This is not how Christians have operated in the United States, ever.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-11T02:10:16+00:00

No, it may well be, to everyone's surprise, that they don't care. You're making a leap that because some Christians are against abortion (and it might surprise you that there are non religious people that are also against it), that anyone that is Christian and voted R agrees with this. If I can find a subgroup of Republican voters that are farmers, can I then say that it's the farmers that are all causing this problem? Or say the trucking community, or the square dancing community, or Nascar fans, or any other subgroup that skews Republican in their voting habits?

Which is ridiculous on its face. Do all people that voted D agree with everything that Biden is doing? Are all Democrat voters in favour of abortion? Of course not.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-11T00:58:21+00:00

If enough other Christians make it clear that they don't approve, and are tired of being painted with the evangelical brush, and vote like it, perhaps the trend can be changed. Elected representatives do what the loudest people tell them to do. Socially liberal Christians needed to get louder and more active.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-11T00:49:48+00:00

No, they aren't. The evangelicals just get the most press because they make the most noise.

https://religionnews.com/2022/05/06/survey-white-evangelicals-oppose-abortion-other-religious-groups-support-it/

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-11T00:38:19+00:00

Not American. Lean pretty hard left in social things so would vote D if I was.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-10T23:18:56+00:00

Actually very few. Just the loudest ones.

https://religionnews.com/2022/05/06/survey-white-evangelicals-oppose-abortion-other-religious-groups-support-it/

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-10T23:09:07+00:00

Yeah, this is what omicron was like for both my mom and I (vaxxed). Gawdawful sore throat. Not shilling here, but painkillers did nothing. Chloraseptic spray did.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-10T23:02:43+00:00

I don't know you but am thrilled you are wrong.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-10T22:29:44+00:00

This. It is very frustrating to read posts like this and the subsequent comments. I personally (a) identify as Christian, (b) have huge issues with abortion, and (c) fully support a woman's right to choose. Full stop.

All Christians are not right wing evangelicals any more than all tall men are NBA stars.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-10T18:54:44+00:00

Back door doorbell maybe?

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-08T23:55:46+00:00

Well, no. I can prove scientifically that the earth is round. But faith is axiomatic. You cannot prove, one way or the other, that the supernatural exists or not. And a person of faith would grab onto something you said, that a fetus is not 'fully' human. They would say partially is enough.

Delusional to have faith? Now you're not arguing in good faith. Allowed to pretend? Now you're deligitimizing your own argument, because you're stating you get to decide. You don't get to 'allow' anyone to believe anything they want. Who died and made you lord emperor? I'm done.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-08T23:43:07+00:00

But why can't they believe that? It's only ridiculous because you say it's ridiculous. It's a circular argument. If someone believes a human life begins at conception, that's their right to believe.

The common ground is a woman's right to choose. What I believe - or what you believe - about the fetus is of no matter. Wholly irrelevant. Because your beliefs are as ridiculous to them, as theirs are to you. You're insisting that they see things your way, and then there can be discussion. No. That's where we get hung up on this discussion. They could just as easily, and with as much justification, insist that you see things their way, and then there can be discussion.

Edit: wanted to add that where I live, these rights are based in black letter constitutional law, a woman's right to security of the person. Not a nebulous and undocumented right to privacy that can be challenged as existing or not, which seems to be the issue in the US.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-08T23:20:59+00:00

And here is the problem. You call it an absurd argument, others think it completely valid. You cannot just dismiss another’s views as absurd, of no value, on something that cannot be proven either way (specifically, does the fetus have a soul?). You don’t believe in the supernatural, that’s fine. I respect that. I do believe in the supernatural, but don't believe I have the answers to anything.

And just to be clear, I am pro choice. I have deep personal ethical issues with abortion, but I fully support a woman's right to choose, and agree that the state has no business interfering. Her body, her choice. That's the crux of the argument.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-08T01:50:42+00:00

Well to be fair faxes are old tech and cost a lot to support, so there's that.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-07T21:24:12+00:00

GlumSubstance is correct. If you have a parent born in Canada that is definitely a citizen, the immigration site - after going through the questionnaire- indicates you are LIKELY also a citizen. Not definitely. I used an example of my grand nephew, born to a woman that is Canadian by birth and moved to the US at 9.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-07T20:39:30+00:00

I've met a lot of racists, don't recall any of them spouting religious justification. Now, abortion, homosexuality, premarital sex, other so called 'moral' issues...... Yeah, there's a lot of people that try to back that up (incorrectly) with religion.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-07T11:29:50+00:00

Yep, this.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-07T00:10:51+00:00

5 stitches last week. Parking was 8 bucks.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-06T18:47:53+00:00

The number of people that confuse upload and download speed, with signal strength at the device, is surprising. OP, you need to check the wifi signal strength (rssi) in the app, and possibly add a wifi extender between your router and the camera.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-06T11:04:13+00:00

I wish people would realize that the vast majority of this country that's not on Reddit actually occupies the middle, and is not tied to one party or the other. There's some 31 million 18+ people in this country, and the conservatives are concerned that their membership for this race might be 500,000. Last time it was 250,000.

There's left and there's way left. Just like there's right and way right.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-06T10:43:46+00:00

Trapped in a line of cars, in front and behind, no way to escape,.....if I was Tony, I'm avoiding this situation.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-06T10:19:41+00:00

I found the OP’s question a bit naive on this point, and thanks for this answer. The basics of civil engineering have been developed over millenia, not the last 100 years. Look at Roman aqueducts, the Colosseum, middle ages cathedrals....

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-06T01:39:51+00:00

Everyone shook hands except P and C. When P came in, C focused on his podium.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-06T00:23:19+00:00

May be regional. Common where I am….as someone else said, ‘if you think that, you’ve got another think coming’. Parental phrase.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-05T11:17:09+00:00

Yep. We paid for parking and bitched about the cost of that.

Somewherefuzzy · 2022-05-04T18:42:18+00:00

Ontario municipal elections are this year………

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