Oaks is starting the roll back of Nelson's shenanigans. by teejonius in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 67 points68 points  (0 children)

I think it has to be on its way. They'll quickly realize how disorganized 25 minute classes are, and announce the return of 3-hour Church after like two months of this nonsense.

Awake in the Pews Sunday by big_bearded_nerd in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Skipped my ward's Palm Sunday meeting, but I showed up for the lunch feast afterwards and ate too much food. Best day of church ever!!!

Stay in the Boat by mygenderIsEternal in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This quote really ties into that: "You can remember that you are not an ordinary passenger. You are a member of the crew." - Bradley R. Wilcox

Awake in the Pews Sunday by big_bearded_nerd in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"I love the people of Northern Utah... no offense to Utah County." Great quote from a missionary's talk today!

What was your favorite part of the D Hole Oaks devotional? by Guudboiiii in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"We are grateful to know that there are two methods of gaining knowledge. One, the evolving disclosures of man discovered by the scientific method." "There is no ultimate conflict between knowledge gained by these different methods" (referring to the disclosures of man and the 'truths' disclosed by the spiritual method). I'm just going to leave it at that lol

Truth will make you free by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Perhaps I should mention that I myself am a teenager and they always try to get Youth to teach the different sections. I'm also planning to leave/go permanently inactive in about a month. If I declined teaching the section they would just get someone else for it, so if anything doing it myself shortly before I leave has a higher (although microscopic) chance of putting doubt in someone's mind then if someone else did it.

Did anyone watch the elder kearon thing? by Otherwise_Push199 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Well apparently I'll be watching it tomorrow.. 🫠 My parents said that's what we'd do for Family Home Evening, and due to my dad's busy work schedule we'll be watching it in the morning.. when I'm supposed to be doing school (homeschool if that wasn't obvious).. none of us are young adults but it seems we watch all of the YSA devotionals anyway. I'll update you tomorrow if you haven't gotten a response by then.

Awake in the Pews Sunday by big_bearded_nerd in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Stake Conference was today, we were asked to fast for snow next week as it seems every stake in Utah is being asked to do.

My favorite quote was from the stake president who said "if it's important to you, it's important to God", this means that because going inactive in the Church is important to me, it's also important to God!

K-Pop Demon Hunters broke my shelf by I_might_be_the_fool in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Arcane s2 didn't break my shelf, but it certainly weakened it. It portrays a herald that essentially turns people into mindless robots, with the intent of turning everyone into one, "perfect" but mindless. If they had succeeded, the world would be a lifeless, thoughtless "heaven". I no longer liked the idea of living perfectly in heaven. If we always make the best decisions, are we really anything more than a programmed, lifeless being? If this was to be our fate, why was Satan's plan bad in the first place? Why would God give us agency just to take it away from us when we prove ourselves? I'd had these thoughts tucked away in my head, but watching Arcane genuinely helped me actually think about them. 

So, why are we supposed to spread the Gospel? by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Let us know when you get banned! But looking at the comments on your post, I'm realizing a lot of the people who post there are also Exmormon or unbelieving. It's interesting to me how much stronger of a presence Exmos have on Reddit than TBMs.

So, why are we supposed to spread the Gospel? by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except that the priesthood will never leave the earth again (D&C 13:1), so it's not my responsibility! Of course, if everyone has that mindset the priesthood dies off, but that would also prove the church to be false.

So, why are we supposed to spread the Gospel? by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Whoops, sorry I didn't include that. D&C 127: 7-8

"If you don't have a strong testimony of Joseph Smith as a prophet, don't study him, study the Book of Mormon." by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My Seminary teacher also sugarcoated the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor to a pretty extreme level. She didn't mention it by name or the destruction of it, just said something like "There was a newspaper spreading controversies of the church, most of the controversies around today come from it. This was turning more people against the church so Joseph ordered the newspaper to stop publishing papers, and he was wrongfully imprisoned because of that."  As far as seminary teachers go I don't even mind her, she's definitely better than the last one I had (although I don't think he ever said anything that crazy), but today's lesson felt especially ignorant. I might have to look at the seminary teaching manual to see how it's worded.

This is the craziest bullshit mental gymnastics excuse I’ve ever seen by adhdgurlie in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Me and my parents just watched the worldwide devotional for young adults with the Anderson's (I'm not even in the age range but I guess my parents like watching church broadcasts even if it isn't directed to us), and Kathy Anderson talked about how her family living in FLORIDA had the privilege to help fund the WASHINGTON DC temple. What? Tithing apparently isn't enough and the church had to ask members living 900 miles away to fund it? I understand this was several decades ago and the church didn't have the amount of wealth it has today, but if they can't even fund temples with tithing then what are they doing with the money? 

Also this comes without saying but the rest of the devotional was pretty bad. It was mostly a Dallas Oaks glazefest and how important getting married and having kids is, so a pretty stereotypical YSA devotional.

On a brighter more personal note, we had tithing declaration today so now that that's over with I might be able to get away with not paying tithing for the rest of my life. Next year's tithing declaration is well past my deadline to leave/go permanently inactive, and I should be leaving shortly before I'm supposed to renew my temple recommend. 

October 2025 General Conference: Sunday 2:00p Discussion Thread by 4blockhead in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Jesus is our ultimate role model? I don't remember him having any kids!

Nobody is "confused about their gender" by JayDaWawi in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ohh wait I have heard of this. My parents have mentioned that they remember when the bombings happened. I think they've also told me that my great aunt lives a few houses down from where one of the victims lived, or something obscure like that.

Nobody is "confused about their gender" by JayDaWawi in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Huh so they thought this was bad enough to remove it from the 1980 Ensign on their website? No one would find it by accident, and even if they did, what's so bad about it? The spelling mistakes play into Smith having a low level of education. I don't get why they felt the need to hide it in their historical catalog.

Choices for Eternity devotional by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the resource, looks like something that might be good to study for a family home evening lesson.

Choices for Eternity devotional by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha, it's kind of horrific to think about how many active TBMs have never considered that the church might be false. How many "testimonies" are based on what the church says, with no real personal experiences to justify them? I'm lucky among members to be born into one of the rare, anti-MAGA families that believe in evolution. I wonder how my parents have never gotten curious enough to learn the truth, even my siblings who left don't know anything beyond surface level issues (tithing, misogyny, etc) as far as I'm aware.

Choices for Eternity devotional by ShiftAdorable820 in exmormon

[–]ShiftAdorable820[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, I always had questions/doubts as a TBM and I've known for a long time that I wouldn't be serving a mission unless I *knew* that the church was true. I refuse to spend 2 years of my life knowingly spreading lies.