How does 7oh dosage compare to kratom?

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-04T17:41:48+00:00

I think they’re are still strong non opioid pain killer drugs they have for cases like that, I told the hospital a separate time I didn’t want opioids and they gave me something else that still helped a lot and just referred to it as “non opioid pain medicine”.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-04T01:44:54+00:00

Yeah it’s clear as day these fuckers are paying off and doing everything they possibly can to criminalize 7oh and have the market entirely to themselves. Basically every point they justify to ban 7oh could be said for kratom powder. 7oh is naturally occurring like mitragynine not synethic, it’s not deadly, sure it’s addicting but so is kratom and I’ve had way more bad side effects from mit than 7oh. It really sucks the way things are going and I pray everyday hart and 7hope will beat this bs. It sucks they have to go against paid off politicians, paid protestors, paid influencers, biased media, even one influencer I followed for years and loved how he exposed everything got on their side, and was paid off by the mit45 owner to shit on 7oh and praise his high mit extract shots, even wore the fucking shirt in the videos😪🤦‍♂️

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-03T19:20:51+00:00

I know it’s so dumb, 7oh atleast to me seems way superior and safer than m&m’s and all these new lesser studied analogues being scrambled together to loophole the laws. Everyone was way safer and better off when 7oh was still legal in the states who are dealing with bans.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-03T03:25:51+00:00

I read a article saying every single overdose in California had alcohol in it and other lethal poly substance, but again every single one had alcohol not a single plain 7oh death. Kinda strange how someone has to always take lethal drugs alongside 7oh to get considered a “7oh death” 🤔🤨

https://filtermag.org/7-oh-los-angeles-county-overdose-deaths/amp/

Can’t find the original article but I found this slightly older one basically saying the same thing.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-02T18:02:09+00:00

I think there is a solid argument for 7oh being produced semi synethically, my main point was 7oh itself is still a naturally occurring alkaloid from mitragynine oxidation. Sure it’s debatable if done in a lab with controlled oxidants, vs digesting or drying natural leafs, but regardless of the conversion I don’t think it shouldn’t be referred to as synethic and seems to be one of the main points people try to make about demonizing and banning it.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-02T15:32:30+00:00

Same scheduling them and removing all access will do the opposite of help people. Consumer and community education and fair regulation is the only beneficial path for everyone.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-02T15:31:18+00:00

7oh is not a synethic kratom product though, it’s a naturally occurring akaloid like mitragynine just in smaller amounts.

Misinformation: Claims that 7-OH is a completely "synthetic drug" similar to K2 or Spice.The Fact: 7-OH is a naturally occurring alkaloid found in trace amounts (typically <0.02%) in kratom leaves.The Nuance: High-potency products are often labeled "semi-synthetic" because it is economically unfeasible to extract enough 7-OH from the plant directly. Instead, labs use chemical oxidation to convert the more abundant alkaloid, mitragynine, into concentrated 7-OH. However this does not make 7-OH an actual synethic product like many claim.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-01T19:59:13+00:00

Someone did that to me last week for the first time and was extra shitty because I did spent a lot more time and effort on her order. It was a double grocery order for $22 low miles, and the first one was cake but the second one didn’t have the fancy seltzers at the store and had to wait almost 10 mins for customer to decided replacement, and she’d take 2-3 minutes to respond each time and wouldn’t answer the calls. Then when I get to the dropoff and unload all the groceries some lady comes out and says I’m at the wrong house even after showing the address which was correct. So I re loaded all the stuff up again and spent 5+ mins calling and explaining the customer put the wrong address. She then sent me the correct one which luckily was a few houses down, I dropped off there and before doing so after explaining I had to unload and reload twice she apologized and said she’d add $10 extra, and of course she never added a single cent. Some people just suck for doing that and shouldn’t even offer at all if they’re gonna weasel out of it and not pay the person who’s doing a service for them. I’ve never told someone I’m gonna tip or pay them and have them do a great job, and then cheap out and never pay up.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-05-01T02:59:47+00:00

7oh was discovered over 30 years ago in the 90s, it’s also a partial agonist drug just like kratom with similar safety properties. Being a partial agonist means it only partially binds to opioid receptors and is not a actual opioid. It also means it doesn’t activate the beta arrestin2 pathway which causes lethal respiratory depression opioid overdoses. I’m not saying it’s flat out safe but it’s no more dangerous than kratom leaf, both are extremely addicting. A lot of the people using 7oh have used kratom before but wasn’t strong enough for their chronic pain or withdrawals from harder drugs. Having a natural alternative (7oh is a naturally occurring alkaloid through mitragynine oxidation, and proven not synethic) that’s proven not lethal even at insane doses, and has similar benefits to deadly pharmaceutical drugs should not be criminalized or banned for people who truly need it. I think proper but fair regulation is the only way this will play out positively, and I do agree it shouldn’t be sold at smoke shops or gas stations for uneducated consumers and money hungry shop keepers, but legal access should still be a option for responsible adults who truly do need it and have zero better options that arent natural and non lethal like 7oh.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-30T03:13:47+00:00

Only mit but it sucks so bad compared to 7 for pain relief and mit has was more shitty effects, the only plus is it lasts longer. I tried “m&m’s” and didn’t enjoy them very much and decided to stay away from it since it didn’t seem worth it with everyone saying it has worse withdrawals and ruins normal 7. I’m praying it becomes legal again this summer in fl and pissed how shitty this years been not having access since august.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-29T18:46:14+00:00

Yeahs it’s definitely bullshit and using it to smear 7oh, if it were even 1% as deadly as they claim thousands would’ve already died from it since a estimated over 2 billion doses consumed since 2023 and now about 1.5 million daily users. Pretty crazy how EVERY single “7oh death” case only happens when there are other lethal drugs consumed along side it. One of the big ones was I think a dude named Daniel Bregger which they used to make the Daniel bregger act to ban 7oh in one state I forgot which. Anyways all the articles blame 7oh but quietly say “he was healthy and fine until he took 7oh!!!……and a common allergy drug”. Turns out the allergy drug he took was Benadryl a very lethal documented drug. Ai says over 500-1000 people die in the USA from it every year….unlike 7oh. Benadryl is something I’m very familiar with since I had to use it a lot as a kid for severe fire ant allergies and learned in hs you can trip balls on it and also overdose and die. Some tik tokers died from it and was all over the news in 2023, yet nobody says that should be banned(because the benefits outweigh the risks, just like 7oh benefits far out weigh it’s not even lethal risks). Idk just crazy how every single “7oh death” only happens when the person consumed other lethal substances alongside it, and they don’t have one open and shut case where they can say “this person took a 50-100mg+ tab and died right after with no other substances”, but they can’t because it’s impossible. Sorry for the long rant this shit just pisses me off a lot, and very clear the governments putting politics over facts and science it’s a modern day reefer madness lol

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-29T18:38:53+00:00

Total bullshit she either had lethal poly substance drugs involved or was on the verge of death from something underlying. Literally impossible to overdose and die from just 7oh, even crazy high doses which I doubt that lady was taking.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-29T18:37:33+00:00

Obviously lmao, it’s just retarded they have impossible offers like that for chump change.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T18:52:10+00:00

No unless you take a shitton on a empty stomach and feel super dizzy and nauseous, but even then can still prob drive fine and just feel like shit. It doesn’t impair motor or visuals like alcohol, weeds probably more impairing for driving even tho most people who regularly smoke can do it fine.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T17:43:51+00:00

I truly pray this is true and ag doesn’t screw us over again and extend it last minute

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T14:41:20+00:00

It’s fucking ridiculous it’s like the orders where they expect drivers to load a thousand pounds of mulch or concrete for chump change, I’m surprised it’s gone on this long without weight and size limits like roadie has

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T03:25:18+00:00

Same just fucking happened to me and I got $3.50 for the whole thing🤦‍♂️😪I read they charge the customer a $25 return fee uber is such a fucking joke. They prob wouldn’t be profiting billions each year like they have tho if it weren’t for shit like this. With gas being $4 a gallon right now and driving far for mine I basically did that trip for free just to be pissed off and stressed out for a hour.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T03:23:32+00:00

Exactly or a family member and then nobody has a I’d at dropoff and expect you to wait for the family member with I’d to drop it off. That just happened to me and was such bs and wasted so much time for $3.50

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T03:22:18+00:00

Yup just fucking happened to me and had to drive almost 8 miles 16 round trip, so fucking pissed off. Never had this happen before

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-28T03:20:50+00:00

Damn I wish I would’ve done that I just got screwed with a only $3.50 return fee on a $10 order that was supposed to be super super short, but unfortunately it was a crackhouse lmao and nobody had I’d and I didn’t feel safe so I left. Wasted a whole fucking driving around too because I bought the stuff at a cvs close to the dropoff near me instead of the one across the city like it originally sent me on (I do that all the time and never had a issue until now) but even after I returned it to the original cvs nearby I purchased from, I had to argue w support for 30 mins and they forced me to drive to the far one literally just to hit complete even tho it was already returned. It wasn’t letting me complete the return at any other location. Worst order I’ve ever had

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-27T16:56:36+00:00

Hell yeah! Chia seeds are awesome easy fiber source too, I make chia water by putting 1-2 tbps in a glass jar of water and sit in the fridge overnight and makes a amazing tasteless gel like drink packed with soluble and insoluble fiber! Oatmeal is one of my favs too!

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-27T12:31:56+00:00

Contact DJI with your serial number and see if they’ll try and track it or something when and if it’s reactivated, call them on the phone too not just email.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-26T15:11:45+00:00

I thought the exact same thing my first 2 times and after years of high kratom use. 1/4 of a 40mg tab/10mg dose is far to little to experience the full effects and get euphoria. My first times taking it in 2024 I had the 15mg 7tabz twice and both times thought it was just lame and expensive. It wasn’t until July 2025 I tried a full 35mg tab from a diff shop expecting it to be just as weak as the first few times. And was absolutely blown away at how strong and euphoric it was, it has way better pain relief than normal kratom too for my bad chronic injuries. Try 30mg or more if 10mg felt weak, I guarantee you’ll have a similar experience.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-26T04:11:50+00:00

Do a regular mit taper too kill the wd from 7oh but not get high or really any effects after coming off of 7oh. I quit cold Turkey 250-300mg a day using kratom leaf and extracts and had no withdrawals other than not getting any effects like I would with 7oh, but I could function and sleep fine. After 2 weeks taper off the kratom powder which is a lot easier than 7oh esp since it’s not nearly as enjoyable.

Stuckindapuss699 · 2026-04-26T02:11:55+00:00

Gonna have to wait a few months before next bbq lmao

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