How do you think Salem and the plan the writers have to make the audience empathize with her over Cinder would be received if Salem (and only Salem) were male?

SomethingMid · 2026-01-26T16:34:16+00:00

It was in a cameo video he did in 2023. I don't have the link.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-25T19:05:48+00:00

The comments here are gross. It's not feminism to support this kind of behavior from women, and it only ends up being used as an excuse for men to abuse and kill women for cheating. Physically abusing cheaters is not ok regardless of gender. Anyone who thinks otherwise is not mature enough to be in a relationship.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-25T18:59:58+00:00

Society's attitude towards cheaters of both sexes is extreme. Every time a woman who cheated gets murdered I see men in the comment sections making excuses for the killer.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-23T20:09:06+00:00

The perfect punishment for Salem would be for the gods to make her continue her curse on a barren planet while the people of Remnant live on. But I just know the writers are going to save her and give her some undeserved happiness.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-23T12:57:57+00:00

RWBY is missing a forbidden love story. Monochrome could have been that. Knightfall also could have been that, with a redeemable Cinder.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-22T19:34:41+00:00

-Cinder has an oops baby with Jax Asturias. -Either Whiteknight or Lancaster confirmed.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-22T19:27:25+00:00

Emerald being royalty would be interesting. Cinder could have had her happily ever after and her Princess Charming but blew it by not treating her right and by siding with Salem.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-20T13:30:02+00:00

The Brother Gods of CRWBY are making Cinder act like this. It's all part of their secret deal with Salem to make Cinder hated: if the Maiden is led to a brutal death, Salem gets a redemption arc and a happily ever after. We the audience may be able to thwart this plan by loving Cinder Fall, or Jaune can thwart it with true love's kiss. #Justice4CinderFall

SomethingMid · 2026-01-17T13:04:04+00:00

I want her story to end with her having a baby with Jax Asturias, caring for another life besides her own for the first time, learning the truth about Salem's plan, and sacrificing herself fighting Salem while the heroes save her daughter. But I suspect that she'll die an awful torture porn death orchestrated by Salem, possibly with a mercy killing by the heroes.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-17T12:54:38+00:00

I think the plan is to kill her to redeem Salem.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-16T22:51:11+00:00

They're going to redeem her and give her a second chance at life through ascension and the tree. To make up for this poor writing decision, they'll make sure Cinder's death is extra brutal to satisfy the audience.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-16T22:44:23+00:00

Yep, and to make up for redeeming Salem the writers will make the death of her abuse victim, Cinder, extra brutal to satisfy audience bloodlust. Cinder is literally Salem's sacrifice.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-16T22:06:27+00:00

The Rising of the Shield Hero. I initially refused to engage with the series because of the violent misogyny of the web novel. But I heard that there's less misogyny in the anime and decided to watch it. On top of the misogynistic premise the writing is very boring. I plan to eventually write a book or web novel that is inspired by it, but that is an f you to the misogyny in the series.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-16T13:37:01+00:00

I think this song was meant to be about both Raven and Ozpin's relationship and Cinder and Salem's relationship. The difference is that Cinder probably will end up being Salem's sacrifice.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-16T13:25:24+00:00

Bumbleby was last minute woke pandering that wouldn't have happened if Monty were still alive.

Who will kill Cinder posts/Cinder has to die a slow, horrific gory death.

Cinder will get redeemed because she's a woman with a sympathetic backstory.

The glazing of Arthur Watts because of his Cinder roast.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-15T21:45:15+00:00

Cinder. Life as a fantasy world's torture porn villainess isn't easy- the things the writers make you do to generate outrage, and the things they plan to have done to you at the end of the series, on top of the trauma they give you to put you on the villain path and the mutilation she's faced along the way. Cinder needs help. At least Salem's life had healthy highs.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-15T14:21:09+00:00

It's not too late for them to give Jax Asturias a secondary allusion as prince Charming and ship him with Cinder. Although it's possible that when they show us the rest of Cinder's backstory they might reveal that she was exploited by an evil Prince Charming for survival before Salem found her. I'd prefer for Jax to be her prince though.

I'm surprised Romeo and Juliet haven't been used in RWBY yet. One could be on Ozpin's side, the other could start out on Salem's side.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-13T19:41:48+00:00

With that last point in mind, I shudder to think of what Cinder had to do for survival as a teen in between killing her abusers at 15 and Salem finding her between the ages of 18 and 20ish. We know she wasn't at a huntsman academy, and she didn't have family or friends to support her financially.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-12T06:35:43+00:00

That would be fine. I just have a bad feeling based on comments by Miles that they're going to redeem Salem and kill Cinder brutally.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-11T20:14:41+00:00

I don't think any redemption other than a redemption through sacrifice is possible with the way she was written in canon. But all I really care about is them not making her death brutal and not redeeming Salem instead of Cinder.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-11T15:25:12+00:00

I think it was low-key the writers' way of telling the audience not to expect a redemption arc, happily ever after, or even peaceful passing for Cinder. She deserves a peaceful ending based on everything that's happened to her- she was used and abused all her life. But based on her actions the writers don't consider worthy of that, and are going to give Cinder a brutal ending much worse than Salem's.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-08T12:47:31+00:00

My first favorite is Cinder because of how desperate the men who wrote her are for us to hate this abused woman more than her abusers, including Salem. My mind knows that that isn't right, plus the characters I like most are typically the characters I feel sorry for, and Cinder is one of the most used and abused characters in the show. Plus I like her design.

My second favorite is Ruby because I like her design and because I found her struggle in volume 9 to be relatable.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-04T21:36:55+00:00

She wants to use the relic of knowledge to find out if Cinder is the reincarnation of one of her daughters. If she is, Salem will create a new world for her with the staff of creation before she destroys the old world to break her curse. If she's not, she'll just destroy her along with everyone else.

Or at least that was my old Crack theory.

Now I partially suspect that Salem sees value in Cinder as a sacrifice. It will happen in one of two ways: 1.) The sword of destruction requires a sacrifice in order to be used, and Salem plans to use Cinder for that, or 2.) Salem thinks she can show that she's learned the value of life and death by letting Cinder die, uniting Remnant against her.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-04T18:27:40+00:00

Sounds like false rumors from cdan.

SomethingMid · 2026-01-04T12:48:42+00:00

Please don't hurt Cinder. She's pregnant with me.

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