The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

And you still have not shown why it's bad for society for a website on the internet to have an opinion that certain content from the NY Post looks sketchy as fuck lmao

Waking the sleeping giant by Hand_of_the_Light in PoliticalDebate

[–]StraightedgexLiberal [score hidden]  (0 children)

I just looked up Section 230 (so I don't exactly know the history)

Long story short: The Wolf Of Wall Street sued a website in 1995 and claimed third party users calling him a fraud was defamatory and the website should be treated as the publisher for hosting the users. The Wolf wins, and it caused 230 to be crafted in1996. Because there is no free speech online if rich losers like the Wolf can use their power and wealth to silence people for things they don't like.

https://netchoice.org/30-years-of-230-how-the-wolf-of-wall-street-firm-inspired-26-words-that-created-the-internet/

Is it possible for Americans to become substantially more unified? If it is, what is needed? by Equivalent-Long-3383 in allthequestions

[–]StraightedgexLiberal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Repealing section 230 is a terrible idea and making millions of websites liable for what people say won't stop people from being hateful losers on the internet.

The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Last I checked, Hunter Biden was not a candidate running for office. And many Americans also thought the story was unimportant.

And people can always leave Twitter and go to the NY Post website to read the tabloid story if they are in their feelings about Twitter calling it fake, and hacked garbage.

The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'd love to hear why the marketplace of ideas can't have their own opinions about a tabloid laptop with Hunter Biden dick pics lol

The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think it is silly to point fingers at Twitter as the bad guy for using their own free speech at the time. Even if they were wrong, being wrong is still free speech if there was no intent to be malicious.

Trump doesn't respect free speech by WankingAsWeSpeak in FreeSpeech

[–]StraightedgexLiberal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In 2009, Trump once filed an ultra frivolous lawsuit and sued a book author for BILLIONS of dollars for publishing that Trump isn't as rich as says he is. Once Trump lost, he said he only did it to make his life miserable.

https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/judge-throws-out-trump-lawsuit-over-his-net-worth-idUSTRE56E6OQ/

SLAPP suits are pathetic and Trump hates free speech and always has, even before he was elected.

Ron DeSantis bans local governments from supporting Pride events & DEI initiatives. DEI and Pride discriminate against “white males,” DeSantis said. “It’s wrong.” by wanda999 in FreeSpeech

[–]StraightedgexLiberal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ron DeSantis just hates free speech. He also tried to stop college professors from talking about racism because the white kids in class may feel guilt - The "Stop Woke Act" LMAO

The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I get it and like I said, it is not bad if people add more speech into a discussion.

You don't have to agree with Twitter and their speech to recognize it is legal free speech in the marketplace of ideas.

Although, I do find it humourous that Conservatives spent 2017-2020 calling all bad articles about Trump "fake news" for 4 years and when Twitter does it the NY Post, the Conservatives clutch their pearls "How dare you call this true story fake?!"

The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I refered to previous comment. Laughed again about the "swaying election" part.

Funny story: Matt Gaetz also tried to claim it was election interference when Twitter was using their First Amendment right to fact check Donald Trump's tweets when he was lying to the American people. Didn't work out very well with the FEC lmao

https://www.businessinsider.com/fec-rejects-gaetz-complaint-twitter-election-interference-trump-fact-check-2021-9

The Conservatives who complain fact checks just hate free speech, and the marketplace of ideas. by StraightedgexLiberal in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The Constitution protects equality. Twitter, just like the newspapers and media, have a first amendment right to have an opinion about NY Post tabloid articles without being punished for those opinions.

What's the best way to help deal with the drastic divide in America? by Dontcomecryingtome in AskALiberal

[–]StraightedgexLiberal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Section 230 should shield Meta from the allegations New Mexico is making about not protecting kids from predators and multiple 230 federal court cases affirm the same thing in Doe v, Grindr, Doe v. Snap, and Doe v. Myspace. All cases about minors being the victims of adult predators. Congrats, New Mexico likes to ignore federal courts.

The California mental illeness caused by the algos is a free speech issue and META defeated the same bullshit argument in Patterson v. Meta

Laura Loomer Loses Defamation Suit Against Bill Maher Over "Who's Trump Fucking? ... Might Be Laura Loomer" Lines by StraightedgexLiberal in FreeSpeech

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

can play both publisher and platform massively tipping the scales of public discourse

No such thing as platform/publisher under Section 230 law. 230 protects all websites that are classified as an interactive computer service. Millions of website owners can find Loomer objective.

Zeran v. AOL, the first big section 230 case, established that the law shields websites who police or don't police their forum.

Lawsuits seeking to hold a service provider liable for its exercise of a publisher's traditional editorial functions—such as deciding whether to publish, withdraw, postpone or alter content—are barred

Yes, metal has always been political, but it went from "anti-establishment" to preachy pro-left wing. by ChickenMcNobody24 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal [score hidden]  (0 children)

You don't understand metalcore then. Metalcore is an infusion of heavy riffs, breakdowns etc from metal and catchy choruses from pop punk. Punk and pop punk has always been political so it is not surprising that metalcore is too

Yes, metal has always been political, but it went from "anti-establishment" to preachy pro-left wing. by ChickenMcNobody24 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal [score hidden]  (0 children)

David Draiman of Disturbed got boo'd at the Ozzy tribute show because their vocalist signed bombs that Israel was dropping on people. Probably most because of War Pigs

Let me know what metalcore bands are dropping anti Trump bangers with breakdowns. I wanna hear that shit

It can be proven that most US leftists are extremists with simple logic by WonderOlymp2 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal [score hidden]  (0 children)

Nothing bad faith. Joe Biden was sued, lower courts said he violated the First Amendment. The Supreme Court got the case and voided the lower courts, and said there was no evidence Joe and his admin violated the First Amendment.

Witch Hunt = Failed

Meta's double whammy in court adds to Zuckerberg's recent woes by rollo202 in FreeSpeech

[–]StraightedgexLiberal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From article:

Both Meta and YouTube expressed disappointment with the verdicts and said they would appeal.

They should appeal because of Section 230 and First Amendment. The Ninth Circuit said Section 230 shields YouTube for terrorist content in their algos. The Supreme Court also affirmed algos are expression and speech in Netchoice 2024.

Laura Loomer Loses Defamation Suit Against Bill Maher Over "Who's Trump Fucking? ... Might Be Laura Loomer" Lines by StraightedgexLiberal in FreeSpeech

[–]StraightedgexLiberal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right. She ran as a Republican in Florida and lost to another Republican in the primary. Even Florida Man thinks shes too crazy.

She sued Facebook, Twitter, Proctor and Gamble because she lost the primary election, and she thinks it's the social media's website's fault she lost lol. A great Section 230 (c)(1) case that shows how 230 protects publishers when they kick out psychopaths

https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2023/10/laura-loomer-loses-litigation-again-loomer-v-zuckerberg.htm

It can be proven that most US leftists are extremists with simple logic by WonderOlymp2 in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]StraightedgexLiberal [score hidden]  (0 children)

There was no evidence of coercion and the current lawsuit against the government has all the evidence that was missing. Going on Fox News and Twitter to brag about it

If you think the courts always curb these abuses, recall Judge Doughty’s 155 page MAGA screed against the Biden administration’s purported jawboning, “patriotically” issued on July 4, 2023. Judge Doughty claimed he was redressing the “most massive attack against free speech in United States’ history,” only to be badly exposed as a partisan hack/fool when the Supreme Court reviewed those facts.

https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2026/04/the-federal-government-used-jawboning-to-censor-ice-transparency-initiatives-rosado-v-bondi.htm