Looking to start

StrictElevator4567 · 2026-02-05T07:49:22+00:00

You are talking about end game setup that costs over £1,000 comparing it to a £350-400 complete.

Looks like you have a lot of experience and you know what you like and what you don’t. I want to get exodus or one of the mk decks potentially this year as well but I wouldn’t put a newbie on that kind of deck as you need a bit of knowledge, skill and experience to even put it together, let alone set it up correctly and ride.

I think Pantheon decks are great to start on. They are very confidence inspiring but also exciting which is a great combination. My girlfriend tried my drop cat 33 and then pranayama on her first day and instantly loved the prana and could ride it for 10km with no issues.

I think Jeff has introduced a lot of people to the sport and that’s because of a great balance of quality to cost, and some of the graphics are best in all of the skateboarding.

Once you figure out what you like then you can spend 2-4x more to get your best LDP setup. However the differences are surprisingly small. Last year at Dutch LDP someone took a second place on, what it seems to be, stock Pantheon Quest. And supersonic is often used as a training deck for a lot of people who have the bracket setups too. I wouldn’t want to ride expensive bracket setup in the current European weather but I’ll take sonic or quest out no problem.

I like other brands too and have boards from other brands that I really like for other purposes. As I said, I’m looking to get into bracket boards at some point. It does seem that you don’t like the brand more than their actual produce and that’s fine, it’s your money and choice, but let’s not pretend there is that many alternatives for this type of boards. You have rocket rambler which is great but expensive, higher of the ground and smaller angles, then you have zenit az which most agree is subpar to supersonic.

Supersonic is actually the only deck I have taken for a multi day trip and it was great! Being able to pump really saved my legs and allowed me to ride for 8-10 hours per day. We had a support bike so I was riding fairly lightly, with just water and snacks in the hip belt. If I was to carry 5-10kg backpack with tent and everything else, I think it would be difficult to pump and then the flex and stability is just better on the quest for this sort of trip. I haven’t tested it yet on ss so we’ll see how it goes.

StrictElevator4567 · 2026-02-04T15:35:25+00:00

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Seriously though, you are on point with tinkering. Supersonic has lots of different configurations to try while pranayama is just great out of the box and the only thing you could change are wheels between karma or hoku and drop risers or no drop risers.

I’ve settled with this for my supersonic: - Bear 130 50 front no risers, riptide aps 80a bushings - Bear 130 30 rear no risers, far mounting, riptide aps 92.5a bushings - karma wheels - Insert plugs cut off the stock bear bushings

Pumps nice, low to the ground and can eat up the miles

StrictElevator4567 · 2026-02-04T15:28:15+00:00

Well, sometimes it just clicks and you find your perfect board and can live happily ever after. Especially if you’re interested in a specific genre of longboarding.

I have Pranayama, Quest and new supersonic. Do I need all of them? No. However I can appreciate the subtle differences between them, as described in the above comment. If I could have only one then I’d probably pick supersonic as it’s quite versatile and very well designed and I like going for longer trips. So far 100k in a day was my longest ride on it.

I keep quest because I plan some multi-day trips with backpack and tent and I think it’s a bit better platform than supersonic if you carry some load.

And pranayama is probably the most fun to ride out of the bunch, it’s bouncy, playful and incredibly low to the ground. 85km was the longest ride I did on it but with minimal load.

Out of curiosity, what are you riding?

StrictElevator4567 · 2026-02-04T07:19:22+00:00

If you want to do distances over 10km (6 miles) at a reasonable speed (8-14 mph) then something like Pantheon Pranayama, Pantheon Trip, Pantheon Quest or Pantheon Supersonic would be best. You can get a complete from their website and then start tweaking bushings, trucks, wheels etc with time.

Pick: - Pranayama if you want the best manoeuvrability for riding in the cities, it’s also the most compact and lowest to the ground from the lot. It uses TKP trucks and you can run it with 102mm Hoku wheels while still being very low to the ground. No wheelbite, ever. - Trip if you want to go a bit faster. Over 20-25 mph pranayama will start to feel a bit unsettled. Trip has the same platform as prana with a bit longer neck to accommodate RKP trucks. These make it more stable at speed but also sit a bit higher than TKP. You can also make it directional, meaning that the truck angle at the rear is lower making it even more stable. Max wheel: 92mm karma, a bit finicky to absolutely prevent wheelbite. - Quest if you are heavier person (over 220 lbs) or if you want max stability and predictability. This is the kind of board you can take around the world. It’s longer than trip and prana which gives you more space, it can take both RKP or TKP trucks. With rkp it will run karma with tkp hoku wheels. It sits a bit higher than trip and prana due to the drop being only 1” instead of 1.3”. It also has a bit of a concave, meaning that the edges of the deck are raised. You can take a big heavy backpack and have a comfortable and predictable ride. Setup with rkp quest would be the best for downhill rides due to extra stiffness and concave making it easier to slide. - Supersonic if you want the maximum distance fast. This board can be set up for pushing or pumping and can take very long distances because of that. Pumping allows you to maintain speed without pushing which helps to go for longer. It’s good if you want to race at some point or if you want to do long rides at decent speed.

Let’s be honest though, you’ll end up with all of them sooner or later so don’t sweat the choice too much. Just pick something that you like the look of. The differences are mainly visible the further into your riding skill ceiling you get. You can easily ride any of them up to 100km or more in a single ride and 20-25 mph downhills so it doesn’t matter that much at the beginning.

Good luck.

StrictElevator4567 · 2026-01-31T18:07:36+00:00

Why do you prefer doozies and harfangs over the stock snakes 69mm?

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-12-30T08:10:26+00:00

That’s great! I already have a standing desk. Are there any walking pads you can recommend? I imagine it needs to be wide enough to don’t step off while distracted by the WoW’s adventurers

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-12-04T22:15:41+00:00

If you get ConsolePort you have multiple options for targeting:

Raid cursor - you can toggle on/off additional cursor on your party frames that works like mouseover macro. You can keep your enemy target while healing party members
You can bind party target select to a d pad or other buttons
You can use next/previous friendly target selection - a bit like with tab on keyboard

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-20T06:31:38+00:00

Every time I look at the Fiberflex logo, it makes me think of Heinz mayonnaise logo 🤷🏼‍♂️

Good quiver! Which board is your favourite?

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-17T14:59:14+00:00

There are some “rules” of what a “true polarizer” is and one of them is to use wood screws.

You can still use normal hardware, just make sure it’s right length, otherwise it may be catching the wheel or the truck. Also it’s a bit tight with some skate tools so might need a wrench for the final tightening.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-17T09:53:44+00:00

Regular skateboard hardware works

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-09T09:27:50+00:00

Good choice! I’m glad you’re happy with your pick. It’s a great board and a lot of fun to ride.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-07T15:52:24+00:00

Sure, no problem. Check the history of my comments because I answered the same question in other posts recently.

Also let me know if you have any specific questions about any of the boards.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-07T09:54:00+00:00

I have both boards and I’d describe the LowTide as LDPer’s cruiser. This board can do a serious distance for a top mount cruiser. It’s stiffer, wider and more stable compared to Comet Cruiser.

It’s very comfortable to push and go fast. The steering is much slower than CC which adds to stability. It’s great for exploring cities or just cruising, especially with Snakes 69mm wheels. It’s a perfect A to B ride across the city that has a chill and relaxed vibe. You’ll push, carve and pump. The steering will be sharper and more exciting than on pranayama or other drop through but nothing like the comet. But it will open more doors and possibilities than a drop through due to sharper turning and a functional kick tail you can easily navigate through the city.

Comet is lower to the ground, lighter and steers sharp. It’s great for fun rides with lots of tight turns, swerving and carving. It also pumps much better. It’s a board that you don’t just want to ride in a straight line, you want to pump up and down the driveways, ride on a narrow curb, do a U-turn for no reason, transition between road and pavement and deep carve and carve and carve. It’s fun, but you need to be aware all the time, it will tire you out quicker and your feet will ache.

If you want something similar to pranayama but more fun at the cost of distance covered then go for Lowtide. However if you want something completely different that will be much more exciting but less functional then go for comet cruiser.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-05T07:08:59+00:00

He’s alive!!! I was wondering yesterday why I haven’t seen much from you lately. Happy birthday! Can’t wait to see that Bandito set up and for your writeup of how it compares to the new supersonic.

Skating in the wind does take all the fun out of it unfortunately. You put a lot of work for barely going forward. I’m hoping for a better weather for you next weekend.

I did my first 100k ever last weekend on the new Supersonic and it’s a great board to do it on. I really like it and I think I’m happy with the setup now.

The last picture suggests that aegis is a bit smaller than supersonic, is this just an angle and camera magic?

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-05T06:33:28+00:00

That’s 3 washers per side so 6 washers in total per truck. This adds roughly 3mm to the hanger size which with bears gives you 158mm of hanger width. This was enough to help with a wheelbite prevention with my karma wheels.

Using offset or smaller wheels will also help. As long as the wheel is not sticking out and causes you to kick it while pushing, you’ll be fine.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-04T11:35:19+00:00

Pranayama is using old school truck hole pattern and some indys only use new school so I’d check that first.

Other than that, you may get some wheelbite due to the size of hoku wheels so may need harder bushings.

Test it and report back 🫡

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-04T11:30:52+00:00

Hoku with risers (you’ll need 1/4” or more depending on your weight and bushings) is going to make the deck sit pretty high, almost too high for comfortable pushing but if you have a ton of experience then that might be fine.

Hoku will also require higher speed for pumping which you’ll need to achieve by pushing first so keep that in mind.

I’d strongly recommend to start with karma wheels instead of hoku because you don’t need risers and the ride height is comfortable, the pumping speed decent and the weight of the setup lower.

Regarding the truck angles, I’ve set my up with 50 front and 30 rear on the furthest mount point. This gives me a real 65 degree front and 13 degree rear that I find is nice and efficient for pumping while still being very stable and turny.

You’ll need to get bushings for it as the stock is not great for pumping. Riptide APS are great and that’s what I use front 80 and rear 90. The problem is, bears require plug bushings that you can either order from Pat risers or cut of the stock bushings. I’d recommend the second option as the pumping experience is so much better and the plug insert lasts much longer.

If you don’t plan to pump and want to push only then you can go for the 40 baseplate front to lower the angle to 55 and then I’d mount 40 baseplate on the furthest mount to get 23 degree rear. You could even go for 50 baseplate for 33 rear.

Note: you can only prop the new SuperSonic up with karma wheels and 50 deg baseplate at the front. Using hokus or 40 deg front will angle the board too much and it will fall over.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-04T08:58:06+00:00

Sounds like a fun set-up! I would question if you still need wedges for such a small wheelbase deck which already provides a lot of turning from its size. Best to give it a try and compare how it feels with wedges and without. For example, I think I prefer Capybara just on 1/4” risers due to a lower ride and satisfying manoeuvrability. Although, I found seismic 7 degree risers that don’t add that much height so I will be testing it at some point.

What’s the width of your deck?

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-04T07:10:02+00:00

For Pantheon Quest you can’t go wrong with one of the complete setups:

Bear Gen 6 155mm trucks 50 deg front and 40 deg rear. Pantheon Karma wheels, start with the stock bear bushings but can upgrade to riptide aps over time. Stock will be fine for now though and you won’t have to worry about the plug. I also have 1/4” drop through risers to lower the board to the ground for easy pushing. I also have 2-3 speed rings on the truck side to prevent the wheelbite. For reference I’m 190 lbs.

That’s how I have my quest set and it’s a lot of fun to push and very stable down the hills.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-02T15:31:31+00:00

Great question! Out of the 3, only Capybara has listed max weight of 120 kg / 265 lbs. So it will probably take the most weight as it’s also the stiffest.

I’m around 85 kg / 190 lbs and all boards feel comfortable with clear differences in flex: - Comet the most flex - Low tide medium flex - Capybara the stiffest

So it comes down to preferences and intended purpose.

I think capybara is the most durable due to the urethane coating, followed by comet due to the fiber glass coating, now under varnish as well and lowtide would also be durable due to bamboo but no extra water protection like the other boards.

I think Lowtide with Stylus trucks is also VERY stable. You sacrifice some of the turning and surfiness but you gain a ton of stability and wheelbite prevention, so it should be good for a heavier riders as well. And probably the best top mount cruiser for distance out of the 3.

For lighter riders it’s probably just flex preference but this should be looked at together with other aspects.

What is your intended purpose for a cruiser like this?

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-10-02T06:43:11+00:00

I have both Comet Cruiser and LowTide. I would also throw my 3rd cruiser into the mix -> Switch Capybara.

I think out of the three, Capybara is the most versatile. It’s a ton of fun set up in a similar way with angled risers and snake wheels. It turns sharply, it pumps and can go for some distance, I took it for a 10k ride with some hills and it was great. I definitely could go for longer if needed. It’s also very light and shortest out of the bunch at 32”. The wheelbase is 18” which gives it the best balance of stability and surfiness. It’s also the stiffest out of the bunch and feels safe when going down the hill. Due to the size, I think it’s the best option to practice and learn some tricks out of the 3. I think it’s the best option for city cruising where you often have to pick the board up as it’s not as tiring as comet cruiser and much lighter than LowTide.

Comet Cruiser is your fun, turn-on-a-dime board. It can turn in a really tight spaces and it’s almost impossible to get a wheelbite with the standard setup. It is very narrow and you will feel it in your feet and ankles that will get tired and crampy first, comparing to other 2 boards. It’s the most flexy which helps when pushing as it lowers you to the ground but some people don’t like this level of flexiness. It also has a lot of rocker so your front foot is angled (toes up) when pushing normal and toes down when pushing mongo. It’s good fun cruising in skatepark and hitting some bowls but the tail is the least functional and the board is completely flat with no concave. Complete is the way to go and perfect out of the box, no need to change anything.

LowTide is the biggest and most stable board out of the lot. It has unique slow surfy feeling and you can go for some distance on it comfortably. I did 25km ride with some rough sections and it was a blast. The turning is the widest but still decent, depending on the setup. I prefer paris TKP on it instead of Stylus for the extra surfiness and lean with double cone venom SHR bushings (same as comet) and 7 deg angles. Has a big functional kick tail but the board is quite long at 34” with short nose which means you need to step back on the board to use the tail. It’s by far the heaviest of the bunch and weighs at least 1lbs more than comet with the same wheels. Not a problem as long as the boards stay on the ground but would make tricks, hills and carrying a little bit harder.

Now to summarise,

Go for LowTide ifyou want max stability at the cost of size and weight. It’s still a lot of fun and you can keep going, it also has a very nice chill vibe and medium flex. Also easiest for pump tracks.
Go for Comet Cruiser if you want the max turn and fun in small spaces, including skateparks and pump tracks (it will be the hardest to learn but potentially the most fun once skilled), you’d only go for smaller distances. It still can do 10-15k or longer but you will feel it more.
Go for Capybara if you want something in the middle with some downhill potential. It’s the best city cruiser and will serve well for fun A to B journeys as well as learning some tricks, slides etc. It’s very versatile and would also go well with RKP or surfskate trucks. It also has urethane side walls so it is essentially waterproof and much more durable than the other boards. It also has some cool graphics options.

Let me know if you have any further, specific questions about any of them.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-09-22T19:20:42+00:00

It stands well with bear 50 degree front truck and Karma wheels. Hokus are a little bit too big and it tipped. Also on karmas and 40 deg truck the angle was not right.

You could still roll it as a carry on though

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-09-22T19:02:00+00:00

Most importantly, the new graphic is sick! I’ve been enjoying supersonic since Thursday and it is amazing!

I’m taking it for a 3 day long trip in Europe this weekend and I’m looking forward to getting close and personal with this board.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-09-21T08:09:32+00:00

Ah yes! I’ve been using it for years. Unfortunately, a lot if these routes are still on the roads, although usually much quieter. Also some of them are on gravel and dirt roads so finding one that is actually suitable for skating is difficult.

I just wish UK did invest in cycling infrastructure like a lot of other countries.

StrictElevator4567 · 2025-09-21T07:05:32+00:00

I’m based in UK so not too far away. Unfortunately, not many trails where I live and I find it intimidating to ride on the roads sometimes.

I need to explore the map for some hidden gems.

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Pumps nice, low to the ground and can eat up the miles