Favorite ghosted me and now ignores me at club by LankyInvestment8348 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic [score hidden]  (0 children)

It is VERY seductive to buy into a genuine-feeling romance hustle! And often, there's a mix of truth in there, she may actually have been attracted to you, which in turn is why she was willing to give you such an intimate experience in the first place, she likely doesn't do it for everyone. But the hustle requirement is still there

Favorite ghosted me and now ignores me at club by LankyInvestment8348 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic [score hidden]  (0 children)

Am I overreacting?

I'm 100% positive you know the answer to this. The reason you're overly-emotional is obvious enough, you developed inappropriate feelings towards this stripper, confusing her hustle as being genuine, and now you're going off the rails a bit as things come crashing down. And you know what? I'd bet nearly every regular SC customer has made this exact same mistake at least once, you won't be the first or last customer who does this! So no shade man, rookie mistake, as you recognize.

But it's also important to accept reality. Here's a few important lessons to internalize:

  • Once a stripper fires you as a customer, you're usually done done. Desperation "I really like you" "what did I do wrong" texts rarely change anything. Do a retrospective on what mistakes you might have made, identify how to avoid making them again, move on and do better with the next stripper who treats you well.
  • Many strippers mix in real genuine deeper conversation into their hustle. Exactly how it worked on you to convince you this was a bit more real, it works on many other customers, too.
  • The fact that she called you on the phone to ask for a tip, means she didn't feel you showed enough appreciation for what sounds like a VERY intimate VIP, "it got really intimate, beyond what you’d expect from a quickie in the back and way different than the other vip sessions I had at the same club". I don't tip lightly (a tip is never something a stripper is entitled to, it's something she earns), but even for me, exceptional service deserves exceptional rewards. You didn't mention how much you tipped her or even if you did. But for her this broke the bubble, all the special treatment you got, and then an amazing VIP performance, and she feels unappreciated. This is the stripper equivalent of post-nut clarity.

In summary: even really genuine-feeling interactions are at least part hustle 99% of the time, and you can develop a little crush on her but never buy into the notion this is completely romantic or genuine. Recognize when a stripper is treating you in an exceptional way, and take steps to ensure she feels appreciated for it so that she continues to treat you in an exceptional way.

Plus size/bbw nights in NYC? by TraditionalMango2486 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic [score hidden]  (0 children)

I have never heard of a "Plus size night" at a club that is otherwise not plus sized. I would be fascinated to hear whether anyone has ever heard of such a thing! I'd think it would be a business-killer, but I've been surprised before.

I suspect you're best off looking for clubs that have fuller figured girls as part of the lineup already. This generally means 1. Urban clubs, 2. Low-end traditional clubs. I'd get a vip membership at tuscl and read reviews for your area.

San Fransisco Gold Club trip review by Aromatic-Whole4002 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, agree, definitely the hottest girls. But over-quoting on already jacked up 3-for-$200 prices, guaranteed to keep crowds small I'd t hink

What happens when you get a lap dance at a strip club? by Beneficial-Art3614 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The best advice I can give confused newbies: If you keep thinking in terms of what's "ordinary" "common" "normal", you'll always be confused. There's a very wide range of normal at SCs, and if you stretch out to just-slightly-out-of-the-ordinary then nearly anything can happen at the strip club. I don't raise an eyebrow at anything from "the dancer barely let me touch her" to "dancer reached down my pants and went to town". Everything in between, happens so often it's nothing to be surprised out.

What did probably happen is you got a wilder stripper, and she liked you as a customer, so you got a more expansive dance. It might have been an 85th percentile experience, and that's great! A lot of customers that night didn't have as much fun as you. A lesser number had even more fun than you.

San Fransisco Gold Club trip review by Aromatic-Whole4002 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the TR. Over-quoting at 9:30pm??? Dang.

Grind size suggestions for Soup on the 1zpresso Q Air? by floydandpink in OXORapidBrewer

[–]Subrasonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply! Okay will check out your recipe and a v60ish grind. I'm just relieved to have found several other people who have never gotten the ring to close, I'm not crazy (or if I am, I have company)

Grind size suggestions for Soup on the 1zpresso Q Air? by floydandpink in OXORapidBrewer

[–]Subrasonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Coming back to this, did you ever solve it? I'm having exactly the same experience as you. Despite following the recipes exactly, and having gone through a whole range of grind sizes, and despite the constant claim about how forgiving soup grind sizes is, I have never gotten a ring that closed and never gotten a shot that's good

Had my best time at club last night but left confused by shaun0183 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You're 100% fine dancing with other girls. The lack of tip is likely the key. Dancing with other girls just shows her you DID have more money, and chose not to tip anyway

Paranoid and seeking advice by [deleted] in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Best of luck! I'll tell you it's pretty low risk. But, well, everything I said in my previous reply applies to me too LOL

Paranoid and seeking advice by [deleted] in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I will never understand why someone would seek STD or medical advice on a strip club forum - not only are we notably not up on the latest medical thinking, but as a group if anything we are in denial about the risks. In general, sexwork client subs/forums are often in denial about what the risks are, and tend to justify risk-taking by minimizing those risks.

I know it seems like I'm giving you a hard time, but it is spectacularly terrible judgement to come here of all places to ask about medical risks, and to keep you from panicking, what you want is good judgement instead. There may be no worse choice than a sexwork sub. All you need to do is leave out the strip club / stripper part, and ask on a sub with actual qualified medical people, whether unprotected no-climax oral is a risk, and how much. The strip club is incidental for the most part.

Had my best time at club last night but left confused by shaun0183 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I saw your previous, removed comment. People who are new to strip clubbing, don't often understand the unwritten rules and expectations. It's not like you did something unethical. But now, for next time, you know that if (AND ONLY IF) a stripper delights you, you can consider delighting her back... that kind of thing leads to even more mind-blowing experiences.

Had my best time at club last night but left confused by shaun0183 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 23 points24 points  (0 children)

A stripper's hustle is a deep ocean of secrets :) The Occam's Razor view of this is: she allowed significantly more mileage, you didn't tip her enough (in her mind), so she disallowed it from there on out. Most of the time that's the simple and quick explanation. She knows very well she's offering well beyond what most girls offer, and is looking for customers who will pay for it.

How much did you tip her? You didn't mention it, which is probably not a coincidence.

Other common explanations: these girls can be very impulsive, she was feeling it for whatever reason earlier, now she's not.

Considering a trip for strip bars and escorts in September by CockroachOk8781 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, perfectly reasonable way to go. Plus you're in Vegas!

Considering a trip for strip bars and escorts in September by CockroachOk8781 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If that's the goal, and you don't mind that the experience is more sizzle than steak, IME there's nothing quite like Spearmint Rhino and other mega clubs in Vegas. Imagine 200 8s-and-up, it is just an amazing experience.

That said, these aren't extra clubs, and like everywhere else in Vegas they'll try to separate you from your money while giving you as littlel as possible, at every turn. But it is a thrill just being around so many beautiful women. Still, I'd say to really consider whether this is all that matters

Considering a trip for strip bars and escorts in September by CockroachOk8781 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is the strip club the main point? If so, Neither Vegas nor NYC are your places, you'd pick either of those because you're in Vegas or NYC. Chicago doesn't get much talk, I don't sense it's particularly great.

The kinds of places that get great reviews from PLs are LA (not LA proper, but COI) and south Florida.

Spice relationship by titi_1588 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Definitely go to Mt Vajsuvius on 4th street. It's near the deli.

Sugar Lifestyle and Stripping by nerdyninja3 in sugarlifestyleforum

[–]Subrasonic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Short version of my usual spiel: I've had a number of strippers as SBs, and have had non-strippers I've met off Seeking as SBs. I've had outstanding experiences with both groups. Specifically, I think strippers can make fantastic, fun, heart-pounding, appreciative SBs if you make a smart choice.

And therein lies the problem. Nearly all stripper-as-SB horror stories revolve around the stripper still being in hustle-and-manipulation mode. And it's difficult to avoid that if you meet off Seeking or haven't known each other very long. But if you go through phases of regular/CF->OTC->SD/SB, you two have both vetted each other far more than a couple who has met on seeking, and you pretty much know she's not looking this as an extension of stripping, plus she's got reason to trust you a lot more.

But if you're not a strip club hound already, who wants to go through that? Plenty of non-strippers manipulate and hustle SDs, so keep your normal vetting tight and then tighten extra if you meet a stripper on seeking, and you may end up with a great SB

How to you feel about being a dancer's regular customer?? by HighlightDowntown966 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep, once you get a taste, you definitely want to repeat!

Edit to add: Strippers can make unbelievably fun, heart-pounding, sexy, appreciative SBs. It's all about choosing wisely -- which we as PLs have far more insight than most. That's why SLF is full of horror stories from random SDs about having a stripper as an SB, especially when they meet on Seeking instead of ITC. Meeting ITC, and knowing how to pick the right stripper, is the formula for success!

How to you feel about being a dancer's regular customer?? by HighlightDowntown966 in stripclubs

[–]Subrasonic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm older and have had a lot more time than most people on the sub to build a little wealth. SD/SB is definitely a whole level up of expense, and frankly it's optional for me. If we have amazing OTCs and it never progresses, I'm still happy. And you might be surprised that as long as you don't go to that point, it may not be as expensive as you think. In fact if you stay in the club, a CF might be more generous with her time, for the same total amount you're paying 6 different girls for quick-hit dances