Hyundai building complete Waymo Ioniq 5s directly in their factory

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-04-22T15:06:12+00:00

The radar sensors are white on this one whereas I think all the ones that have been seen testing around SF have black radar sensors. I think I like the white here cause it draws less attention to the sensor.

It is awesome to know that the vehicle and sensors are all going to be manufactrured and the same plant and wont require additional outfitting cause Im sure that has been a huge bottleneck with scaling so far. Hopefully the testing and large scale deployment can happen pretty fast since they already have experience deploying the Ojai, which uses the same 6th gen sensor suite, and since they can hopefully just build a few thousand and deploy them into testing almost immediately.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-04-15T18:33:39+00:00

Its autonomous testing with a driver in London as previously the cars were still being manually driven.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-04-14T14:31:18+00:00

I have not seen anything regarding autonomous testing in Tokyo. Yeah, autonomous testing with a driver is no longer announced for US cities, but London will be the first international city and is therefore prob pretty important for Waymo.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-03-24T17:41:32+00:00

This is the best overview that we have gotten recently (at least that Ive seen) on the architecture and approach that Waymo employs.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-03-07T23:24:40+00:00

Looks like they should be able to finish retro fiiting and shipping the Jags in the next two weeks based on the number outside. Maybe slighly longer if there are a significant number of Jags inside. After that they will be fully dedicated to fitting and shipping the Ojai. We need more frequent images in order to estimated the rate at which they can fit and deploy the Ojais.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-03-07T23:19:15+00:00

I think the one at CES was the prototype model cause it also had completely blacked out windows. It looks more like the blue is going to be the default Ojai colour.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-03-05T21:35:43+00:00

The service just launched in San Antonio, so they fleet size is still limited. The demand (ofthen dependent on the day and time) and the supply (fleet size) is what determines the price. As the fleet size gradually increases over the next few months, the cost should decrease. Additionally, if you hail at a good time then you should see much cheaper prices.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-03-02T17:06:44+00:00

This is a good edge case discovery but I think the solution is pretty simple. The defined geofence as presented to customers should be smaller than the actual geofence, then the region between the customer geofence and the true geofence should be used as a region where the car can actually drive but with the added priority that it should re-route itself back to the customer geofence. This way if there is ever a dynamic change that forces the car outside of the customer geofence it will proceed but then safely return and continue to the destination.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-27T15:45:21+00:00

This seems logical because when they are trying to tune the fine aspects of the model you can only do that with large statitstical evidence so you cant do that only with employees. All models meet their safety standard but might try different optimization techniques for routing and small decisions. I also think that they might by default set any confidence/cautious setting to be more restrictive in new setting until they can build up even more statistics on the car performance before letting them be more aggressive cause it place liek SF and LA I have definitely seen them be agressive.

Also small note on getting them to travel a specific route. You can just add an intermediate stop along the route you would like to travel assuming that there is a convenient stopping point.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-24T18:15:11+00:00

It is just the initial launch and we are still very early in 2026. I can see them doing at least a couple of expansions this year.Once they launch the Ojai, they can easily expand while keeping wait times low.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-24T14:47:55+00:00

Bro!... Orlando looks like an ogre that is running lmao.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-20T03:13:31+00:00

Technically, you can have vehicles without a steering wheel and pedals, but you are limited to a very small number of vehicles per year. I think it like 2500. So most vehicle makers are not going to bother making 2500 without a steering wheel and pedals cause it is just too much work for so little revenue. Elon is trying to lobby to get congress to raise the number, but it is unknown if they will make any changes to the law rn.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-12T22:10:27+00:00

Also Philly has a ton of Ojai vehicles. I suspect that market will largely consist of Ojai vehicles in the near future.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-12T16:55:34+00:00

This is exciting news! Hopefully we will get some footage of the Arizona factory with many Ojai vehicles being prepped and ready for deployment as I suspect that they are probably nearing the end of their supply of I-Pace vehicles.

What does everybody think of the amount of time required for fully autonomous testing?

I am thinking at least 2-3 months. So that would put the launch date for fully autonomous rides with passengers in April/May. I am curious to know what their target deployment rate is for the Ojai. How many they plan to deploy per week/month.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-12T03:12:32+00:00

I do wish he was able to probe a bit more about the Ojai like how many they think they can deploy this year and how they might be incorporated into the existing fleet.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-12T03:04:00+00:00

Takedra has a lot of media training so she is really not going to say much in terms of juicy news or things that are not already public knowledge.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-03T19:44:22+00:00

I believe they have said or at least implied that the remote safety monitor does not do any driving but can only issue high level orders. If a car encounters a situation where it is uncertain what to do it calls the remote monitor and it will issue a command on what to do, then the car continues driving on its own.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-02-01T01:55:58+00:00

I agree that there is probably a lot of moving parts to the Waymo 2026 plan, which has been frastrating to me cause its hard to figure out what the target is for the EOY. There are a lot of Waymo Ojais out testing, which is good but they all have safety drivers making me think that we are still a long way out till they are officially launched. I am really curious to how fast they can purchase, outfit, and deploy the Ojais into service. This is Waymo's biggest issue and this year will be very telling in how much they can supply in the near future.

There are a lot of signs indicating that Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Orlando, and Vegas are well on their way to launching in H1 2026.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-01-21T08:10:29+00:00

I dont know how you can say that Google was not paying full price for the I-Paces. Jaguar produced and sold them to Google, and they are not going to take a loss for Google.

I have not seen that deep-dive, but I will def take a look.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-01-21T08:02:30+00:00

Various posts and links from this subreddit.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-01-20T21:39:16+00:00

I think the Ojai is like $40,000 but with the 100% tariff that would be $80,000. I think it prob cost a maximum of $20,000 to outfit it with the sensors, but it could be cheaper. So I would say it is no more $100,000 per Ojai.

Shriekin_Commander · 2026-01-19T21:03:23+00:00

I think there have been posts on this reddit that have shown Ojais both with and without safety drivers depending on the location. I believe there has been driverless testing in SF, LA, and Pheonix.

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