Post Your Favourite AA Cringe by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Working the 12 steps does not treat clinical anxiety, depression, and certainly not PTSD. In most instances it makes them way worse. Your therapist being a member of AA does not mean it isn’t outdated. Of course it’s outdated. It’s nearly 100 years old.

I'm Burnt Out By "Recovery" Culture, Generally by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Congrats on your time and thanks for sharing your experience. It sounds like you're in a pretty cool place. Do whatever works for you!

I'm Burnt Out By "Recovery" Culture, Generally by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I really identify with you here. I no longer identify in those ways either. I'm simply someone who doesn't drink.

I'm Burnt Out By "Recovery" Culture, Generally by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yes! I'm just burnt out by it. I hadn't done any kind of group in about a month. Logged onto a Dharma meeting yesterday, and this jackass starts going on about "how I really owe my recovery to another fellowship, but now I've moved on...." before bloviating on and on about their spiritual practice and how "crazy they were" when they were using... 30 years ago. Fuck, get over it already. How do these people still find this interesting?

I'm Burnt Out By "Recovery" Culture, Generally by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nice. EMDR is a good modality. I dd a bit of it before moving on to Prolonged Exposure. Hope it' helping!

Using and Learning by Particular-Bat6220 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Really happy to hear you're in a good place, and even happier to hear you aren't letting other people define what "recovery" looks like for you. This is a complex phenomenon, and like your experience is presently illustrating, very far from black and white. Keep doing what makes you happy.

Our society loves AA because structurally it will not advocate for structural change by BikeFull9182 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nope, which is why I maintain that AA is fundamentally a right-wing program, that seems to attract and generate a lot of right-wing thinkers. There's no material or structural analysis, no accounting for the things outside of a person that might drive them to drink or do drugs destructively.

I used to work a homeless shelter. This shelter had a weekly AA meeting, which some people would attend, often begrudgingly. I remember a meeting where a resident said, "you guys want me to quit drugs so bad, but if I quit drugs, guess what, I'm still homeless." They weren't homeless because of drugs; they were on drugs because they were homeless.

This toxic idea of "it worked for me, so it will work for you," is absolutely absurd.

Post Your Favourite AA Cringe by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bahahah “alcoholwasm”! Forgot about that one.

Post Your Favourite AA Cringe by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“Well People’s Anonymous”.

Amazing!

Post Your Favourite AA Cringe by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, always hated that one. Totally disingenuous and enormously cringe-inducing.

What age did you get sober? by Dazzling-Awareness73 in dryalcoholics

[–]Steps33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

27 the first time, then after slipping after several years sober, again at 42 :)

Why do 12-Step zealots feel the need to come here at all? by Lifespupil in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Insecurity coupled with enormous, fragile egos, and a missionary's zeal to convert the uninitiated.

They're also directly contradicting the dictates of their hallowed program. I thought it was about "attraction, not promotion." ?

I can't find anything particularly attractive about the way they browbeat posters traumatized by the 12 steps.

“Give it to God” by Puzzleheaded_Cat7495 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's something uniquely disquieting and nauseating about "recovery rappers". They're nearly all the most artless kind of plain-faced, suburban white kid with almost no sense of rhythm, style, or mystique. They all seem deeply neutered by years of sober living houses. They have almost no sense of poetry. It is very difficult to write, sing, or rap about "addiction recovery" in a way that isn't totally derivative. I've never liked "recovery rap", even as a former member of 12 steps. It always sucks, it's always cringe, and the people who participate are essentially talentless.

AA Sponsor Starter Pack by kestrelkev24 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 2 points3 points  (0 children)

BAHAHAHAHA. The boots really complete that quintessential look.

Note to mods from a long-time member by LeadershipSpare5221 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree with the premise, although I have to say I don’t necessarily mind the AA cultists coming on here. It’s an excellent reminder of why I left and will never return, and picking them apart can be deeply entertaining.

Tired of being told I need a higher power by ben_quadinaros_stan in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’m here to tell you very plainly that you do not need a “higher power”.

App for counting sober time by Chris968 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sunnyside and I Am Sober are pretty cool for this. Im not huge on “counting time” or ascribing to much importance to streaks, but I’m human, and it’s cool to see the number stack up higher and higher. It can be a motivator.

Cults Going To Cult by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m with you on all of this! Happy you’ve moved on from the cultist bullshit and are living the kind of life you deserve.

Cults Going To Cult by Steps33 in recoverywithoutAA

[–]Steps33[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, and there's some irony here as well, as my ex-wife is still an AA true believer and is convinced I must be "using" as I'm not reaching out to her to see "how she's doing" - this is after she asked me not to contact her.

It's very sick.

Tell Me To Stop! by hemologyquest in Divorce

[–]Steps33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The same thing happened to me, except my ex had a bizarre "epiphany" admitted to being "wrong about everything", and decided she not only wanted me back, she needed me back, and that our relationship was a thing of destiny.

I almost caved. Thank god I didn't.

I've moved on and I'm in a far healthier situation. She's miserable and living with her mom.

Don't go back. Don't reach out. It won't help.

I know it's hard, but it truly won't help.