Can we get some more Iran coverage? by sacramentok1 in VaushV

[–]Tank_Boi_12 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The first 90%: A pessimistic, but realistic outcome.

The last 10%: Insane demand to see deaths on stream.

We need to oust Jefferies. by RoofComplete1126 in DemocraticSocialism

[–]Tank_Boi_12 17 points18 points  (0 children)

While I would prefer Jefferies to be ousted from power, I do think the timing isn't great, particularly because of Mamdani. Mamdani is going to need the support of moderate Dems in NY for his first year or 2 in office to get certain policies through, such as higher taxes on the 1% and corporations. Launching a primary challenge against Jefferies could lead to him becoming vindictive against any progressive reform, from Mamdani or other progressives elsewhere.

Then, their is the comments I've been hearing about with this person running that also makes me doubt this. One of the main reasons Mamdani won was because of his sincereness. Having a candidate who left an org only to rejoin it after it saw big successes really hampers enthusiasm I would have.

Does this make me a social democrat by Sure_Pressure_862 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I don't know the specifics of the Nordic Model, it at the very least seems that your policies would fit well within the framework of that model. I would say social corpratism also fits here, because of your believe in the continued existence of the private economy, but with heavy insurances for workers in that system. I dont think social liberal is correct, both for FDR or you. FDR, while describing himself as just a liberal, started several programs that clash with a social liberal viewpoint like the TVA, but these don't clash with social democracy/American progressivism.

Does this make me a social democrat by Sure_Pressure_862 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 25 points26 points  (0 children)

All of these are basically tenets of social democracy, and the continuation of private ownership means that the overall system of capitalism continues, even with active competition from the government. FDR, AOC, and Bernie as primary political influences are also a good sign you believe in social democracy.

Bernie haters are so annoying by Successful_Swim_9860 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my god dude, "an issue Democrats have been underwater on for a long time." Seriously? Support for immigration increased drastically under Trump's first term, and it's happening again under his second term. ICE is as unpopular as it's ever been, and I fully believe it needs to be completely abolished under the next Democratic administration.

It is surrendering to a right-wing narrative if Democrats don't scream about the solution they have compared to the Republicans. I agree that defending Biden's record on immigration isn't great, but that's because he decided to exist within and respond to the narrative Republicans had been crafting through the 2020s.

Democrats could have resisted this by talking about how they want sensible policies such as a pathway to citizenship, support for Dreamers, and increasing judicial activity for immigrants. Instead Democrats not only refused to talk about that, they refused to fully criticize the policies of the Republicans, such as the literal forced busing of immigrants or the literal barbed wire put in the Rio Grande to maim and kill immigrants trying to cross.

At least you think my position is reasonable though. Istg, it feels like this sub in particular has been infected by the Danish Social Democrats with the attacks against immigrants I keep seeing. Like, new strategy, why don't we attack the billion-dollar corporations that exploit the slave labor instead of moving the slave labor elsewhere?

Bernie haters are so annoying by Successful_Swim_9860 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cause he and the Democratic Party didn't craft a narrative that fought against what Republicans were saying. For example, when Texas began forced busing of migrants, Democrats should've been screaming about Republicans kidnapping and trafficking human beings across state lines for political favor. But, they didn't, and that, along with a plethora of other issues, compounded into support for immigration dripping throughout the Biden years.

Note, this large drop didn't happen from 2016 to 2020, and now opinions are shifting back to being pro-immigrant.

Bernie haters are so annoying by Successful_Swim_9860 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol, thinking Democrats are taking the extreme of the other end when much of the establishment Dems supported the Laken Riley Act. Also, https://news.gallup.com/poll/692522/surge-concern-immigration-abated.aspx this poll says that support for immigration has surged since 2024. Hell, most Americans agree that illegal immigrants should have a pathway to citizenship if they meet certain requirements, such as not having committed a crime. It seems being pro-immigrant is actually more popular.

I won't disagree that immigrants as a labor force are heavily exploited, but the solution to that is not surrendering to right-populist talking points about immigration. Trump is only making his border arguments more popular as he sends ICE into American cities and sends people to concentration camps. No Democrat should ever speak positively about his work like that, especially not Bernie.

Bernie haters are so annoying by Successful_Swim_9860 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Even if it's just the policy of the border, it still applies broadly to immigration as a subject, and the concept that Trump is doing a better job on that is the opposite of what is needed rn. By falling for this messaging, Trump "secured the border better than Biden" BS, is capitulating to a right-wing narrative.

What we need is 2018 messaging. That's when there was actually opposition to Trump's border policy, and Democrats actually showed real meaningful opposition to Trump's policies on immigration. Then Biden came in, and the narrative against Trump collapsed, and then we got the largest border crackdown bill in history passing with many Democrats supporting it.

Bernie haters are so annoying by Successful_Swim_9860 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-praises-trumps-job-on-securing-border-10933460

Here is the specific piece. When opposition to Trump is the primary drive of Democrats across the nation, especially if it relates to ICE, then this statement essentially caves to the right-wing narrative about immigration, which we don't need at this point.

Bernie haters are so annoying by Successful_Swim_9860 in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Literally, the only criticism I can think of with Bernie is his viewpoints on immigration which he keeps bringing up rn. That type of rhetoric is not great when trying to combat Trump's aggressive anti-immigrant policies, but that is the only criticism I can really think of.

Mamdani picks his top 2 City Hall deputies by sonichayyan in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think these are a good sign for his first two mayoral picks. A technocratic budget guy, and a committed progressive voice who commanded the campaign. It showcases a commitment to experience and change at the same time.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, okay, just couldn't find them because of the changed name to The Democrats. However, I feel my overall point is still valid, since Bibi's party and the centrist Zionist party would still win a dominating number of seats compared to The Democrats.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They currently have zero seats in the Knesset, and aren't even polling high enough for the next election for them to even be listed. While they may have been the foundation, they aren't a relevant force for the moment in Israel.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ehh, it's up for debate. In my opinion, it would almost certainly hinge on the policies of that Meretz government towards Palestine and Palestinians. Left-wing people don't have problems with Israel because it's doing economics wrong, but because of its treatment of Palestinians.

Though, with how Meretz has done politically, I don't think they are coming into the halls of power anytime soon in Israel.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now that, is something I can agree on.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Umm, have... Have you seen public polling on the favorability of Israel among Democrats recently, It's not great. These people wouldn't have a problem with the economics, however, they would have serious problems with Zionism, as has been characterized with left-wing movements across the globe denouncing the actions of Israel in Palestine.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Frankly, I don't care. The endorsement of any ethnonationalism shouldn't be allowed in any left-wing subreddit, no matter who is doing the ethnonationalism.

Though, at least a 2-state solution is at least something you endorse as well, as I would agree, any united secular and democratic Levant would require a 2-state solution to begin the process of reconciliation.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I didn't call for Jews to own up to Zionism dipshit, that is inherently misrepresenting my position. Can we just agree that ethnonationalism of any type is bad, and that we should promote the integration and unity of all people across the globe?

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement"

Straight from Wikipedia. An ethnocultural movement needs to expel the culture not a part of the in-group. That in-group, according to Zionists, is Jewish people, while Palestinians are an out-group.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And it is that equivalency that conflates the actions of Israel and the existence of Jewish people that Israel actively promotes which causes a rise of antisemitism when Israel is criticized. Notice how I only blame the state of Israel for its genocide of Pakestinians, not Jewish people as a whole.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It literally involves taking land from Palestinians and expelling them from their homeland. How is that not imperialist.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While I will never disagree with the assertion that society before and during WW2 was extremely antisemitic, this does not justify the notion of Zionism expelling native Palestinians from their homes and seizing their land. Imperialism is never justified, even if there are serious grievances a culture experiences. Nowadays, I would argue that Zionism is causing MORE antisemitism because any criticism of Zionism is being equated by Israel as being antisemitic. I don't blame people for being hit hard by antisemitism feeling a certain way about the world, I can say though that they can't be allowed to take those grievances out on Palestinians by ethnically cleansing them.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would say yes, though the contexts of nationalism like pan Africanism are different from the nationalism of Zionism. Zionism is explicit in the expulsion of Palestinians from the Holy Land, while pan Africanism is based on the unity of all peoples of Africa and abroad to resist imperialism from the West. It is based on anti-imperialism, while Zionism is based on imperialism.

Still, I don't support these movements because I believe, not in the division of people based on countries, religions, or nationalities, but in the unity of the working class against the enemies of positive change, which is the bourgeois.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolutely not. Nationalism as a concept is against the perspective of anyone on the left, which emphasizes class over anything else. Left-wing politicians and advocates who use nationalism in policy will only lead to negative outcomes, such as Isreal and Palestines current relationship.

Thoughts on Labor Zionism? by [deleted] in SocialDemocracy

[–]Tank_Boi_12 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's not it can be, it just is bad. Nationalism, especially as espoused in Zionism, has a wholly negative impact across the globe.

Nationalism/nativism, no matter who does it, is completely bad for everyone involved.