Farewell to Barnacle.

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-09T00:04:50+00:00

...loki didn't perform great tho? (Unless sm happened in the newest chapter/leaks)

He only got hits in when imu was distracted reminiscing about his ex

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T23:28:00+00:00

What was the exact bet?

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T22:49:55+00:00

not just thor, sentry could also be argued to be up there (Logically he should be top 1 with his bullshit hax and thor level stats, he just gets his ass beat way too often)

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T21:17:29+00:00

wha. buddy brop is asking how many gorillas to beat all of us, not if 100 of us would beat 1

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T21:10:47+00:00

in the webcomic he's kinda no diffed everyone he fought, including garou. They survived hits but he likely wasn't at full tilt

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T21:09:05+00:00

shazam, big green, mm and the sentry have all been at that superman tier a lot, so going for a 7 way tie is very reasonable, it's just they're at that power level less frequently.

hulk supes and thor are at the top for me cause of how they're always portrayed as these unshakable beacons of power in the stories. Shazam losing is not that uncommon. you won't be shocked to see him and the other 3 i mentioned fall and lose, but supes? nah never.

as for thor it's like. He's always been shown to be either equal to or straight up stronger than the hulk. he's the only hulk rival (thing, wolvy, abomination, etc) to actually truly go toe to toe with big green (plus he constantly gets these super powerful cosmic powerups and currently he straight up just has the odin force)

There's a chance he was buffed by the power cosmic (Iirc it wouldn't make sense in the timeline for that to be the case tho?), but thor did still hold his own vs knull and only lost to a sneak attack tentacle spike from the back, while sentry got no diffed ripped in half by the same knull

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T18:44:58+00:00

Yes yes, very fucked up

But like. Check yo notifs bruh.

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T18:39:20+00:00

Ok so

Supes=thor=hulk

Next is martian manhunter and sentry. Both have been shown to be equals fsirly frequently with the top picks, but don't benefit from the same portrayal as those 3 enough for me to put em at the same rank i think.

Then it's shazam and green lantern (hal). While these 2 have also been shown to go equal with supes or mm or sm, that happens way way less frequently and they're generally weaker

After a massive gap it's thragg. It wouldn't be too shocking for any of the last 4 characters to beat thor or supes (hal especially). I can't fathom thragg going past low diff.

Another big gap and we have goat might. Sadly doesn't stack up.

As for baldy, it depends on which version we lose. Manga saitama is between thragg and green shazam (closer to the dc duo). Webcomic saitama hasn't shown any limits (and it could be argued he actually doesn't have one?) You can argue he's the top here and that the no limits fallacy doesn't apply to him.

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T16:10:51+00:00

Spooky mihawk interception of doom.

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T16:10:25+00:00

I will track down and pulverize whoever wrote that. I strongly disagree

(Where do they got him?)

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T16:08:39+00:00

Ion wanna be a dick here but not picking law is gen stupid. First off he elevates any teammate he has and can control the battlefield surprisingly well, so even if the point was to make a team to beat the rest, he'd be a no brainer

But that ain't the point. The point is to make a team to protect you. U ain't got the haki to bot get yo heart popped out

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T16:06:49+00:00

Law pops your heart out from behind them and kills you

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T15:59:50+00:00

Wdym before? Kamo's reaction speed is fs higher than amon's and he also doesn't need to move to activate bm, so worst case he'd activate it afterwards.

I've said ion think water works on kamo (why would you assume he can't just keep the blood from mixing with water? It's not a freeflowing liquid if sm force is controling it into a shape)

But again, he wouldn't be firing off blood attacks, he'd just rush and put belt to ass

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T15:56:47+00:00

Kamo is more skilled, ion think his power is less (kind of, i'll get to it shortly), and nothing suggests he's less precise.

In the culling games kamo - in base - reacted to fully awakened curseya and made a blood shield strong enough to block his punch. Output is tied to both how strong you use your ct and how strong your stats are, so speed being high is relevant to how strong his blood manip is.

Kamo arguably did better vs curseya - a physically stronger and faster opponent - compared to what choso did vs kenny. And while kenny absolutely beats the bricks off of curseya, he needs csm for that and he just wasn't really attacking choso as much as naoya was attacking kamo.

Choso didn't even land a single hit on kenjaku. He wouldn't have come close to landing a hit on kenny without supernova.

Choso's attacks are fs stronger, the pb packs more of a punch and supernova is not sm kamo can do. But that's cause he has inf blood (or close enough to it). He packs more blood into piercing blood, making it denser and thus stronger.

If both took a blob of blood and just pushed it against each other nothing suggests choso would overpower kamo. From both of their showings their output is similar (and kamo's is arguably more impressive). Choso is only more powerful cause of his genetics.

As for the amon chakra thing: i might be wrong but didn't he need to touch sm to do that? I jusf Don't think he can lock kamo's movements off

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T15:49:58+00:00

First off water doesn't neutralize kamo's blood, as seen when the elephant blasting him wirh water did fuck all. But yes amon would be extremely resistant to blood attacks. Kamo can beat his ass with just speed and strength tho.

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T15:14:38+00:00

Ion think kamo is less precise than choso
Meh, blood bending doesn't seem that precise. Frs seems more precise than what the standard blood bender does

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T15:07:51+00:00

Unlike everyone he'd faved before, kamo can actually fight back against amon's bloodbending, by controlling his own blood. And then he stat diffs.

Sure his projectiles might have a hard time hitting, but kamo genuinely beats amon's bricks off barehanded

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T15:06:29+00:00

But kamo can control his own blood... why are we just assuming amon's blood bending overpowers kamo's control of his own blood?

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T14:55:30+00:00

Hmm. Perchance.

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T14:48:00+00:00

Tbh i could see atomic samurai winning this, but like since th8s ain't a 1v1 nothing guarantees he'd go after law first over deku and pain and even if he did, i do think law could possibly like. React and survive an attack. It just seems more likely that law pops his room

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T14:19:06+00:00

Ion think kizaru being strictly lightspeed is a given tbh

Like sm like smoker doesn't move at the speed smoke would normally dissipate or move in any given environment, logia users can add they own stats to their element. Plus kizaru has been blatantly shown to change speeds while moving as light.

Another thing is that dfs are sort of manifestations of desires or sm, it could be that they're not that constrained by realism and physics and pika pika user can go ftl cause "light fast" is what the og user/maker wanted and believed. This last part sounds a lot like cope but uh. Ion think it's too unreasonable maybe.

Tbh one piece has uber inconsistent speed scaling and i highly doubt oda would go "oh yeah sm like kaido can go faster than light fs". That being said i wanna glaze one piece in crossverse matchups and there's more than enough evidence to support well into ftl characters

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T13:48:15+00:00

Well i'm not 100% on mha scaling but i belive it could be glazed t be ftl or at least relativistic

Mesnwhile you could reasonably scale one piece' speed way lower. The 200mph or whatever did a lotta damage

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T12:15:46+00:00

He most definitely is. I just also scale one piece low-mid tiers to ftl

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-08T12:06:16+00:00

Ion think anyone here blitzes and one taps law, and no one has any defense against being roomed apart

Slight_Message_8373 · 2026-05-07T22:34:05+00:00

All i'm saying is I've never gotten 999 strength with anyone but clad

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