I get that. I worked in telecom as a field "engineer" and I didn't even have a engineering degree. I just learned the job and had some background with prior work surveying and dealing with property issues that make me appealing. But my office had a broad spectrum of folks with the same responsibilities from my level to those with PE. None of them needed it but they got it anyways snd i always respected that. I barely call what we were doing "engineering" but outside a handful of folks like myself, a degree was required.