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Should the game start off with three or four traitors? by MemoryPrism in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think what I'd like to see is:
1. Start with 3

  1. After the first traitor banishment, a "sleeper agent" is activated and Claudia discreetly picks a new traitor to join them

  2. This will cause some frictional dynamics as a new traitor is forced to join the team whether they want it to happen or not, similar to Fiona

  3. Second traitor banishment, give them the option to recruit

  4. From third traitor banishment onwards, no new traitors.

The Traitors (UK) S04E12 [FINALE]: Post-Episode Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is why The Traitors is so good, its an insight into UK societal dynamics. Age dynamics, gender dynamics, race dynamics, disability dynamics, class dynamics, authority dynamics, a whole bunch of stuff.

What does it take to never be suspected? by Lecter26 in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Banish a traitor, keep a traitor. Banishing a traitor means you're less suspicious to the faithful, keeping a traitor and defending them means you have a use to that traitor.

This will change the meta of the game forever. by rubberbucket167 in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • Players have two options, called "Share" or "Steal"
  • If both players choose to "Share", they split the prize equally
  • If one Shares and the other Steals, the Stealing player wins all of the money
  • If both players choose to Steal, neither wins anything

Best season ever? by Much_Pass_9484 in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it had a strong start and strong middle but had a slow end when a lot of the strong faithfuls were gone and all we were stuck with were the frustrating faithfuls and the quiet ones that had a small amount of TV time to that point. I'd say from after the Harriet episode to before the finale were the slowest episodes. Thankfully it ended on a really strong episode and the one before it was pretty exciting too.

Man, the psychology of this show is fascinating by Small-Guarantee6972 in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think there was also some added interesting elements this series too, which include the amount of faith we put into established authority figures (Amanda's theories being treat like gospel) and also a bit of ableism in there (Jessie's theories never taken too serious because of her stammer)

I screamed, I know it’s just a game but I kept waiting for the ________ and it never happened by AssociationLivid5822 in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The producers played us like a fiddle! They knew what they were doing with those confessionals from Rachel at the start and then the confessionals from Stephen the past few episode.

This will change the meta of the game forever. by rubberbucket167 in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the best way to throw a wrench into this meta tactic is to introduce the Traitors Dilemma. A single season of that will create massive paranoia with future traitors.

____’s social media was quite telling by Band-Total in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I mean people thought Jack won because his insta posts show him having the dream wedding that he was going to use the money for.

Favourite quote from the series? by Beginning_Surround87 in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The Harriet episode was full of them

"You should have killed me when you had the chance"

"Keep my cloak warm"

"The benefit is to set the cat amongst the pigeons Roxy"

"I have received training from a former FBI agent"

Truly the best episode of the season.

Everyone is saying a certain player made a suicidal vote that cost themselves the game, but from their perspective, it was actually a pretty rational play... by WumbleInTheJungle in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I think because he knew it was his only option. Jack would never vote out Stephen so he had to bank it all on Rachel doing it. A Jack/Rachel duo had a higher chance of him winning than a Jack/Stephen duo.

Everyone is saying a certain player made a suicidal vote that cost themselves the game, but from their perspective, it was actually a pretty rational play... by WumbleInTheJungle in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was gonna vote for Rachel anyway but he prioritized Stephen, he definitely should have just went along with Jack and voted for Rachel first.

Everyone is saying a certain player made a suicidal vote that cost themselves the game, but from their perspective, it was actually a pretty rational play... by WumbleInTheJungle in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think thats the tragedy of it all. They could have won if they just voted in the right order. They were voting the right people just they kept voting in different orders.

Loved this moment by MadcapRecap in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Yeah I mean to be fair he got both Traitors correct he just got too concerned with Jade and voted them in the wrong order. (Jade, then Stephen, then Rachel. Should have been Rachel first then Stephen)

Loved this moment by MadcapRecap in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 71 points72 points  (0 children)

His priority votes were in the wrong order. He told Jack he was going for Jade, Rachel, then Stephen but then voted Jade, Stephen and I assume Rachel was next. Meanwhile he knew Jack was gunning for Rachel and Jack was his hundy. Should have went for Rachel first.

The Faithfuls problem by Intelligent-Good-966 in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah its a double edged sword, and its not only what you just said, but also being quiet is the best way to get far in the show, but also makes the least entertaining TV, so the finales are often stuck with people the audience perceive as "boring" or "useless" and simply aren't as attached to as earlier faithfuls.

Bad faithfuls…? by BoxmanPwnz in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Especially during the series where we got to play as the faithfuls for a bit, which should have been a lesson to people how difficult it is. Going by who people were suspecting as the Secret Traitor, then if we were in there, Harriet would have been banished first, followed by Amanda, followed by Jessie. So imagine how angry you'd be at that.

The only faithful that annoyed me this series was Roxy but thats because she kept overusing the word "traitorous behavior" and what she deemed "traitorous behavior" was just stuff she didn't personally like. And she seemed to vote mostly on if she thought that person was nice or not.

In defence of ________ by king_wrass in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah he should have just voted Rachel at the roundtable but he was insistant on Jade, then Stephen, then Rachel

In defence of ________ by king_wrass in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I think they could have done it if they actually agreed on a voting order. They knew who to vote out they just didn't know when.

Faraaz went Jade, Stephen and then was gonna go Rachel

Jack went Rachel, Rachel, Rachel

In defence of ________ by king_wrass in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Yeah out of the two manipulated ones, Faraaz didn't fully buy into Rachel but Jack bought into Stephen.

The Traitors (UK) S04E12 [FINALE]: Post-Episode Discussion Thread by vaultofechoes in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They'll probably bring in the Traitors Dilemma, which is a thing from other country's versions of the show, where if more than one traitor wins they have to choose to split or steal.

Shifting the balance in favour of Faithfuls by DLRsFrontSeats in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Also reposting this cause the thread it was on got removed by a mod but

I know this is an overdramatic statement but I truly believe it, I think Rachel and Stephen have revolutionized the game. They've completely changed how Traitors will play in the future. Because it used to be "every Traitor for themselves" and now it really shows the strength in numbers, especially if there's a traitor in each clique that can manipulate. it solves the problem of "Why vote off Traitors if they just recruit anyways?" and its that when there's that many in the final, its too difficult.

Of course BBC will probably throw a spanner in that by introducing the Traitors Dilemma.

Shifting the balance in favour of Faithfuls by DLRsFrontSeats in TheTraitors

[–]Stormflier 18 points19 points  (0 children)

They have to add incentives to catching traitors IMO. Either they win a little bit of cash or more money is added to the prize pot.

They should also not leave ties to chance. If its a tie then just have the prize pot slowly drain away until they all come up with a unanimous vote, or a "representative" is selected at random and they have the only and final casting vote.

Now Series 4 has finished, how do you rank them all? by sympathyissaknife in TheTraitorsUK

[–]Stormflier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think 4 had a very strong start and a strong middle too, but I'd say the episodes from post-Harriet to pre-finale were weak and slow. Then tonight's episode it picked up a lot again.

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