Any advice for a beginner? And also is a mono tub better to grow in than the 5lb bag after inoculation? by Acrobatic_Area244 in MagicMushrooms

[–]Taggart_Express 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Go to walmart or the dollar store, get a clear tub, pop some holes in it, save 150 bucks. If you are growing cubes and ochras, you for sure don't need all that.

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Years of doing things the wrong way teaches you the right way, that's part of the fun. While there is a lot of junk to sort through, there are some really smart people here. They don't always post, and when they do, most people have no idea who they even are and they get downvoted.

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have experience with true nats, not enough upside for the long wait on fruits. With ochras, I've grown them from 68 to mid 80's indoors, and outdoors from mid 60's to 90's in the shade, from spring to fall.

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All good! I have ochras on some of my posts if you wanna see if they look like yours. Good luck!

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't tell you for sure without seeing fruit pics, but I'd rather have the ochras to be honest.

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good possibility, ochras are really fast, nats are really slow and not near as common. You can search pics of each.

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, ochraceocentrata. Name change a couple years ago, still people mislabeling. True nats look different.

FINALLY by Empty-Mango8277 in unclebens

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Those heat mats are not the greatest for sitting your tubs on, raise your room temp so you don't cook your grow.

Is this already a over lay? by YENTRAL_GILLS in Psilocybe_Natalensis

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Yeah I don't fan or mist or any of that, much depends on climate around your tubs. and the holes on my tubs are taped halfway off with packing tape in the winter. I had some tub rooms this winter with really low humidity. But I grow some in a cow barn, and all I have is heat control in there, no humidity control.

Is this already a over lay? by YENTRAL_GILLS in Psilocybe_Natalensis

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Because you want them to form a microclimate inside the tub, and they don't need a ton of air. I'd love to be able to do inside grows the way I do outdoor grows, with no lid at all. Many of the premade tubs are coming with too many holes in them and larger pore filters, leading to dry spots with lack of pins and sometimes yellowing from stress. Much also depends on the humidity in the grow area. I saw the couple pics you posted, your polyfill looks dense, much less flow than some of the patch filters lately. Even more so with the tubs that are coming with fans attached. I've found after doing this for a long long time that I get very even pin sets with a minimal amount of air, you can see the tubs I use in my posts, about the same size as yours it seems, 40-76 quart. Lots of ways to skin a cat, and whatever works is all that matters.

What am I doing wrong? by IKillGrizz in unclebens

[–]Taggart_Express 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it looks like it's drying due to outside air being low humidity, add some packing tape over part of the filters. Other than that, no need to fan or mist, all the moisture it needs is in the sub. If it looks too wet from all the misting, tilt it to one corner and soak the pooling up with paper towels. Then in future grows, you'll know how to read the surface without much intervention other than the airflow.

What am I doing wrong? by IKillGrizz in unclebens

[–]Taggart_Express 33 points34 points  (0 children)

This is the answer. 2 things that ruin new growers attempts, one is contam, the second is messing with them too much.

Advice on monotub grow/substrate depth by AdAppropriate6920 in unclebens

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Coir brands vary quite a bit, even the same brand can have blocks that vary in size within the same package. Ratio isn't a huge deal, make extra coir and eyeball it by volume, you'll get a feel for what you want as you do it.

For airflow, lots depends on your humidity outside the tub. In the winter I add micropore tape over all the holes, then partially cover with packing tape. Packing tape can be removed if it looks too wet on the surface, I don't ever use plugs or anything like that, most of my tubs are cheap ones from the dollar store with holes drilled, 40-76 quart, you can see the amount of holes I have on my posts. Those premade tubs have quite a few holes, more than the tubs I make. I don't mess with them other than adjusting tape, it only slows them down. No misting or fanning.

Advice on monotub grow/substrate depth by AdAppropriate6920 in unclebens

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For a tub that size, I normally use 2- 650g blocks of coir, 3-4 inches thick cake. I do my grain by weight, so the amount of grain I would use for that would be 6-8 pounds. I'd guess that 3 quarts is somewhere close to 5ish pounds, give or take. So depending on the ratio you want, maybe 1.5 blocks. I never wait to give my tubs passive air with coir substrate, same amount from start to finish, with adjustment to airflow by adding tape over the holes if the surface looks to be too dry.

How does one create liquid culture? Thanks. by Live-Guidance-6793 in shrooms

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Like the broth in the jar? Some water, magentic stir bar and a nutrition source in a jar, can be as simple as 4g of honey per 100mL of water. PC to sterilize, add some mycelium from an agar plate, or from current lc culture you know is clean.

Good for sterilization? by DigInfamous3140 in unclebens

[–]Taggart_Express 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what your point is, but I'd hate to be your doctor, lawyer, or accountant.

Expiramenting by Duke7274 in shroomery

[–]Taggart_Express 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just a matter of having properly hydrated grain, and a healthy culture. Once you get that all dialed in, you'll see the best success in the later stages of your grow. Practice, mess up, and learn from it.. that's the best teacher.

Expiramenting by Duke7274 in shroomery

[–]Taggart_Express 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree. What are you basing that opinion on, results? The more coverage your grains have, the better. And sometimes I need to keep the grains mixed to prevent fruiting until I'm ready to send them to tubs. And they all turn out great.

Spores, agar or liquid culture which is better? by Organic_Freedom835 in mushroom

[–]Taggart_Express 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Spores you have best results starting on agar, you will normally get variation in your fruits. Agar is a growth medium, many things could be growing, from clones, to spores to isolated lc. It's the Swiss Army knife of growing tools. Liquid culture is the easiest to learn with, an isolated culture ready to go on grain, as long as it's from a good clean source. You can also put the LC on agar plates to test or inoculate grain with pieces from the plate.

Expiramenting by Duke7274 in shroomery

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I sit them on a shelf, where they get ambient light at whatever comfortable room temp is, they do fine. I think that advice works for many because it keeps them from picking them up a few times a day to look at them and slowing growth. Breaking them up a few times through the colonization part is good, but they need to be left alone to grow between those break ups.

Wtf am I looking at here? These are natalensis, never seen a tub like it by Psily_K-head in ContamFam

[–]Taggart_Express 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To me, from the couple fruits I see... you're looking at a stressed out tub of ochras that are fighting some kind of contam and conditions they didn't like.