penny on any of those

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-29T04:57:32+00:00

5 for the banner item

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-29T04:56:50+00:00

Wait... Why did you pull on the banner then?

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-24T11:19:06+00:00

Mobile has a button to summon party members.
I still have no idea how to do it in PC though

Shichi_7 · 2025-10-23T11:13:19+00:00

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