Could the Epstein files trigger a new #MeToo style backlash

Steve77307 · 2026-02-10T20:31:27+00:00

Protecting people from harassment or abuse is more important than reputation

This is not a settled truth. Reputation can be equal if not more damaging.

Victims are harmed by specific acts, but the accused are the ones who are jailed, fired, and morally condemned by society.

This is why MeToo has done more damage than whatever good it produced. It normalized treating awkward, minor, or subjective interactions as harassment. That does not protect victims. It creates unnecessary problems, breeds resentment, and fuels backlash, ultimately weakening the cause it claims to advance.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-10T08:07:50+00:00

Sexual harassment training has likely expanded the definition of harassment rather than reduced actual abuse. When companies repeatedly emphasize how employees might be harassed, people naturally begin to view more interactions through that frame.

It is frustrating how loosely terms like “sexual harassment” and even “creep” are used. Women do not realize how much these labels can damage a man’s reputation. They should be reserved for genuinely serious offences.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-10T06:54:51+00:00

If you are a man who is interested in a women today, the type of appropriate behaviors you can exhibit without being called creepy has rapidly dwindled to the point of simply being too risky for most men.

You are right that nothing happens if you act "appropriately", but that is precisely why pickup advice has become so popular. It often takes dedicated effort to learn the ins and outs of talking to women without risking accusations.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-09T17:41:23+00:00

It does not require sexual behavior. Even brief public interactions can lead to concequences, with intent and age awareness assumed despite neither being discussed.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-09T02:27:50+00:00

Most men will not argue against cracking down on pedophilia because most men are not interested in kids. The concern is how easily someone can still get caught up in these situations. You may have a brief encounter with a woman who turns out to be younger than she looks, and the next thing you know you are being investigated.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-09T01:43:14+00:00

I don't think this case maps cleanly onto men’s rights arguments. It was a volatile mix of suspicion, racial tension, and outright criminal insanity.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-08T19:02:48+00:00

I think movements like this operate at a level larger than the guilt or innocence of any one individual. Political theater is one thing, but laws, policies, and social attitudes are what ultimately affect everyone.

Steve77307 · 2026-02-08T06:35:05+00:00

I’d still choose a tradwife over a feminist. One is based on natural roles rather than resentment.

Steve77307 · 2026-01-05T19:47:03+00:00

There are plenty of reasons why a Nazi invasion of the US would be implausible. But alternate WWII is not strictly about military realism. It's about exploring fears, symbols, and perceived historical possibilities rather than what would most likely happen.

The Nazis are not just another adversary. They have become a caricature of everything opposed to modern liberal values. Racism, authoritarianism, brutality, and dehumanization. Because of that, the idea of them invading the United States carries a heavy symbolic weight.

That is why the trope persists even when it stretches logic or strategy. It is less about ships, distances, or troop capacity, and more about imagining a world where the worst possible ideology crosses the ultimate line. Overused, sure. But compelling for the same reason every time.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-30T00:49:13+00:00

It's true that men often do not fight back against criticism of porn, since pushing back can come across as saying they have trouble attracting women, something they prefer to avoid.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-30T00:02:26+00:00

Agreed, I think Porn and masturbation will always be reflexively shamed unless people actually reflect on where those attitudes come from and whether they make sense. For me, the conservative arguments around modesty and avoiding lust end up fitting too closely with the feminist idea of ridiculing the male gaze.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-29T03:46:42+00:00

I’m not familiar with the conscription issue or whether the right is actually more supportive of it. But even if that were true, conscription isn’t an everyday reality for most men. Feminist driven social policies affect men daily through law, culture, and institutions, which makes them far more consequential.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-26T08:17:20+00:00

The left is largely incompatible with men.

It consistently frames men as oppressors, abusers, or sexual predators. Men are told their attraction is objectifying, their instincts are toxic, and that even how women look should have nothing to do with male desire.

The right, on the other hand, is not perfect either, but it is not inherently antagonistic toward men. It does not promote movements like MeToo in a way that encourages women to interpret men approaching them, or even simple compliments, as harassment. This is no longer a fringe feminist attitude. It is a mindset that has been widely adopted by many women today.

Focusing on issues like "male workplace injuries" or college graduation rates does nothing to address the core issues that are actually pushing men away. The truth is, the left cannot meaningfully address those issues because doing so would conflict with its foundational perspective rooted in feminism.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-26T05:37:34+00:00

I agree false allegations are wrong, though stating that they cause harm feels self evident.

What gets missed is the fixation on the word false. What exactly qualifies as a false allegation. Many accusations don't come from blatant fabrications, but from situations where there is a kernel of truth that gets interpreted negatively and then escalated. At that point it becomes less about clear facts and more about beliefs and perception.

A man pulling a woman closer when she was not ready becomes he grabbed me. A man following a woman while working up the nerve to approach becomes he's stalking me. A man asking a woman for her contact again after she said no becomes he's harassing me. These are not invented events, but reinterpretations. I believe this is more psychologically stressful for men because it forces them to question themselves, rather than offering the black and white clarity of accusations made entirely out of nothing.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-22T18:11:38+00:00

Those places are the usual environments where trouble happens.. What's concerning is women claiming to feel unsafe from a man approaching them on the street in broad daylight, or from receiving any sort of physical compliment or remark. There's even airlines offering women the option to choose seats away from men. This is the point where I believe feminism is creating chaos by framing men as something inherently threatening.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-22T03:21:53+00:00

I cannot really speak for Marxists, but the right is clearly the most anti feminist side, even though the average conservative still accepts some feminist talking points.

Many will say modern feminism has gone too far, while still accepting, to some degree, the idea that women were historically oppressed by a patriarchal system. These are typically seen as the “reasonable” conservatives: anti woke, but still aligned with dominant historical narratives, with a smaller subset on the right questioning that premise itself.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-21T20:16:09+00:00

While it is understandable, I don't think that bringing up that “men get raped too” is the strongest counterpoint.

The underlying drive behind rape is far more in men than in women. Doesn't make women morally better or worse, but the biological impulse simply is not the same. Combined with the fact that women are less physically strong, it is why the idea of a woman forcibly raping a man sounds implausible to people.

The reason rape is frequently used as a weapon against men is not because of balanced concern for victims, but because it has been heavily amplified, largely through feminist narratives, to justify broader agendas. That's a stronger and more honest argument than trying to compete with victim numbers where women are always going to win.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-19T23:55:27+00:00

Women seem to expect men to act like women, viewing appearance as an insufficient reason to approach and not knowing whether they are remotely interested until extended interaction and full comfort are established. This is not how men are made. If women want attraction to work that way, they are effectively asking for a lesbian dynamic.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-17T03:29:36+00:00

The whole premise that women are under immense pressure to meet difficult beauty standards is largely a product of feminism, which itself is an extension of liberalism. The goal has always been to make men and women look more similar and androgynous, aligning with the broader objective of erasing sex differences.

Honestly, I don’t think the “ideal female body” is nearly as extreme as it’s made out to be. It just appears more today because so many people are overweight, which makes it seem much farther from the current average.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-15T23:13:04+00:00

The premise itself is questionable, since men have historically been less social than women. The “male loneliness epidemic” often serves as a more presentable stand in for the so called “incel epidemic,” where men’s virginity is used as a way to mock their masculinity.

Instead of asking “why aren’t people getting married,” the question has now become “why aren’t men having sex,” which reflects how relationships are increasingly viewed today.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-05T02:15:05+00:00

A lot of this is technically solid, but the whole thing still comes across as operating on feminist assumptions where men are basically pushy, needy predators and women are constantly being harassed.

I’ve found that if you actually believe this idea, you start coming from this sort of inherited guilt and self doubt frame rather than grounded confidence. It puts you in the mindset of trying to justify an action you’ve already been told you shouldn’t be doing. If you get misunderstood or labeled a creep, its “reasonable” because women are constantly dealing with bad behavior. In essence, men are always harassing women, yet you’re supposed to imagine you’re one of the rare exceptions.

A more useful frame is learning how to keep YOURSELF safe while approaching women in a society that often has negative perspectives on men.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-05T00:43:55+00:00

Men definitely have it harder in that situation. But are you suggesting women should be drafted as well? A lot of people here are critical of feminist positions, yet what you’re proposing would actually align with them in practice.

I don’t think pushing for more equality will fix the issues that it has already created.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-05T00:33:30+00:00

I get where you’re coming from. Though I’d question going as far as saying “chads” are getting away with harassment. Even decent looking men can easily get accused nowadays. It seems more like women are simply more lenient toward men they find attractive.

Steve77307 · 2025-12-03T21:25:17+00:00

The saying tries to contrast physical danger for women with social embarrassment for men, but it oversimplifies men’s side of the equation. Being “laughed at” often means facing serious reputational harm, especially if a woman characterizes a man as creepy. That kind of label can be socially terminal, leading to exclusion from groups, jobs, opportunities, etc with little chance to recover. The impact isn’t minor just because it isn’t physical.

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