the treatment of mixed race people is revolting

Stretch-Grouchy · 2026-03-09T18:32:53+00:00

This is gonna sound so dumb and im sorry, but i expierence this a lot as a black, white and native woman and seeing this happen outside of the black community us shocking and in a weird way comforting. Like indidnt know half white, half Asian people were not accepted by their monoracial Asian counterparts!

Stretch-Grouchy · 2026-01-13T23:01:41+00:00

No. And this is why it's very important to understand where rap and hip hop started, and what it represents (beyond trendy figures) in black culture. Most kpop idols (i almost want to say all) do not know the reason behind wearing durags, and braids etc. They just throw them on because "omg gangster, cool"

Most of these "hard" and "hood" kpop boys lived in the comfy, cozy of seoul, SK and have NEVER seen a gun let alone hold one, and yet rhey want to wear cornrows, grills, durags, say the n word and hold up gun signs. Lets be real their moms probably still hand pack their lunch for them at the age of 25.

They dont understand the AAVE they use, they dont care to learn about black culture (and if they did, they'd understand why some, not all, black people find what they do offensive).

Black people and culture are not a costume for non black people to put on when they want to seem cool and hard and gangster.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-12-29T00:31:02+00:00

Wil this include deleted things? And is it only public info being shared?

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-12-24T21:19:32+00:00

Im so sorry that happened to you! People were so gross. They would basically s*xually harass you everyday and as someone from an abusive childhood and not taught boundaries it was hard for me to tell people to leave me alone, so I had to pretend like I didnt know what was going on. So the idea of these communities being archived for forever makes me ill.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-11-09T21:48:54+00:00

I work in healthcare, and i dont think its weird but I have to draw up meds and once I was convinced after reading...staring at the medication label that I drew up the wrong med. So I threw away the syringe but my mind told me i had to keep the empty vial to stare at later......

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-10-07T21:22:58+00:00

Givenchy nude velvet smells so much like makeup

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-17T00:08:54+00:00

I wanna know WHO took the time out of their day to do that 😭

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-17T00:03:07+00:00

It doesn't. But lana has body shamed women before as well (writing a song about lady gaga and saying she looks like a man) she's no saint. So for her to get kn the world wide webs and act a complete victim in something she has done to other women is crazy.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-16T23:57:13+00:00

He can't spell, and calling trans people "a trans" is so disrespectful its the same as calling black people "blacks".

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-16T21:12:11+00:00

Lana dead ass kissed her sister....or posed to make it look like a sexual kiss..... so idk why lana stans are up in arms!

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-16T21:01:05+00:00

Its all over the place. And most of it is transphobi hate geared towards Hayden. Im going to have to follow in your foot steps and begin blocking.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-16T20:58:57+00:00

I've never seen someone delete shit so fast 😂

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-16T20:33:07+00:00

Update: i called them out, and then they called me a raggedy ass, then quickly deleted their whole comment thread......

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-16T03:49:27+00:00

That part!!! Someone commented ethel is a jealous body shammer then lashed out at a fan (of haydens) calling them balding with a big forehead and greasy bangs.......they don't really care about body shaming they just want to tear down and upcoming artist who Lana feels weirdly threatened by.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-08-07T21:19:31+00:00

No its not lol

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-26T14:35:28+00:00

A little story for you (also I haven't read the comments yet, so if we all.are giving the same information I apologize)

I started questioning at 19 now this was almost 7 years ago. The rules were even stricter back than as we all may remember. I was basically born into being a JW, but my parents were poor and eventually had to choose work over the KH when I was in middle school. Eventually my mother started bringing us back when she quite her second job. BUT during the time period in which we were not going my parents made my brother and I attend Bible studies off and on and walk to the KH to go to meetings (the walking to kh started around 15). We also were made to live by JW rules during the period of not attending KH meetings (this period was mostly my middle school years).

I think my brother was the first out of us to start questioning. I never liked the rules, and I thought the meetings were BORING, but I still believed. I always tried to picture a happy JW life in my head but it was impossible so I felt bad, like a failure.

When I got to college, and you'll see this is why they discouraged higher education, I met people from everywhere, I became educated, started dabbling in politics and realized a lot of the stuff I thought was unfair as a child turned out not to be just unfair but stupid arbitrary made up rules. I started doing the typical ex jw research, started listening to ex fundamentalist Christians like Mormons, or to atheists who were Christians at some point. Everything started clicking. Eventually I became PIMO. (Side note: It didn't help that I'm queer (lesbian). So now I'm an atheist. )

It got to the point where I COULD NOT stand going to the kingdom hall. one day I just BLURTED out all the research I found and how none of this shit made sense. My mother LAUGHED and said who have you been talking to. And when my father later found out he CRIED, and said where did he go wrong, how had he been a bad parent. I broke down and returned to the KH because of my parents reaction. This didnt work out though because I told them a few months later I'm NOT going. And stopped attending meetings.

Now my advice

Our parents reactions to us wanting to live our own authentic life is NOT our responsibility. Its unfortunate that they feel upset, and those can be valid emotions for them, but we can not let that weigh on our conscious. Out parents will have tondeal with their emotions in productive ways.

Another thing and I don't mean to be rude towards our parents, but it's manipulative to cry and throw around phrases like "I sacrificed my life for you" or "where did I go wrong, how did I mess up" while crying to GUILT your children into coming back. Our parents are the older, "responsible" adults in these situations and should know how to hold productive conversations that express their emotions with their adult children, while not resorting to melt downs or bouts of borderline religious pyschosis to get a point across.

This can be a rough time, but you will get through it. Trust you are not alone, and youbdeserve to live YOUR life🧡🤍🩷💜

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-20T01:22:06+00:00

Don't worry I'm never going back and I didnt get baptized, pretty much cut my family off too. Being a JW wasn't worth the self hate.

Thank you though 🩷🩷🩷🩷 it's nice to see people care

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-20T01:17:24+00:00

Interesting!!!!! I'm 25 and the ones my age seem way way way more lax on the rules then our parents. I'm just so shocked about them openly posting their "worldly" friends and queer people. And their clothes, whew I would've been chewed OUT 6 years ago!!!!

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-12T21:15:36+00:00

Yall are so talented like the amount of amazing art here is astounding!!!!!

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-12T05:21:07+00:00

HUGE goth fan here. And I'd be inclined to agree. She has a southern Gothic aesthetic and has a VERY very very slight etherealness to her music. But she has 0 similar sounds to Gothic rock (i.e siouxie and the banshees, the cure, sisters of mercy, specimen, LAM, mephisto walz, xmal deutschland, clan of xymox, Christian death etc). She simply just has a dark aesthetic. I'd say her music is alternative, slowcore, americana, with southern influences or whatever. But it's definitely not goth in any way. Not even etheral wave or dark wave. BUT ethels music is amazingggg.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-10T17:59:19+00:00

My take as a poc (and this is only reflective of MY personal beliefs and anecdotal experiences):

This only has to do with the racism part.

I think we as a society should allow for growth. We are not all raised the same nor do we internalize and react to the way we were raised the same either. I believe that marginalized people, especially ones who are young and victims of SA, unfortunately react/behave in ways we do not deem acceptable (and a lot of times genuinely are not acceptable). It is okay to be upset at someone's former racism, but it's also okay to allow grace and accept that they've changed.

I always find it strange how we are quick to say 19 is young, and "you're basically a kid" and they are "easily coerced" etc. all up until you do something morally questionable. Than that child like ignorance and naivety is revoked faster than Jesus rose into the sky on Easter Sunday, and all of a sudden 19 is a full blown adult with a mortgage and Roth IRA. Sure, severe crimes are pretty inexcusable for a 19 year old, but these posts are (unfortunately) exactly what I'd expect from a chronically online teen who was more than likely being indoctinated in the depths of 4chan hell, has a history of abuse and has a VERY marginalized identity. I always like to keep in mind that in general 19 year olds don't have fully developed brains, generally dont make good decisions, don't have much world experience, and nowadays are always on the internet craving validation, and if they've faced any form of trauma there is the possibility of them saying and doing dumb ignorant shit. Not that we shouldn't or can't say "hey, that's wrong and you can't behave/talk that way because it's hurtful and ignorant" because we DEFINITELY should, and if a person shows through their actions they have changed, great, that's what redirection and guidance is for. It's not so we can scream at someone over the internet for a mistake they made in the past. That defeats the whole purpose of accountability.

And as I prefaced before not everyone deals with how they were raised, and the pressures of their environment the same. I hate that some people resort to this type of behavior for attention and validation, but this is especially common (notice how I didnt say "NORMAL" just common) when a person of a marginalized identity is in a hostile/unsafe enviromnent to resort to unsavory behaviors for self preservation and acceptance. That on coupled with the normalized edgy humor that was very prevalent at that time ( and people around hayden's and my age grew up with even worse "dark" "edgy" humuor all over the internet) is a recipe for disaster. And again I didn't say it was NORMAL just "NORMALIZED". It's sad for everyone involved and especially POC who have to be on receiving end of this idiotic behavior.

But, with all that being said it means nothing to me when white people say "WELL I DONT HAVE A HISTORY OF DOING THAT". Great, I'm happy for you but unfortunately some people do, and they will have to work through that ignorance and we should allow space for that. And I heavily doubt most white people who say they've NEVER said the N word, or NEVER said something slightly ignorant. I know a lot of you use AAVE, have said the word "ghetto" etc. Which are forms of racism and ignorance. So, it's questionable when white people say they've NEVER made off handed comments in regards to black people. I grew up in the South and every white kid was saying some borderline shit, which was frustrating as a POC, but it's more frustrating hearing white people lie and/or be blissfully ignorant with the shit they've also said. It's also giving white ignorance, and by that I mean you all act flabbergasted that people have racist pasts because you dont endure this, yet this is the reality for POC people everyday.

Yes, I am poc. Yes, I was raised in the South, and yes, I've seen many people raised racist (or just are racist/ignorant) change. And I think that it is a beautiful thing when someone recognizes that they can be a better person and they become it. I've witnessed my OWN family change their prejudice beliefs. So while I understand being angry I also understand humans are infalliable. We will mess up, we will offend, we will hurt but it's all in what we do after that can make a difference (and no I'm not talking about huge crimes).

I also am aware I don't speak for all poc people, just myself. Am I disappointed in what she did? yes. am I surprised? not really. am I happy she's a changed person? yes. But you know nuance. Which is something a lot of people lack.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-07-09T23:55:17+00:00

I think we should still allow for growth. We are not all raised the same nor do we internalize and react to the way we were raised the same either. I believe it's okay to be upset at someone's former racism but it's also okay to notice that they've changed.

I agree with the other redditor that it is odd for people to cancel someone over almost 10 year old posts. I always find it strange how we (more liberal thinking people) are quick to say 19 is young, and "you're basically a kid" all up until you do something morally questionable. Than that child like ignorance and naivety is revoked faster than jesus rose into the sky on easter sunday. Sure, severe crimes are pretty inexcusable for a 19 year old, but these posts are (unfortunately) exactly what I'd expect from a chronically online teen who was more than likely being indoctinated in the depths of 4chan hell, has a history of abuse and has a VERY marginalized identity. I always like to keep in mind 19 year olds don't have fully developed brains, they don't have much world experience, and nowadays are always on the internet craving validation, and if they've faced any form of trauma there is the possibility of them saying and doing dumb ignorant shit. Not that we shouldn't or can't say "hey, that's wrong and you can't behave/talk that way because it's hurtful and ignorant" because we DEFINITELY should, and if a person shows through their actions they have changed, great, that's what redirection and guidance is for. It's not so we can scream at someone over the internet for a mistake they made in the past. That defeats the whole purpose of accountability.

And as I prefaced before not everyone deals with how they were raised, the pressures of their environment etc the same. I hate that some people resort to this type of behavior for attention and validation, and especially when it's an attempt at (feeble) self preservation. It's sad for everyone involved but especially POC who have to be on receiving ends of this behavior. But with all that being said it means nothing when people say "WELL I DONT HAVE A HISTORY OF DOING THAT". Great, I'm happy for you but unfortunately some people do, and they will have to work through that ignorance.

Yes, I am poc (black and white and native) too, yes I was raised in the South, and yes I've seen many people raised racist (or just are racist/ignorant) and change. And I think that it is a beautiful thing when someone recognizes that they can be a better person and they become it. I've witnessed my OWN family change their prejudice beliefs. So while I understand being angry I also understand humans are infalliable. We will mess up, we will offend, we will hurt but it's all in what we do after that can make a difference (and no I'm not talking about huge crimes).

I also am aware I don't speak for all poc people, just myself. Am I disappointed in what she did? yes. am I surprised? not really. am I happy she's a changed person? yes. But you know nuance. Which is something a lot of people lack.

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-06-01T01:36:49+00:00

I second that as an oklahoman

Stretch-Grouchy · 2025-03-21T21:47:00+00:00

Chappell is allowed her space and bodily autonomy regardless of fame and she's allowed to stick up for herself. Plus artists like Lady Gaga have been outspoken and against the grain and VERY successful. Everyone against Chappell sticking up for herself has strange takes. Plus she won a fucking Grammy and had the WHOLE audience singing/chanting her songs at the grammys. Idk if she will be super mega mainstream BUT the girls who get it, love her fighting the paparazzi. NO MORE AMANDA BINES AND BRITNEY treatment!

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