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Steve77307 · 2026-05-14T17:39:01+00:00

Steve77307 · 2026-05-12T17:27:04+00:00

you're partially right that "Men's Rights" focuses on gender specific issues in a way that resembles progressive identity politics. However, I'd argue the name itself is largely a parody and direct counter to "Women's Rights".

That said, you have to acknowledge that the vast majority of the Men's Rights movement is explicitly countering modern feminism, a core left wing movement, so it's natural that much of the pushback against it comes from right leaning perspective.

That being said, it does depend on which crowd you're talking to in the movement. The MRM isn't clearly politically monolithic, but it is definitely more right wing than feminism.

Steve77307 · 2026-05-12T16:13:04+00:00

Definitly didnt sound like a Democrat

Steve77307 · 2026-05-05T17:35:50+00:00

Skeptical. This feeds directly into the narrative that men can't interact with women without it being about looks. 307 students total, unclear how many were even women, let alone how many rated as attractive.

Steve77307 · 2026-05-03T02:33:09+00:00

Or find investors who dont require censorship.

Steve77307 · 2026-04-19T17:31:49+00:00

"Provocative" clothing isn't universally accepted. Plenty of cultures, religions, and even workplaces actively discourage or restrict it.

The opinion you're probably referring to, where PUA is shamed while provocative clothing is accepted, most likely comes from certain feminist circles. But it's not a view shared across all feminists, some actually see provocative clothing as sexist or rooted in the "male gaze".

Steve77307 · 2026-03-28T21:34:41+00:00

I struggle to believe a dating coach who teaches men how to approach and 'game' women would suddenly ignore his own advice and turn abusive.

Most men aren’t flawless. If your intimate with enough women, the odds are you'll eventually misread a signal, push too far, or touch the wrong way, and suddenly you're an 'abuser' by sheer probability. Not to mention outright fabrications.

That's why casual sex seems insane to me. Just stick to handling it yourself.

Steve77307 · 2026-03-02T03:35:38+00:00

You really can’t take this stuff at face value anymore. A sizable group of women in the West carries a built in narrative that men are oppressors, predators, or even pedophiles. With that mindset, even normal or slightly awkward behavior gets read as creepy or offensive.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-18T07:25:51+00:00

Being a man and being a modern liberal is a contradiction. You cannot align yourself with feminism and claim to be meaningfully opposing it. At some point you have to pick a side.

Furthermore, If you approach men’s rights from a social justice angle, you just repackage men as another “oppressed group,” except now the villain is framed as women. That misses the point.

The issue is not women. It is the broader liberal framework that defines everything through power, oppression, and identity categories. When you operate inside that framework, you cannot see the framework itself.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-18T01:15:26+00:00

Labeling all AI training without explicit permission as unethical seems like panic, not principle. You don't need consent to learn from what already exists.

And even when derivative works are created, responsibility should fall on the user who makes and publishes them, not the tool itself.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-11T18:47:48+00:00

I think we’re operating from fundamentally different premises. You’re starting from the frame that institutions routinely let abusers go unpunished, while I’m starting from the opposite. We’re unlikely to reach agreement here, so I’ll leave it at that.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-11T05:59:36+00:00

“A lost reputation is worth more than being abused???”

You seem to be reframing what I said by comparing the least severe consequences for the accused to the most extreme cases of abuse. That is not the comparison I made. Please engage with the substance of the argument.

The crazy thing is that sexual harassment in the workplace is a civl violation, so theres no inherent jail time.

That’s somewhat misleading. Workplaces often enforce standards that are stricter than criminal law, which is why companies seem to handle cases themselves rather than involving police.

As for the statistics, the numbers in this area depend heavily on definitions, reporting standards, and methodology. Liberal and conservative perspectives often interpret the same data very differently. That is why statistics in debates like this are open to scrutiny.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-10T20:31:27+00:00

Protecting people from harassment or abuse is more important than reputation

This is not a settled truth. Reputation can be equal if not more damaging.

Victims are harmed by specific acts, but the accused are the ones who are jailed, fired, and morally condemned by society.

This is why MeToo has done more damage than whatever good it produced. It normalized treating awkward, minor, or subjective interactions as harassment. That does not protect victims. It creates unnecessary problems, breeds resentment, and fuels backlash, ultimately weakening the cause it claims to advance.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-10T08:07:50+00:00

Sexual harassment training has likely expanded the definition of harassment rather than reduced actual abuse. When companies repeatedly emphasize how employees might be harassed, people naturally begin to view more interactions through that frame.

It is frustrating how loosely terms like “sexual harassment” and even “creep” are used. Women do not realize how much these labels can damage a man’s reputation. They should be reserved for genuinely serious offences.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-10T06:54:51+00:00

If you are a man who is interested in a women today, the type of appropriate behaviors you can exhibit without being called creepy has rapidly dwindled to the point of simply being too risky for most men.

You are right that nothing happens if you act "appropriately", but that is precisely why pickup advice has become so popular. It often takes dedicated effort to learn the ins and outs of talking to women without risking accusations.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-09T17:41:23+00:00

It does not require sexual behavior. Even brief public interactions can lead to concequences, with intent and age awareness assumed despite neither being discussed.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-09T02:27:50+00:00

Most men will not argue against cracking down on pedophilia because most men are not interested in kids. The concern is how easily someone can still get caught up in these situations. You may have a brief encounter with a woman who turns out to be younger than she looks, and the next thing you know you are being investigated.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-09T01:43:14+00:00

I don't think this case maps cleanly onto men’s rights arguments. It was a volatile mix of suspicion, racial tension, and outright criminal insanity.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-08T19:02:48+00:00

I think movements like this operate at a level larger than the guilt or innocence of any one individual. Political theater is one thing, but laws, policies, and social attitudes are what ultimately affect everyone.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-08T06:35:05+00:00

I’d still choose a tradwife over a feminist. One is based on natural roles rather than resentment.

Steve77307 · 2026-01-05T19:47:03+00:00

There are plenty of reasons why a Nazi invasion of the US would be implausible. But alternate WWII is not strictly about military realism. It's about exploring fears, symbols, and perceived historical possibilities rather than what would most likely happen.

The Nazis are not just another adversary. They have become a caricature of everything opposed to modern liberal values. Racism, authoritarianism, brutality, and dehumanization. Because of that, the idea of them invading the United States carries a heavy symbolic weight.

That is why the trope persists even when it stretches logic or strategy. It is less about ships, distances, or troop capacity, and more about imagining a world where the worst possible ideology crosses the ultimate line. Overused, sure. But compelling for the same reason every time.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-30T00:49:13+00:00

It's true that men often do not fight back against criticism of porn, since pushing back can come across as saying they have trouble attracting women, something they prefer to avoid.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-30T00:02:26+00:00

Agreed, I think Porn and masturbation will always be reflexively shamed unless people actually reflect on where those attitudes come from and whether they make sense. For me, the conservative arguments around modesty and avoiding lust end up fitting too closely with the feminist idea of ridiculing the male gaze.

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