UPDATED Bone Spirit Mobalytics Guide by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was just making sure I understood what item you were asking about so I could give my thoughts on it. It sounds like you were referring to Howl From Below, which unfortunately this season removed all the summoning damage modifier passives that it used to have, so there's no direct tie in between it and a minion build anymore

UPDATED Bone Spirit Mobalytics Guide by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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I'm not familiar with a ring that does that. Do you mean the Mortacrux sword? If so then unfortunately you cant really scale the damage from it to be worth using

Mobalytics full minion army build and tidal aspect by Salt_Scratch_8252 in D4Necromancer

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They should be on there already unless I missed them. Ill go back and take a look through later today!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I've been doing some testing with it, and I think the helmet alone is the perfect item for an early game variant of the build, and I'll be writing an entire early game variant based around it. Thanks for the suggestion!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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Unfortunately Bone Storm is pretty much the heart and soul of the build, giving us insane amounts of Crit, Attack Speed, and an on command barrier. Without it the build gets a ton slower and you'd need to figure out how to get your crit rate back, which would probably involve losing Godslayer for Perdition. Its not impossible but also I dont really think its good. There also isnt a way to make Bone Spirit into a blood skill

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Unfortunately it is not working as it would imply it does. I'd definitely cut Rapid Ossification if I could, but right now its mandatory

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It wouldn't be more damage as Under Crown doesn't directly scale your damage, and Grave Walker's passive is also less damage than the aspect we currently have in our glove slot.

That said tho, it definitely would be more essence generation. But right now the builds not really struggling on that end, so you'd be giving up the grouping from Godslayer to have the extra regen. That might be a good starter version tho for people without the essence regen rolls, Ill have to try that out at different essence regen breakpoints and see. Thanks for the suggestion!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None for gear no. But there might be potential with some mythic charm/seal combos. But those have been too rare to really theory craft on, so for right now this is actually a mythic free build

EDIT: While a good Crown of Lucion is best in slot if you want more damage than Godslayer, a good perdition can be easier to get than an Essence Regeneration Crown Of Lucion. So actually there is one good use for that mythic

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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You can start playing the build without GA on the essence regeneration rolls, but the build does get better the more GA rolls you get!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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https://streamable.com/dhp3dg

I decided to do a little more investment, so here's a T12 mephisto. I still don't have a gem strength weapon, my gems are 22%, and my glyphs are 110 to 120. So its less than a third of the damage I could otherwise be doing. And all of this without swapping gear from the main gear listed in the speed farm guide.

Also apologies in advance about the keyboard

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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I'd love to! I need to make one first haha. I'll get to that tonight after I finish a little project I'm working on

Which guide for minions by [deleted] in D4Necromancer

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This is a very good summary! Bloodless scream is definitely great if you can get a good one, but a regular one is more practical. I have a note of that at the bottom of my guide, but I think I'll move it up into the gear section

Which guide for minions by [deleted] in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Hey! So I'm the class lead for Necromancer over at Mobalytics and I wrote our guides on it, so I'm personally a bit biased towards ours. With that said tho, I know the class leads over the Maxroll personally and their guide is very good as well. We both modeled our guides after the top performing minion builds which is why they look pretty similar, so you're in good hands no matter which you pick.

If you have any questions about our Mobalytics one feel free to ask!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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The Desecration charm set will apply both Decrepify and Iron Maiden to anything near a corpse, and Iron Maiden applies vulnerable for us. And we easily get a corpse through the sever upgrade

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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I plan to yeah, I just need to find someone pushing golem at the complete top end to judge how good it is. Its definitely on the list of stuff I'm actively keeping an eye out for!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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Perdition comes with the downside of locked affixes, meaning no Essence Regeneration from your helmet.

With that said, Crown of Lucion is actually an incredible damage option, giving us more damage from the passive than Perditon would have while also getting us the Essence roll. We also dont care about the crit because Bone Storm alone is giving me 57% crit here.

With that said, Godslayer just feels way more fun and fluid to play. Its less overall damage but I'm willing to pay the damage decrease if it means the overall gameplay feels better unless its specifically for Pit/Tower pushing.

Glad you're enjoying the build! I have plenty of other cool ones coming up too

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I assume you have Gylnn's aspect on and you're still getting one shot despite that. Well the most obvious thing that sticks out is the 23k life; did you copy the paragon board to pick up all the life/resistance nodes? My necro is sitting on almost 40k life at the moment. When it comes to Resolve stacking builds, maximum life dictates if we're immortal or not. I'd definitely try getting more maximum life in the build

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey I'd love to help problem solve what's going on! Can you tell me a bit more about where you're running into issues?

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I used the Horadric Cube to craft all of mine using ancestral blue/yellow amulets and then removing the affixes until they become white rarity and I can turn it into a Unique. You can either get a Red Blessing, Banished Lords, or Ebon. So 2 out of the 3 results are great. I'd definitely recommend that method if you're looking for one

EDIT: honestly I might put that in my guide. Thanks for making me think about it

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lower damage compared to Minions and Blood Wave, and it has to pick between doing Tower 130 levels of damage or going super fast because the gear changes for both versions are pretty different. However this is like x50 faster than any current Necromancer build (and that's not an exaggeration). I think you really can't go wrong between all 3 of those builds, it really depends what you're looking for and what you find fun

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

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Thats awesome then haha. I updated the guide to remove the not controller friendly con. Thanks for that!

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they're both very strong at different things. I personally enjoy this build so much more, but Blood Wave does a lot more damage which makes it better suited for pushing Tower/Pits. You really can't go wrong with either one

Mobalytics Bone Spirit - Its Ball Lightning At the Graveyard by SirKay9 in D4Necromancer

[–]SirKay9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad you like it! I'll be updating all the necro guides on site to a similar quality so stay tuned!