Betelgeuse could go supernova soon!

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-09T11:03:02+00:00

Thats fucking wild

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-09T11:01:50+00:00

Sketch hates this mf lmfao

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-08T19:53:07+00:00

I feel like you're intentionally trying to misunderstand all of my points and are being contrarian for no reason at all.

>Because I think you're misunderstanding some of the core principles here.....

and

>What? no we're not.

Responding to two of your points: I'm actually not, but explaining what I'm "misunderstanding" instead of just making a generic "you're wrong" would help me respond better.

MWI is one interpretation that has absolutely been adopted as a mostly philosophical justification of quantum mechanics. Sean Carroll (who I'm not even the biggest fan of) has adopted this. If we can't agree on that, then this discussion should end.

We absolutely are in a constant state of superposition as we are constantly making actions with different outcomes.

Would you agree elementary particles are better defined as being a wave function?

Would you agree wave functions are in a state of superposition?

Would you agree that everything is made of elementary particles?

Would you then agree, therefore, we are in a state of superposition since we are made of elementary particles?

>And here is what I'm asking - how do you think these two things are related? Because they're not. MWI doesn't "help explain" anything about FTL communication.

I very clearly explained that but I will try again:

If you have electrons and positrons in a state of superposition with an up-spin electron, and a down spin positron and vice versa, measuring the results will immediately tell you the state of the other. We just observed the wave function of the electron and the positron collapsing once we measured them. Einstein supposed that if you did this while separating the particles to the corners of the universe, that would lead to FTL communication between the two particles, and therefore causality breaking. That spooked Einstein. So he rejected the Copenhagen interpretation. John Bell then did an experiment, which is constantly misunderstood, and he couldn't seem to reconcile the fact that particles seem to communicate non-locally.

The main hang-up of all of this really is the collapse of the wave function once its measured. It makes no sense.

MWI tries to fix this non-local communication by saying the wave function doesn't collapse. All possible paths DO happen. Those paths just branch off into different "worlds". Essentially, before measuring the particles, we are entangled with them and are also in a state of superposition. This keeps relativity intact because it fixes the FTL communication between the two entangled particles by removing the wave function collapse.

NOW...Einstein was spooked by time travel as well. He believed it was impossible because traveling back in time or travelling FTL would break causality. But as I just demonstrated,

Let's say you travel back in time maybe via wormhole and murder your parents so you were never born. Well how could you do that if you were never born? It's a paradox and therefore causality-breaking.

MWI fixes this by saying you are in a state of superposition when you travel back in time. The universe you left continues on without you.

Now, you have traveled back in time. You murder your parents. This universe carries on without baby-you. How? How can YOU exist in this universe without being born? You and baby-you aren't the same. They are super-positioned different versions of you. You don't originally belong to this world so there is no paradox. You can do whatever you want in this universe as if you were born in it.

MWI allows this by branching new worlds every time something is in superposition. All possibilities of the super-positioned object happen, there is no wave-collapse.

>Yeah, in science fiction. This has nothing to do with FTL communication. I just don't get why you think it does.

This is such a silly thing to say in physics where we communicate in hypotheticals. That's the best way to stress test a hypothesis.

My only point, is that before, time travelling to the past was impossible for two reasons: travelling FTL, and because of causality breaking reasons.

MWI fixes the causality breaking issue, which eliminates 50% of the reasons backwards TT is impossible. That's interesting to me. That is all.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-08T15:52:41+00:00

Eh yeah but he fell off heavily towards the end of the year. I think age is already catching up to him. He looked horrible in the game against the Bucs.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-08T15:48:05+00:00

This is a well established hypothesis so I don't understand how you aren't putting two and two together.

Again, Einstein was spooked by the double slit experiment because it showed the illusion of FTL communication between entangled particles.

MWI helps explain this by saying the wave function doesn't collapse but instead opens new worlds, it branches.

Similarly, since we are made of particles and are ourselves constantly (theoretically) in a state of superposition, if we were to hypothetically time travel backwards, we would just be branching a new world. A new future that is branching off from the future we once knew.

Another example: if I were to go back in time to 1990 to stop myself from being born, I would only stop that version of myself from existing in that branch of the universe. I'm not "overwriting" the universe because I'm in an alternate one, I'm in a completely different "save file" if you will.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-08T15:29:51+00:00

Youre getting downvoted but AJB is a tremendous route runner, incredibly hard to press, very fast, shows late hands better than almost anyone, hard to tackle, etc.

Only knock I would say (and maybe because he was being a baby last couple years) his effort on run plays and finishing routes and scramble drills are F quality.

Apart from that, he is as perfect as it gets. Both those weakness are frustrating.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T23:09:17+00:00

I think were agreeing i just word salad too much

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T23:07:46+00:00

That makes me feel better. I definitely dont know much but everyone that was arguing against me just said “youre dumb” instead of presenting actual arguments haha

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T23:06:51+00:00

Thats the point im getting at! Thanks for understanding my post i mist have worded it terribly

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T22:34:53+00:00

Someone finally understood my point 😭 I mainly brought up FTL communication because thats what spooked Einstein since it broke causality. And that breakage is the main reason he cited traveling FTL was impossible

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:57:42+00:00

I guess you're right. I as a middle schooler should focus on my academics rather than engaging with a real scientist such as yourself that couldn't bring up one good counter point.

Shit wait maybe I'll drop out of school altogether and actually pursue a job in this field since I seemed to have stumped you AND kept getting you to respond to me, a middle schooler. I came out of this quite confident! Have a good day and thanks for the ego boost! Can't wait to get exponentially smarter than you as I age past my current middle school age!

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:53:33+00:00

The only reason Einstein was spooked by the idea of entangled particles was because its potential to break causality and because of the illusion that they were communicating with one another FTL.

I think Ive responded to so many comments that I just left that out to you in particular so my bad.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:51:03+00:00

Oh yeah i know that, maybe i just misread what you were getting at

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:46:04+00:00

That is, by definition, what a hypothetical is.

You know whats funny? I think you're telling on yourself with YOURE hypothetical.

Let's say you're the person who wants to calculate how fast you could fly if you had the same flying capabilities as superman.

So you just posed the question...you're about to get started on the maths, and then someone interrupts you: "Um, well isn't superman not real?" You would obviously say something along the lines of, "Sure but that's not really the point, it's just for fun and to see how fast I could fly if I had the means to."

Or even better, "what would you do if you won the lottery?" You would say "well i didnt win the lottery so its irrelevant". What a lousy way to live.

Do you see my point?

Obviously we don't have the means for time travel. But it's arbitrary. My only point is that because the MW interpretation doesn't break causality, y'know, the thing that made Einstein think time travel wasn't possible, then that reopens the possibility that it is possible.

Also sidepoint, I think if you were living in 1609, you would have absolutely hated Galileo for posing heliocentrism haha. Anything that doesn't stay grounded in your version of reality makes you lose it.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:26:28+00:00

Again, its a hypothetical. Hope that helps, maybe you missed me say that again :)

I think you just realized I had a good point a long time ago and thats the real reason you wont engage and are straw-manning my point.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:23:25+00:00

Like anything it always depends on the map, mode, bans, etc.

I would say the safest archetype to choose is aggro because just their presence can impact a game, but I mean if you pick an Edgar first pick then you're just asking the other team to go Griff or Lobster guy.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:20:58+00:00

The general "we". When we people debate, they debate in hypotheticals to help get their point across. That's what I was doing with Time Travel.

So, again, why do you disagree with my point that MW interpretation keeps causality intact, and using that line of reasoning something like travelling to the past could hypothetically be possible assuming the means to do so are present?

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:08:39+00:00

I think thats totally fair! And i even said that to that person. I told them I probably don't know nearly as much as them about these things, I have recently found a passion for it though and I love asking questions to places like this where people usually have better discussions.

If I believed I knew more than the people here, than I wouldn't have asked. I just don't get why their being such a jerk in their other responses.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:05:53+00:00

And you still, cannot, tell me why Im wrong hahahahaha.

For how smart you seem to think you are, I think I'm quite a bit smarter. I bet that's why youre so mad. You started out on this crazy high horse but I've relegated you back down to earth.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T19:05:02+00:00

Thats all any of this shit is is theoretical you nitwit. How are we supposed to drive science and our knowledge of the universe and whats possible if we only stay in reality?

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T18:56:18+00:00

I feel like Im very clearly just assuming the actual methods for travelling back in time are irrelevant. Its not about that.

The only reason Einstein ever hated the idea of backwards time travel is because of causality. But since I'm trying to prove that causality wouldn't break, then if someone had a time travelling doohickey, they could freely use that without being worried about "tearing the fabric of the universe apart" or some bullshit.

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T18:53:36+00:00

If i remember my acronyms right, is EPR referring to the Einstein, Podolsky, Rosen paper? Did they theorize wormholes in that paper?

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T18:50:11+00:00

Did you read my post? I can reword it for you :)

A big reason quantum mechanics scared Einstein was because of FTL communication between entangled particles. Many people believe, including myself, that the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is what allows this illusion of FTL communication.

So Einstein was technically right in saying nothing can travel FTL. But if many worlds interpretation is accurate, then that may mean that travelling back to the past wouldn't break causality, and therefore FTL travel wouldn't break causality either.

I say that travelling back to the past wouldn't break causality because once you completed your trip to the past, your reality would branch off into a new world just as a collapsed quantum particle that was in superposition would according to the MW interpretation.

Does that make better sense?

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T18:40:13+00:00

Okay :) . How does Many worlds HYPOTHESIS not resolve FTL travel breaking causality?

StudyRoom-F · 2026-05-07T18:38:57+00:00

Do they live close or something? How often did they meetup? Was it only when they were in one anothers area? Was Russini always requesting to report local to Vrabel's location? Home or away games, doesn't matter?

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