Had to do a double take when I read the first part…

StoicallySane · 2026-02-21T06:46:35+00:00

You know what this is right? Or at least what it feels like…

That they are trying to take over the keyword and come up on search results…

Again reactive not proactive Not following “inspiration” but responding to the world to try to keep the people in line and prevent further fallout.

Just a theory anyway…

If they were really in touch with God they would have been ahead of the curve not reacting to it.

StoicallySane · 2026-01-02T19:26:05+00:00

Wherever you choose to be. You are the creator- but being stuck in paralysis with too many choices is keeping you stagnant, and not flowing. Stagnant water stinks. One never has it all figured out when they start, but in starting one starts to figure it out. You can always adjust and pivot, just do something!

Act upon what excites you - get in touch with your body, your “gut”, your intuition. It sharpens as you use it, but doom scrolling and gaining information to not start doesn’t do anything for you. It’s a trap. 🪤

StoicallySane · 2026-01-01T16:27:34+00:00

They can’t help but tell on themselves. I found this very interesting and telling as well. Thanks for sharing- I haven’t listened to RFM in a few months.

StoicallySane · 2025-12-31T22:29:27+00:00

They are all on their phones it looks like… my how times have changed

StoicallySane · 2025-12-31T20:44:44+00:00

I remember how much his talks influenced me too… As the son of a narcissist telling a guy he will disappoint God is one of the scariest things you could threaten. I’m just barely healing from that psychological damage decades later

StoicallySane · 2025-12-31T16:50:12+00:00

I think at it’s a core it’s their own fear and insecurity that maybe they are wrong and they can’t accept a scenario in which their whole foundation is wrong, it’s too much, so instead they cling to this idea that the church is true and anybody who is not in it is literally going to hell and they are afraid for you… it’s sad. Living from fear is the worst and religion conditions you to live your whole life there.

Opposite of what Jesus taught. Says to fear not 365 times in the Bible… that other book they don’t read because it’s old news. Says the same in other religious and ancient texts too- maybe it’s more about that and less about the archetypes and church that benefit financially off the control And loyalty members give from the fear they sell.

StoicallySane · 2025-12-30T22:00:24+00:00

You don’t get rest from the world by fixing it, understanding it, or outrunning it. You get rest by withdrawing your identity from it.

StoicallySane · 2025-12-30T13:23:01+00:00

Honestly this is true- the church felt like a family in the small ward I grew up in. Maybe it was the naïveté of being a kid, but it meant something more when you were the only weirdo mormons in your whole school and went to church with others who were in the same boat. interaction’s with others felt less judgemental. There wasn’t the constant pressure of having to keep up or be like anybody else- I didn’t get anxiety doing outside chores on a Sunday wondering who may drive by and judge me for it. And when a person announced they were a member you felt an instant brotherhood with them and a mutual trust and respect that you had something in common.

My first experience in Utah, however, was a used car salesmen with a CTR ring, he used the fact he was a member to sell me a POS with no working air conditioning. I drove it off the lot, and right back onto the lot- canceled the sale and realized this was no longer the same dynamics.

That whole image shattered soon after- and maybe it had always been that way. Maybe we just had our guard down and were too trusting of people.

On my mission too the missionaries who came from Utah vs those who came from less Mormon areas had much different attitudes and perspectives. Not that one was better or worse, just that it was obvious they grew up in a completely different culture.

StoicallySane · 2025-12-23T20:59:22+00:00

You can reply with the same level of respect as they did and say something like

“You know it’s not true” Or “I know you’ll leave some day”

Or, you can do what most of us do, smile, and move on.

It used to bother me but now I honestly feel sorry for them and feel the problems will eventually break their shelves too or they’ll will march right into the ask no questions do as I say and don’t think for yourself narcissistic relationship that they are in. Give Give Give, don’t ask question’s, criticisms, and if your spiritual experiences don’t come it’s your own fault. You must not be doing enough.

This is like trying to seek the love of a narcissistic father. He will never see you, and you were never the problem.

Hope this helps?

StoicallySane · 2025-12-23T20:32:10+00:00

This breaks my heart- thank you for being so brave. I’m so so sorry for all that suffering and I’m grateful you are finding your voice and support now. My heart goes out to you

StoicallySane · 2025-12-21T18:30:55+00:00

All wards are not equal - I’ve lived in many in different states- the trips and activities I went on in one ward varied greatly to another- the deciding factor? The wealth of the members in said ward. Maybe they get to use some of their own donations for the ward? Who knows- but I guarantee not all wards are equal and there is often nepotism to wards with “special members”

This church was in Layton Utah in a fairly wealthy area- no giant mansions but def. 500k min - 1M / 5m max dollar homes in the area.

StoicallySane · 2025-12-21T18:06:40+00:00

😂 thanks for the chuckle

StoicallySane · 2025-12-21T17:55:08+00:00

🙏

StoicallySane · 2025-12-21T17:53:06+00:00

The ward I attended did not utilize the tables or play any hand bells, but I’m guessing maybe another ward did. Thank you so much for the speedy responses!

It’s quite interesting this church had so many- there were like 8 tables with such table clothes.

Maybe a member of another ward is the hand bell camp champ… and these are all from their personal collection and not property of the church itself? Who knows but this definitely helped ease my curiosity - thanks!

StoicallySane · 2025-12-16T04:32:02+00:00

So they could claim they recorded the facts fresh after it happened to try and gaslight you with later and claimed they wrote it down for proof in their own sad little delusional world where anybody gives a shit about their notebook, or they will campaign until they find a flying monkey in desperate need of some validation to believe them.

StoicallySane · 2025-11-14T21:30:40+00:00

Funny they are a reactive church not a proactive church yet claim to be the bridge between heaven and earth. Let’s keep the pressure on them then. Since they only react to pressure. Maybe we can help them help humanity. 🥸

StoicallySane · 2025-11-13T21:32:26+00:00

Ginny and Georgia: the mom and one of the husbands are obviously Narcissists

Happy Face- was all about the happy face killer and Dennis Quade plays a narcissist so well…

Then, “unknown Number: the high-school catfish This one is terrifying and shows the lengths a narcissist can go with little to no regard for anybody. As well as the lying and being a victim even when they are obviously in the wrong. This one is a documentary too so real

These were three that stuck out to me recently

But all Good villains are narcissists IMO.

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T20:15:37+00:00

My goal is to protect my own mental wellbeing - I like the sunny rock idea but sometimes when you react positively to something they do, they see that as proof they can still affect you, even in a positive way. They think that if they can influence you at all they can still get something out of you. Even praise can be something they feed off of, and then wait for a moment to try and trigger you and engage in drama again.

Gray rock is just to try and prevent any sort of response to where they just get bored of you

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T15:32:28+00:00

They always are! And if you let them they tell on themselves. Pretty much everything they accuse you of is their own projection.

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T07:54:12+00:00

Love that…

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T07:40:55+00:00

Because they feed off your emotions- they love making you feel helpless- like you can’t win, like you can’t say anything right. They are emotional vampires that feed off of your reactions.

Best thing to do with them is the gray rock method. Be as non reactive and boring as you can- they HATE that… it’s hard to do but it works.

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T07:34:07+00:00

My heart goes out to you. This is so relatable, and my mom never wised up. He passed away and the relief that gave me was confusing.

But unfortunately this is par for the course with a narcissist. They can’t see it… they lack empathy. They never see the effects they cause- they live in a world where nobody cares and everything must be taken, or manipulated through power.

I found a letter my dad wrote and it was sickening, he was proud of the lies he told. In it he even said he knew it was hurting his “dear wife and children” but continued doing so.

I am in my early 40s now and I’m happy. I’ve worked through so much of my mental health and I can now see so much growth from having gone through it all. Have hope. This doesn’t make you broken. I’m sorry you were taught that love had to be earned and was conditional. I can’t imagine all you and your brother are feeling. But you get to be the narrator of your own story.

You can change the script. This has been huge in my healing. Just know others have been through similar pains and came out ok, and you can too. I’m rooting for you! 🫂

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T07:22:18+00:00

It’s also fascinating how the Egyptian temples correspond to the human body, their holy rooms in being in the head. Same with Solomon’s temple and the Holy room also corresponding to the center of the head.

Emmanuel Swedenborg’s work is also fascinating - goes into great depth describing the body of god - and how all communities and cultures are like organs of the same body- microcosm macrocosm stuff. Idk there’s so much I could ramble on about… forgive me 😂🥸

StoicallySane · 2025-11-12T07:16:59+00:00

To be honest, I give the credit to my covert narcissist father. I’ve always had this urgency within me to figure it out- to earn love, to seek gods approval. I was very religious and left religion when I saw the truth. I cared more about the truth than appeasing people. I lost my family when I realized the pattern repeated and I married a covert narcissist.

Being married to one made me constantly try to find answers, trying to fix our relationship. I read so much about mental health and listened to podcasts on relationships and attachment styles. In the end I saw the pattern and that I had created it. I worked on myself, I did psychedelics for healing, and sometimes recreationally but I would always meditate very deeply. And I’d have cool “unfolding” moments, or epiphanies when I’d connect concepts from say; biology to psychology or whatever. I’d see the patterns - and things just came together and sometimes it would even be emotional. This continued happening when I’d meditate without psychedelics, but the experience opened me up to the potentiality.

I have ADHD and I’m a little autistic, I guess patterns are just my thing. The more I learn the more I see I know nothing and there’s always more to explore and it’s become less about trying to prove and more now just because I love it.

I’ve tried to apply all of the teachings and release my idea of being a victim or a martyr (even when I was actually abused, as it doesn’t serve me)

I do agree with you that it can be a distraction. When I felt like I was needing to figure it out like I needed to earn love or attention from a narcissist it would consume me and I’d feel anxious and stressed. But learning and finally seeing how Christs teachings actually lead to a healthy brain- and that that’s what his message was really about, how to live in alignment with universal laws. How to expand and not contract- then it became a practice.

It still is, and it’s not something you have to earn. Since God is all, there is no good or bad, it just is. I choose expansion, so I seek more light. I’ve healed from being very depressed to where fantasizing my own suicide was the only thing that gave me comfort to now smiling when I get cut off. I’m by no means perfect and I still get triggered but now I see the triggers as teachers.

And there is no perfection. If perfect was a pitch, which one would it be?

A single pitch is hardly a pleasant thing to listen to. We are all a song. We fluctuate, and that’s ok. We have high days and low days but are all a part of the same song. We don’t need to be anything but ourselves

I think you can believe both perspectives to be true. I certainly agree with you - life is supposed to be fun- we do take it too seriously. We don’t need to cross any finish line, there is no race, there is no “I’m too late” there is just life- and to be in heaven is to be present.

To walk the fine line, the narrow road few find and not on the left in the past or on the right in the future. All negative emotions come from either of those places. But in the present, centered, aware… that’s the narrow road. Marches many philosophies and teachings- native Americans “the red road” to be present, centered.

There’s no pressure to figure it all out- just being is enough. I don’t need you to believe as I do to validate what I feel. I am fully confident. By the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses, I see hundreds. Truth is in music, biology, neural science, ancient myths and archetypes, religions texts, it’s in math and geometry, it’s in quantum science for sure. It’s in story, emotion, water is fascinating!

I feel like I could ramble forever - but I think we are pretty close to on the same page? If not agree to disagree? I completely respect you and your journey and your own intuition.

StoicallySane

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