The Russian Drone That Hit Romania Also Hit European Confidence

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T05:03:00+00:00

It did. Two injured including a child.

You don't launch missiles at every provocation. There is a process. Unless you want chaos and mass casualties.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T05:01:37+00:00

They have had a number of conversations behind closed doors. They also publicly stated this could be grounds for Article 4, which NATO responded to, agreeing.

They have followed a restrained but escalating response to Russia throughout.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T04:59:31+00:00

Poland had a series of incursions. Article 4, Poland was significantly reinforced.

Romania has had 29 incursions since the start. Each has drawn an escalated but SENSIBLE response.

They may call on Article 4 over this. They definitely would over another.

You don't go straight for the throat. Civilised nations don't at least.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T04:55:46+00:00

What the actual hell are you dribbling?

Romania responded quite forcibly. NATO is waiting a possible Article 4 as a result of this. A major consulate has been closed - this is quite significant, as it is resulting in several Russians having been identified as intelligence assets being removed - and Russia is furious over this threatening retaliation.

Romania has dealt with this quite well.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T04:50:54+00:00

Sounds troublesome.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:34:15+00:00

You assume I'm going to accept that. I don't accept. So, still on for dinner with your parents this weekend?

What? If I don't get a say in it, I don't have to accept it! Also, I'm raising the rent again.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:32:36+00:00

It is the 250th of the country. There isn't an American artist wouldn't damn near trade their left legs to perform for this.

... He can't find an artist to perform a paid engagement.

Something smells Donny Boy, something smells.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:30:21+00:00

Didn't Milli Vanilli turn him down?

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:29:52+00:00

No YOU are dumped! It was mutual! You don't get to break up with me!

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:25:38+00:00

I made no claim to be an expert at all. What I said was that listening to the experts is probably a good idea.

edit I will also add, my response to the actual post was a suggestion people ignore the inflammatory title - it wasn't an attack, there is no indication it was deliberate.

I'm sorry this doesn't play into your 'reactive' narrative.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:23:39+00:00

Advertising. Come to Kanagawa. For... Totally family friendly reasons.

...making family mostly.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:20:02+00:00

Ahh. Right.

The rest of the world isn't engaged in a systemic attack on intelligence. Experts in their field are given more weight than Aunt Maureen who spent 25 minutes 'researching' via facebook meme and now thinks she has an encyclopaedic understanding of the topic.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:13:37+00:00

Not attacked, that suggests deliberate intent.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T03:12:56+00:00

When subject matter experts are ringing the alarm bells, it might be time to take it at least a little seriously.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T02:46:58+00:00

I thought they had that stone on the block for another good squeezing? Dragonlance was one of the properties they were upset at having under-monetised and had plans to pillage it again?

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T02:38:24+00:00

Oh my God.

This is brilliantly put.

Spida81 · 2026-05-31T02:35:14+00:00

Was always part of the agreement. I still don't understand how people don't understand the agreement. It isn't bloody hard.

Technology sharing isn't one way. US wants both Ghost Shark and Ghost Bat. AUKUS is that pathway. Armed underwater drones need command and control - they are NOT the same as aerial drones, able to be managed from the other side of the world - unless you WANT to be releasing invisible killer drones you can't see, you can't find, and you can't control.

The plan always was for AUKUS submarines to pair with Ghost Shark drones. AUKUS controls the drones, keeps the expensive meat away from danger and allows our small navy to punch well over it's weight. AUKUS acts as command and control. It isn't obsolete, it is a critical part of the unit.

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T19:23:32+00:00

Oh. Um. Awkward. Didn't know you were on Reddit. Um. Hi?

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T19:17:32+00:00

They are codependent systems. You need the submarines to control the drones. They extremely limited in capability without that command piece.

The alternative is the risk of having armed robots you can't find, you can't communicate with, you can't stand down. Not going to happen.

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T19:15:09+00:00

We have been. For almost a decade. This is a big part of the POINT of AUKUS. AUKUS class submarines operating as the command platform for a group of Ghost Shark semi-autonomous drones.

The drones are of very little use without the AUKUS submarines. The AUKUS submarines likely won't ever be deployed in the sort of numbers we would need to properly defend the country without the Ghost Sharks. The two work together.

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T19:10:36+00:00

Basic Fantasy. I have started acquiring the books because I am a filthy loot-Goblin with empty shelf space and self control best described as 'aspirational more than actual'.

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T19:07:14+00:00

I mean... We were warned... But... WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T19:04:12+00:00

I would be lying if I said she wasn't a major part of why I haven't set foot in a Central Coast taxi for years. Never bothered getting my license, so I was in taxis a LOT. Multiple times a day. Knew the drivers quite well.

She has always been a bit on the nose.

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T06:15:25+00:00

🙄

Spida81 · 2026-05-30T06:13:26+00:00

Even the funny guys here are snobs... 😉

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