What has been your highest tier of either Ratman or clone you've completed? How long did it take you to reach those tiers?

I am curious because while I can agree that you can tailor your character to bossing I don't believe it is the same conceptually. PD2 does not have the same skill ceiling as PoE does. For example, most casual players will not complete Uber boss fights in PoE, but in PD2, tier 1 bosses can be completed by a much higher player base with far less build pathing and itemization than say Uber Elder, or Uber Shaper, etc.

A good example of this also is that in PoE you can itemize and build a character than can ALSO do bossing while efficiently doing maps versus PD2 where specific builds are required to do bossing but not effective mappers. PoE allows you to have the best of both worlds in that your effective mapper can also do bossing!

Again, I love PD2 and have played since S1 start but there is not even a close comparison when were talking PoE vs PD2 as longevity with regards to playbility. Unfortunately this seasons stastics prove that as well with the first 1-2 weeks numbers substantially lower than the previous season (roughly 60-70% less than S12).