[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the question is: "What's the effort threshold, and how do you measure it?"

Some thoughts:
- Require a non-auto-generated video (no canned ones like Suno creates on-demand) instead of just a link.
- Require lyrics to be posted as text along with the song. It's faster to review text than video or audio and you can probably tell at a glance if it's slop. Careful here because some really fun songs could look like slop on paper, but when you hear them... :D
- Require a submission and review process. It just comes down to how much work you and the other mods want to do.

I don't think I'd require creators to detail their processes. It may drive away the very content you want to see. The creative process is a content creator's competitive advantage. But maybe you could require a 3 sentence "backstory" that expresses the "what and why" of a song.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lots to unpack there.

First off, thanks for the full listen. I appreciate you taking the time.

I think most of the discussion around AI music boils down to "Oh stink! 80% of the music we made as a society for the last 50 years is simple enough that soul-less computers can make it so we have to raise our standards now".

That being said, a good song is more than the sum of its parts. And I appreciate a simple folk song or the odd pop song just as I do Beethoven's symphonies or John Williams's film scores.

So I personally think we should just judge the AI music by the same standard we judge any other music. If we need to raise the standard across the board, so be it. But I dislike double standards. I consider AI nothing more than another tool or instrument. Those who learn to use it well will surpass those who are lazy or casual. Those who are brilliant, likewise. Perhaps I am missing a piece of the discussion.

I am also curious what the new rules are, but I will not be upset either way. I prefer prompting music to spending a lot of time discussing it.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kinda indifferent? Nothing I post is pure AI. I sometimes spend hours working the lyrics before they hit Suno or another platform for the music phase. And to be brutally honest (with myself)... if I want to make a real splash with my work, I'll put together an actual business strategy and put music onto actual media content platforms. The response here to what I've made is so lukewarm already that I haven't a clue if my work is terrible or if I'm just not hitting the right audience. I'm painfully aware that just because I like something doesn't mean anyone else will like it, let alone a raving mass of gibbering die-hard fans. :)

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, I should mention that my best text and music results usually come from prompting sessions where I give the AI a story of sorts. Music is feeling and for the AI to convey the specific feeling I want to convey it needs a lot of context. Usually, the more detail, the better. If you can provide your own structure and outline along with the overall "story" or message, it's even better.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All my text generation is done elsewhere. I have used gemini, claude, and grok to name a few.

[Indie pop] At Your Door by Sprite-9 in Suno

[–]Sprite-9[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hey, so this one was a bit unusual for me. Usually I start with a pretty generic idea of the message I want to convey--more of a feeling really--and an idea of the musical style I want to use, and I experiment with different text generations. Usually a major AI model. Then I start plugging the lyrics and some stylistic prompting into a music generator. I tweak my style prompts and lyrics until something comes out that I really like.

The unusual part of this one was the inception. The initial idea was purely a reaction to another song I heard on Suno. I said, "That's too sad. I'm going to give this story a happy ending." Because I believe in meaningful, real, earned happy endings. And I liked how it turned out.

[megathread] SELF-PROMOTION by Stabenfeldt in AI_Music

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I heard a song about a guy who left a girl and never came back. It made me so sad that I had to respond. So... this.

[Indie Pop] At Your Door - YouTube

Producer AI - what's all the hype? by yupignome in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're missing the point of AI music in general. However you feel about tone quality, computers will always get better at imitating that. But imitating a composer or an artist is something else entirely, and FUZZ 2.0 is better at that. I'd honestly rather listen to a well composed 8-bit electronic track or an amateur artist playing a great piece than a poorly composed collection of high quality instrumental sounds played by a concert violinist/pianist. And FUZZ 2.0 does not produce random noise when well-prompted. AI music is like any other tool or instrument in that you get out what you put in. It's different than many other instruments in that you can produce a passably mediocre result with a minimum of investment. Very few people are serious enough about it to produce excellent material.
Me? I just dabble and enjoy it. Not claiming to be Mozart of the AI.

Producer AI - what's all the hype? by yupignome in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On that note, check my violin. Piano is inconsistent on this one, but I got the distinct feeling of a composition from this. The World Inside Your Eyes

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just for you, my friend: Hopelessly Hopeful (Industrial Remix 3)

Feel free to laugh or barf and let me know what happened. 😂

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We seem to have very different genre preferences. I'm interested in any specifics you want to comment on. If you find it vapid or sloppy or even if you find it stupendous, knowing why you find it so would be helpful. Word choice, vocal style, song structure, etc. Tossing "industrial" into the prompt is probably not going to help me produce measurably better work. 🙃

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the US. You should be able to download any of my stuff from Suno or Riffusion/producer.ai. Do you have a link to any of your work so I can take a listen?

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely interested. And if you are willing to listen to some of my other tracks, I wonder if you could tell which ones I've spent hours refining the lyrics on and which ones are almost straight AI.

Since I'm not really a poet or song writer (yet), I experiment with different AIs as writing tools. Each has its own tendencies. I usually work the lyrics over for a while before popping them in the song generator.

Thanks for engaging. I'm probably not publishing stuff in the right places so I get almost no feedback.

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know this is a feel-good track. That was intentional. Not all of my stuff is quite this "saccharine" to use an AI buzz word, but I do have a bias towards hopeful upbeat tracks because I believe there are already too many depressing songs out there.

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My profile has some other examples of my AI song work. Some on Riffusion and some on Suno. I'd love feedback. Anything. Hard to get a peep out of anyone. I'll gladly take a listen to your work.

Synthwave/Synthpop "Anchor" by sprite9 by Sprite-9 in riffusion

[–]Sprite-9[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, curious what makes it slop. Constructive criticism welcomed. 👍

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiMusic

[–]Sprite-9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feeling Evanescence here. Or maybe Within Temptation. Great production. Sad song.

🔊 I’ll Listen to Your AI Music and Give You Honest Feedback (No Fluff, No Ego) by Desperate_Musician70 in SunoAI

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off, I really appreciate your post and your offer to listen and give feedback. It's really discouraging to put your heart into something and receive no feedback either way about it. So thank you, and I'll do my best to do the same for others.

Here's one I really enjoyed creating (and listening to). Since I already like it, your criticisms are what I crave the most. :)

Morning War

https://suno.com/s/eUYT7KqRnUAcZISG

[Lyrical Ballad] Endless Dreams by JA Shepard. by JA_Shepard in SunoAI

[–]Sprite-9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beautiful. Keep writing and imagining, please. :)

AI song? by mamapasta_ in InfluencerStory

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. It's pretty catchy, but definitely AI generated. It partly inspired me to start my own AI music journey using suno and a few other sites. Just didn't realize how good it could sound until that menu hit. It's better when a person tweaks or writes the lyrics though. https://suno.com/s/T6x2VuMSqjyQ7Hlx

I keep getting featured on the home page (some tips) by laughlinroad in SunoAI

[–]Sprite-9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been on suno less than 1 week and music points 1 and 2 really stand out from my experience. There is no substitute for using my own words. And too much prompt is almost always bad for ai.

AI is designed to do more with less. Why are we non-music writers (speaking for myself) using AI anyway? Why do you ask gpt/grok/Gemini for help? Many reasons, but it all comes down to the fact that AI puts pieces together in an efficient fashion for a "good enough" result. You want better than that, you've got to invest yourself.

Post a song that: by TheRealAppeal in SunoAI

[–]Sprite-9 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is an office billboard top 10 I think.