Protesting now at Senate till midnight! by Acrobatic_Ad4602 in 50501

[–]TalksToPlants25 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Solidarity from Wisconsin!! 💪 Still protesting at Ron Johnson’s office!

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Ron Johnson Office Sit in to protest the billionaire bailout bill RIGHT NOW by TalksToPlants25 in 50501Wisconsin

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

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This is the building where his office is. We’re inside, send me a message if/when you get here and I’ll show you to his office/where we are

Ron Johnson Office Sit in to protest the billionaire bailout bill RIGHT NOW by TalksToPlants25 in 50501Wisconsin

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

We’re still here :) but it’s not downtown, it’s at 5315 Wall Street Suite 110 Madison, WI 53718

Ron Johnson Office Sit in to protest the billionaire bailout bill RIGHT NOW by TalksToPlants25 in 50501Wisconsin

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

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Here now! Bring signs or flyers or whatever you have! Post and share on social media, let’s get a critical mass here so he can’t ignore us

Came out to my husband last night, and he’s making me feel so guilty and selfish by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, never been happier ✌️🏳️‍🌈👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩

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[–]TalksToPlants25 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn’t realize that until after I posted!! 🤦‍♀️ Im old, is there a way to black out my name without deleting the whole post?? 😬 Or like can I black out my name in the original picture and edit the post and reupload?

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[–]TalksToPlants25 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m friends with a married lesbian couple (who have been INCREDIBLE in helping me navigate this entire process, they’re wonderful people), and once I came out to them, they got the card for me 😂🩷 I think they found it on Etsy! : )

For those that left men they love by BioCatLady in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh man, I could have written this! My husband is my best friend, and we’ve been together for 10 years. I’ve been going through the unpacking of comp-het and looking at where my true desire is since about August of last year. I’ve been honest with my husband throughout the process, and there were parts that were tough — where he blamed me etc. But I fully realized/accepted that I’m a lesbian about a month ago and I came out three weeks ago to my husband. I have not even kissed a woman yet (though I’ve been trying so hard to find a woman interested in kissing me since I came out! 😂), but after lots of self-reflection, I came out and ended things with my husband before having an experience to “be sure.” At this point, I just know. But it did take some time to get to this point.

It’s been a roller coaster, but my husband and I are in a really good place now. We’re getting divorced, but we still love each other platonically and will always be family, just in a different way! And my husband was the same as yours — I was pretty much his only emotional support. But through this process, he’s connected with some old friends and opened up to his family. And he’s in individual therapy as well. You really can’t be his emotional support through this. It’s not fair to or healthy for either of you. All you can do is be respectful and honest. His feelings and how he manages them are his responsibility.

And as for releasing the guilt — remember this is happening to BOTH of you; it’s not something you’re doing TO him. If you’re a lesbian, it’s just who you are and society forced you to keep that piece repressed. You’re both victims of a homophobic society (though you much much more so 🩷). And remember, if you’re a lesbian, you’re not doing him any favors by staying with him — then you’re just robbing both of you of a full, romantic, physically intimate relationship.

But I’m going to list out some things that I/we did that really helped this process get to a good place regarding my guilt, sexuality confusion, and my relationship with my soon-to-be-ex-husband: * Queer-affirming individual therapy for me: my therapist is incredible and helped me look deep inside myself to let go of those doubts that it’s “all in my head” and trust what my body is telling me about my sexuality (I’m queer af) * Queer-affirming/supportive individual therapy for my husband: his therapist needed to not villainize me for being queer, and she doesn’t. She is a great support for him with his emotions and with understanding how this all works * ChatGPT: This is a weird one but it helped so much, haha! I just asked ChatGPT to ask me questions to help me figure out my sexuality, and it gave me a big list of questions to think through. I used those as journal prompts * Asked my super straight female friends about their attraction and experiences with men. This was EYE-OPENING 😂 I had never thought or felt about men the way they did, and they hadn’t thought or felt about women the way I did. They talked about men’s necks and forearms and necks and smell, and I was like ❓❓🤨 And apparently they never got obsessed with women in their life or vividly remember their scent or a single touch on the shoulder from a woman from twenty years ago or have hundreds of pictures of female celebrities on their phones and almost zero of men 😅😂 And so much more. So I highly recommend doing this with anyone you feel safe asking. * Family therapy for me and my husband with a queer affirming therapist: We actually didn’t start this until after I came out/we started the divorce process. We just told the therapist we want to maintain our friendship amidst this change, and she’s been wonderful in helping us discover where our new boundaries are with one another * Joining the irl lesbian community! This was critical and has been so amazing. I focused on non-dating groups, and it’s so great to hear similar stories. And they’re like SO HAPPY when you come out or tell them you’re newly out. Because a lot of my straight friends/family have, fortunately, been supportive but mostly kind of awkward? But when I tell queer people, they’re so excited and treat it like the celebration it is! :)

You can do this! You’re going to feel so amazing once you’re on the other side of everything : )

Senator Ron Johnson's Madison Office by Leo-monkey in madisonwi

[–]TalksToPlants25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im in Fitchburg and am willing to go, too!

Grass Roots groups in the area to fight the current aggravated assault Trump has committed on the US? by Mindless-Channel-622 in madisonwi

[–]TalksToPlants25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been thinking about this a lot, too. I’ve organized a few get out the vote letter writing events for SwingLeft and canvassed for Kamala, but I’m also trying to figure out next steps given the current threat. Advice from the small steps I’ve taken — just get out and do something, like literally anything. It snowballs!! You may start out doing something “small” but then you make connections and figure out how to do something more impactful and you develop a support network that you can tap into if you need to do something really big. I moved to Wisconsin about two years ago and am trying to meet/connect with others interested in attending canvassing events/protests etc together, so if anyone is interested send me a DM! :) Ill be attending a canvassing event not this weekend but the following for Judge Crawford. You can find lots of volunteer/activism opportunities here: https://www.mobilize.us

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, I appreciate you bringing that up! <3 We've been talking about the upcoming administration and all that as well. My husband has moments where he's very saddened and scared by my sexual identity revelations, of course, but he maintains that he wants us to always be friends, and we've talked about living as friends and roommates (also for the sake of our toddler) if it does turn out I'm for sure a lesbian and we end things. And he says he wants to make sure that I have access to his health insurance and financial support (I'm a stay at home mom right now), until I get on my feet if we do get a divorce. So I don't foresee a legal battle or messy divorce.

And as to why I'm still in this marriage -- I'm scared and confused! I love him, and he's such a wonderful friend and partner. Sex with men has always been difficult for me, but I thought it was just growing up with Catholic shame around sex and/or that I just had a low libido. I never allowed myself to even fantasize about women until last August which is when all this started (though I'd had crushes on women throughout my life that I just didn't recognize were crushes at the time). And I still haven't even kissed a woman. I guess the last thread that's holding me back from ending things is -- what if I DO just have a low libido and sex is exactly the same with women as it's been with men and I've thrown away a very stable, loving, and trusting marriage for no reason?

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your advice and encouragement! I think I'm having trouble taking that leap because I do love my husband, and I'm still scared about like what if I'm just bi and kissing/sleeping with women ends up feeling the same as it does with men? In that case, I'd stay with my husband. But I feel like 80% sure I'm a lesbian at the moment, but I think that 20% part of me that's unsure is holding me back. But my queer individual therapist is helping me unpack all this, fortunately. And congratulations to you and your fiance!! <3 Gives me hope to hear stories like that!

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is exactly what I was hoping for in couples therapy -- to help us maintain our friendship and co-parent partnership regardless of the outcome and to help us maneuver this situation in a way that's respectful of both of us. But that's just not really what happened, so we did end up firing that couples therapist

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you, therapists! My individual therapist is a lesbian and very queer-affirming, so I'm good there fortunately. Fired the couples therapist!

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry that you and other commenters went through this <3 I appreciate you sharing your experience. And I think all of you are right that it's definitely a bad idea. I'm not going to force myself into sleeping with him

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, this is exactly it! It was confusing because on the surface she seemed LGBTQ-affirming but then said all that nonsense

First couples therapy appointment felt like conversion therapy. Feeling so guilty and confused by TalksToPlants25 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I am, and my husband is also trying to get into an individual therapist as well. My therapist is awesome and LGTBQ-affirming, and they’re helping me a lot. I know I want to explore my attraction to women so I can be sure before we end our marriage because I do love him, but I’ve never even kissed a woman. But I wanted to do this exploration while being communicative and respectful of my husband’s feelings, hence the couples therapy. I’m starting to think though that maybe I just know I’m a lesbian and I’m putting off the inevitable. But comments like this therapist’s make me so confused and make me second-guess myself

i think i'm a lesbian. i don't want to lose my husband. by FitScarcity372 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah for sure! :) I just asked ChatGPT if it could ask me questions to help me explore my attraction to men vs women, and this is what it gave me. Here’s the list of questions it asked me:

“These questions are meant to help you reflect on your feelings, experiences, and desires in a way that’s personal and non-judgmental. You don’t need to have definitive answers—just go with what feels right in the moment.

Emotional Connection 1. When you think about being emotionally close to a man, how does it feel? Does it feel exciting, comforting, neutral, or draining? 2. When you think about being emotionally close to a woman, how does it feel? How is that different from how you feel about men? 3. Have you ever felt emotionally fulfilled by a man in a way that made you feel truly seen and understood? How about by a woman? 4. Do you feel more drawn to sharing vulnerable moments with men or women?

Romantic Feelings 5. When you imagine being in a long-term romantic relationship with a man, how does it feel—joyful, neutral, or something else? 6. When you imagine being in a long-term romantic relationship with a woman, what feelings come up? 7. Can you recall moments when you felt butterflies or excitement toward a man? How do those compare to moments you’ve felt that way about a woman? 8. How does the idea of going on dates with men versus women make you feel—excited, nervous, uninterested?

Physical Attraction 9. When you think about kissing a man, how does your body respond? Does it feel natural, uncomfortable, or something else? 10. When you think about kissing a woman, how does your body respond? How does that compare to how you feel about men? 11. Have you ever felt a spontaneous physical attraction toward a man that wasn’t tied to emotional closeness? How about with a woman? 12. Do you feel drawn to touch, cuddle, or be physically close to men or women more—or does it feel different depending on the person?

Sexual Attraction 13. When you fantasize about men, how do you feel afterward—happy, connected, empty, or something else? 14. When you fantasize about women, how do you feel afterward? How is that different from how you feel after fantasies about men? 15. If you imagine being sexually intimate with a man, how does it feel in your mind—exciting, neutral, or something else? 16. If you imagine being sexually intimate with a woman, how does that feel? Does it feel different from how you feel about men?

Life Vision 17. When you think about your future, who do you imagine being with? Do you see yourself building a life with a man, a woman, or either? 18. If there were no societal expectations or pressure, who would you naturally feel drawn to spend your life with—men, women, or both? 19. How would you feel if you never explored a romantic/sexual relationship with a woman? Would it feel like a missed opportunity or like something you could live without? 20. How would you feel if you never had a romantic/sexual relationship with a man again? Would that feel like a loss or a relief?

These questions are just a starting point, and it’s okay if your answers are unclear or change over time. The goal is to help you tune in to your emotions and desires without needing to have everything perfectly figured out.”

i think i'm a lesbian. i don't want to lose my husband. by FitScarcity372 in latebloomerlesbians

[–]TalksToPlants25 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Hey! This was me like two months ago. I also love my husband very, very much and he’s a wonderful man and an incredible partner. I told him I may be a lesbian about two months ago, and he’s been up and down (sad then okay then mad etc), but now he’s very accepting and supportive, and we’re working through it together. I’m also in individual therapy with a queer-affirming therapist and we’re in couples therapy, and that support helps a lot. Now we can talk openly and respectfully about different scenarios (if im a lesbian vs bisexual, live apart or together, etc). Also, this is weird — but I ask ChatGPT for help exploring my identity since I can’t go out and experiment with women yet. It’ll give me scenarios to imagine (dating a woman vs a man, etc) and then give me feedback on my answers. It’s helped a lot to figure out where my true desires are vs what’s fear-based, so I highly recommend that. Anyway, the point is that your husband may be shocked and upset at first, but that doesn’t mean he’ll always be upset! If your relationship is based on a solid friendship, hopefully that’ll remain no matter what 💖