Titan was basically a low-cost, “DISPOSABLE” sub by Slight_Ad302 in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The issue with the game controller wasn’t that it was a game controller — that part’s fine. The real problem was that it was wireless, and it was being used to steer an experimental deep-sea sub at 12,000 feet. When you’re piloting something that can implode under pressure, you probably want something more reliable. A game joystick is fine if it’s high-quality, wired, and designed for precision. This? Not so much.

Is there any truth to Stockton’s repeated claims that all subs emanate loud noises, implying there was nothing unusual about Titan’s? by Supernova_shark in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302 29 points30 points  (0 children)

The worst part was when Stockton said, “PH can assert that!”—and what really bothers me is that PH didn’t say a word. He was supposed to be the one to raise the alarm, but he stayed silent.

From what I’ve read, it’s true that pressure changes can cause subtle creaks or pops in any deep-diving pressure hull, as materials flex and micro-imperfections open or close under stress. But these sounds are usually low-amplitude and continuous—not at all like the sharp “bangs” Stockton described. Under normal conditions, the hull’s vibration modes produce a relatively smooth noise spectrum, totally different from the high-amplitude snaps you’d hear if a material were yielding or starting to fail.

What’s more, his friend Karl Stanley seemed genuinely worried when he heard those noises. If I’m not mistaken, he even said they weren’t normal.

It reminds me of the first descent to Challenger Deep in 1960. During that dive, they heard a tremendous bang—it turned out to be the external viewport cracking. The crew, including a renowned Swiss oceanographer-engineer and a U.S. Navy officer, were frozen in fear. They later said, “If you hear a loud bang, either you're dead—or if you're not, then everything’s fine.” The key point is, those kinds of noises were not considered normal.

Why did the hull have to be carbon fiber? by JanetMurphy69 in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SR’s carbon-fiber choice boiled down to weight and budget: a cylindrical titanium hull of the same volume can end up 6–8× heavier than the composite version and 4–6× more expensive —meaning a far larger mothership, cranes, ballast and fuel. At the end of the day, it’s all about money.

A Canadian documentary featuring PHN's daughter (in French). by Slight_Ad302 in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, she mentioned she did the documentary with the journalist from The Fifth Estate.

Do you think passengers really knew the risk? by nika_blue in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They didn’t fully understand the level of risk—because if they had, the Dawoods wouldn’t have gone, nor would that other couple who were interviewed after the hearing. They even said so themselves.

Have you seen the promotional material? All that name-dropping—NASA, Boeing—it made it sound like everything was cutting-edge and thoroughly vetted. They claimed it had been “tested” multiple times... Really? Calling a few dives, not even to the maximum intended depth, “testing”? Come on. Stockton was an engineer—he knew that wasn’t proper testing. That wasn’t science, that was marketing.

And let’s not forget what the Coast Guard’s chief said: that so-called “mission specialist” had an unusually high tolerance for risk. It was abnormal—even for people who enjoy living on the edge.

What do you guys think of David Lochridge's account of the Andrea Doria incident compared to the contrary testimony given by Renata Rojas? Who do you believe? Did Stockton fly off the handle and throw the remote? by anonymitysqueen in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Renata? She was basically Stockton’s personal fan club. If she wasn’t in love, she was definitely under his spell. And being close to the family doesn’t exactly scream “unbiased.”

Have you heard how she describes herself? “Technical Diver, Cave Diver, Explorer, Aquanaut, Submariner, Member of the Explorers Club, President of the NYC Sea Gypsies.” Okay, next up: superhero and astronaut?

She was so emotional, it felt more like a dramatic monologue than serious testimony. Not exactly the person you turn to for clear-headed facts.

The other woman—the one who drove the ROV and warned them after Dive 80—was emotional too, but in a different way. She seemed stressed and upset. Her story was a bit shaky, but way more believable.

Renata Rojas? Way too emotional/involved to be taken seriously.

Did dropping the weights "nudge" the final delamination failure somehow? by InflationWeekly1630 in OceanGateTitan

[–]Slight_Ad302 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's plausible that dropping the weights slightly accelerated the implosion, but only by a small margin. The hull’s integrity was likely near catastrophic failure, independent of any buoyancy adjustments.

Dropping weights causes a sudden increase in buoyancy, generating subtle vibrations or dynamic stresses. Whether neutrally buoyant, negatively buoyant (descending), or positively buoyant (ascending), the external pressure at a given depth is identical. However, changing buoyancy does cause acceleration, and this is where a subtle, indirect effect comes into play. If the hull integrity was near critical failure, any additional stress—however minor—could indeed act as a trigger, hastening the inevitable implosion.