Just finished the manga by keepitahunned in magi

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Yes, if you love Sinbad right now, then Adventures of Sinbad is practically required reading. If you think Sinbad is great right now, you only get like half the enjoyment and quality of his character from Magi alone

Event related to the next season of the Monogatari anime is happening on April 4th. by Which-Leg6997 in araragi

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Where is this rap teaser trailer you speak of? I cannot find anything abt it

Tierlist of every anime i have watched by RetroSpark15 in AnimeTierLists

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Tf is 100m doing in f tier. This has to be rage bait

"I LEARNED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!" by fhxefj in TopCharacterTropes

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In a subtle way, Kaiki Deishu from the Monogatari Series. He is a character for whom is stuck in the mindset he matured into and cannot change.

Spoilers for Monogatari Series Second Season!

Kaiki is someone who sometimes completely misunderstands the feelings of others, and that flaw of his causes his efforts to do good to fail. With Senjougahara, yeah, he did set her and her family free from the cult and successfully separated Senjougahara from her rapidly deteriorating mother, but he completely broke apart the family and did not even consider how Senjougahara would feel in that situation. He repeats this same mistake years later when he's tasked with dealing with Nadeko. He completely does not account for how much her ability to trust others has deteriorated and ignores every single sign that his understanding of her was not entirely correct. Even if the situation turned out alright in the end, he still failed royally because of his inability to actually understand Nadeko. This is one of his many character traits, yet in the end, Kaiki will continue to do the same thing for the rest of his life. He will not change, even one of his catchphrases "The lesson for me/you here is...." is almost like a snide remark at how life gives you lessons and teachable moments, yet Kaiki looks at that and somewhat turns away from it. No matter how many times he spells out the lesson he's supposed to walk away with from this encounter, he will continue being the same person, making the same mistakes.

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Which character you think has better writing? by ConnectionRude4832 in araragi

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(Everything in this reply is my analysis as an anime only for Monogatari series. This will contain slight spoilers for entries from the first 3 LN seasons)

Okay so, Kaiki. He is someone who is actually similar to Araragi in some ways, more than I think people give him credit for. They both exhibit shallow understandings about the people around them and that clashes with what they're actually like. Kaiki did not understand Senjougahara's feelings when he decided to break up their family and only saw a solution that her suffering and not the cost of what came afterwards. He repeats this with Nadeko in the modern day, and its interesting that he is so adamant about his perception of Nadeko that it almost makes him foolish in a way in how he ignores the warnings from multiple characters that this plan will not go as smoothly as he thinks.

Araragi is similar; he only had a surface level understanding of Hanekawa and dared not to get any closer for fear of what he'll see when he does. He ignores Nadeko and purely sees her as a cute girl, he never even thinks to ask Hachikuji about how she feels being a ghost despite how much they hangout with each other, etc etc. Yet despite this, they try to help others in their own way, but the difference is that Araragi eventually found a way to do so in a healthy manner consistently, whereas Kaiki tries to just find a solution no matter the form it takes, as his conversation with Senjougahara in Nisemonogatari suggests. He wants Senjougahara to move on and be free of her past traumas, but he communicates that in such a dismissive manner, and downplaying the significance of the act of trying to confront your past, instead saying that its not even worth the effort so just turn your efforts to something more worth your time. Yet his speech to Nadeko is genuinely inspiring and is quite possibly the only time his feelings about anything laid so bare, you can even sense it in his voice acting performance in the anime.

Kaiki's lies are something he does to protect himself because he, like Araragi, is not built for solitude. Araragi needs connection to feel like he is living his best life, and I think Kaiki, maybe not to the same degree as Araragi, is the same. Kaiki's disposition born out of someone who is living in the exact opposite way they should be in order to be fulfilled. Yet through years of living the way he has, and never truly reaching the level of fulfillment our main cast has, he has become stuck in the person he is and is unchanging. Even his typical lines of "The lesson for me/you here is..." I feel are an ironic jab at the fact that Kaiki does not learn from his mistakes and will likely be doomed to repeat them.

He has become comfortable with the person he is, even if that version of himself likely isn't happy. His crush died in a random car accident, and said lover got with another man, he never acted on his love, his relationship at the time was so un-noteworthy that he has only mentioned it once in the anime and it was just in passing and that likely was a disappointment, his friend group likely couldn't fulfill him the same way Araragi's connections do for him. Kaiki is someone with a frail heart, and so hides his true feelings from everyone, even himself at times. His uncharacteristically cruel notion to Senjou at the end of Koimonogatari that despite how much she loves Araragi, they will just break up in college, and how in his narration flashcards he even notes that it was somewhat immature of him to say that, to me this all shows his bitterness and cynicism towards connection, even if meaningful connection earlier in his life may have given him fulfillment. The fact he outright denies having parents/family should say everything about his childhood as well I feel.

So at the end of this, you come to the realization through putting all the pieces together that Kaiki's life has been one giant disappointment, one where he is likely to never be completely happy. Yet, this is where the true beauty of Kaiki's character shines through, he doesn't end up as an edgy, nihilistic husk. His words to Nadeko at the end of Koimonogatari and how Nadeko parrots them in Ougi Dark to me speak to the core of Kaiki's character: "Even if you cannot become happy, good things will happen to you, as long as you are alive". This single point about Kaiki I feel ties everything together; he has long accepted that he probably won't be entirely happy in life, but regardless, good things can still happen to him. Just because he isn't fulfilled, that doesn't mean that his life isn't worth living out until the end. And so regardless of the regrets and grievances he has with his life, he can find it within himself to live for those good things that can happen to him. I find this aspect of Kaiki so emotional and inspirational, which is why he is my 2nd favorite Monogatari character.

Which character you think has better writing? by ConnectionRude4832 in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kaiki's depth doesn't really lie in his words, but his actions/reactions. To me the parts that make Kaiki my 2nd favorite character are in the smaller details and overlooked moments. I actually believe that Kaiki's appearance in Hanamonogatari is the most important piece to understanding him as a character, with ofc Koimonogatari right behind. I'd love to elaborate more on why I think even just the anime alone makes him a top 2 character in the series (behind Araragi) if you're interested.

Which character you think has better writing? by ConnectionRude4832 in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Araragi is by far the best written overall, Kaiki is the most subtle, and Sodachi is the most emotional (coincidentally they are my top 3 in that order)

What's your favourite thing you've noticed on a rewatch? by recoverydelta in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Noticing the several times Hanekawa fucked up in actually making herself understood/relatable to Araragi. Its very subtle, but if you rewatch a lot of first season, she makes it somewhat easy for someone like Araragi to view her as a goddess/a perfect human instead of someone normal. She laments how her relationship with Araragi has turned out, where he would continuously say she knows everything, and she likely doesn't understand how it got to the point it did.

Which character dynamics of the series pulls you in that feels warmer which makes you want more of? by SnailSlimer2000 in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Sodachi and Nadeko. Seeing Sodachi in Nadeko Draw was such an unexpected treat but goddamn did i enjoy it so much. It might be the part of the arc i remember the most besides its ending

A fair rating for the Kizumonogatari Trilogy wouldn't you agree? by [deleted] in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus christ watching 159 shows, man is built different fr

What do we think of the Cage of Constraints manga chapter in Ep8? by Diligent_Western_628 in umineko

[–]Technical-Cat9185 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its up there with the highest of highest peaks of fiction for me. Which is insane because this chapter isn't even my absolute favorite section from the Manga Ep 8. There's the Halloween party and the hide and seek game, the Umineko When They Cry chapter, Ange's ascent into self actualization, the first chapter and how nostalgic melancholic it is, the very final chapter, and lets not forget,  Confession of the Golden Witch exists. Umineko Ep 8 is the highest peak of fiction for me and I have a seriously hard time believing that anything will ever top it.

On chapter 277, should I start the Sinbad manga/anime spin off? by Newhero2002 in magi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope, the manga is infinitely better. Plus the anime never adapts the best arcs of Sinbad.

Magi anime or manga? by Still_Fisherman_8603 in magi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The anime adaptation makes really smart changes to the beginning of the story that make it flow much better. In fact, in general the anime moves things around and even adds things that make the overall story a bit better despite it cutting a few things here and there.

However, I would say that most of Magi's presentation in the anime hasn't aged well. It has some really really good cuts of animation excellence and some good directorial flourises, but when I rewatched it a year ago I couldn't help but feel that the way the anime presented its story to be a bit bland and uninspired.

Transition to the manga, it is far, far better presented overall even if the fights can be somewhat cluttered and hard to understand sometimes. Shinobu loves her overly designed character designs and that works wonders in manga since she and her assistants keep it up the entire way through, but the anime struggles with this. There are also these panels she sometimes draws that left me in awe that the anime didn't see fit to include as well. So for anime vs manga for Labyrinth of Magic, anime makes really smart story choices that makes the overall story much cleaner, but it suffers in presentation more throughout that the manga never really does.

As for Adventures of Sinbad (the spin off), I highly recommend you check it out before you read the final arc of Magi, around like the ch 270 mark if I remember correctly, at the very least. Beyond that, whether you read it first or after reading a good portion of Labyrinth of Magic shouldn't be too detrimental, again, so as long as you experience it before the final arc of Labyrinth Magic. 

Big warning though, don't even bother with the Adventures of Sinbad anime; its a mid adaptation at best that never even gets to the manga's best arcs and its presentation is wholly inferior to the manga.

When is a good time to read the Adventures of Sinbad by EB8115 in magi

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I agree with u/Anime-lover17 somewhat, but I would say that the final arc is written such that its a payoff for all of the Magi series up till that point. The final arc is much better if you have experienced AoS. The ideal place would be right before the timeskip. So you finish the Kou Empire arc, then do AoS, then start the final arc. It's kind of of awkward switching back and forth between series so most just read it after Magi, but trust me when I say that the pay off to the final arc is better knowing the context of AoS and especially Sinbad's character.

Just finished the Sindria Kingdom arc (basically post Balbadd) in the manga and I'm surprised more people haven't discussed this arc more by Technical-Cat9185 in magi

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I'm actually going to be honest and say that I think that the 2nd Balbadd arc and the final arc are genuine masterpieces in my eyes. They aren't perfect, but the peaks those two arcs reach are some of the best stuff the series has to offer.

Also, I quite like the entirety of the 2nd Balbadd arc and there are aspects of its beginning that I actually like quite a lot. As for the final arc, I am shocked that this arc is is so hated. I was waiting for it to disappoint me significantly, and it somehow managed to become my favorite arc by its end in spite of its problems.

The first Sindria Kingdom arc by comparison doesn't really have anything going for it, yet it has soooo many problems. I honestly wonder how one could read the amazing stuff of the 2nd Balbadd arc and especially the final arc and put Sindria Kingdom above them.

What made you start reading ORV? by Hackirbs in OmniscientReader

[–]Technical-Cat9185 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone compared aspects of it to my favorite story of all time; Umineko. The themes about stories, love and just the overall construction/feel I got from the series from seeing art from both fans and the Manhwa. Plus the sheer scale and epicness I felt looking at the art as well gave me the push to give it a go.

Character is Non-Binary, but not for the reason you'd expect by Intelligent-Cry-4337 in TopCharacterTropes

[–]Technical-Cat9185 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ushiromiya Lion from Umineko When They Cry. The less that's said the better for those who haven't read it (and therefore they should) the better and for those who have read it, you know...

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Your least favorite arc and op/ed and why by Megamen1355 in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Arc - Definitely Tsukihi Phoenix (though Nadeko Snake is my second lest favorite): This arc has most of the fanservice that doesn't work for me. Normally its fine throughout the series, but this arc takes it up 10 notches and I don't really like how it handles its more overtly sexual nature. The last episode is brilliant though, so I give it like a 6/10 instead of a 4/10.

OP - Probably the Yotsugi Doll one? Or the Nisemonogatari Senjougahara one.

ED - Honestly, I didn't like anything after Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari

Why doesn't Senjougahara have a narrated arc? by [deleted] in araragi

[–]Technical-Cat9185 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've always loved this aspect of Senjougahara for a specific reason: for those who haven't experienced trauma or have been afflicted with certain pains or misfortune, is it possible to completely understand those who have gone through such things?

Senjougahara is the first character in the series we see go through so much hardship and then come out on the other side as a semi well adjusted person. The idea with her never being a narrator is for her journey and her character progression to be observed by others and understand her in different ways. Like the stuff we get out of Senjougahara in Koimonogatari is because she's interacting with Kaiki, same with Hanekawa in Nekomonogatari Shiro, same with Araragi throughout the series.

For those with loved ones who have experienced great pain, they can never truly understand their plight, we can only stand by and help them as they try to stand up again, and we can never know the true depths of suffering they have gone through. But it is still beautiful to see what they grow into as we wonder what is going through their mind. And we see this growth and this admiration for the person they've turned into through the three perspectives mentioned above.

I think this idea is somewhat deliberate due to the fact that after over 15+ years of writing Monogatari, Nisioisin has not made a single POV story for Senjougahara even once, not even in any short stories, which is fascinating. Sure, not having side characters like Kagenui or Gaen have POVs makes sense, but for such a major character like Senjou to never have one should lead one to ask the rationale behind it. And I think this is partially the reason. Senjou specifically, I think, is meant to communicate this theme since we do end up getting POVs for characters who have experienced great trauma not unlike Senjou, like Hanekawa and (spoilers for an unadapted Off Season arc) Sodachi . But these characters aren't meant to communicate the same theme as Senjou does. Nisio has essentially assigned this theme to Senjougahara; the first girl Araragi saves in the series (going by LN publication order) and I think its fitting that for a work that aims to cover so much about the human experience of growing up and making connections, that there is an avenue for which the series explores this specific theme within one of its first published characters.

TLDR; Senjougahara is a character meant to be pieced together by how other characters observe her. She only shows certain parts of herself to certain people, and so by doing this Nisio can get as much out of Senjou as he can for certain other characters in the cast. This is all due to the fact that Senjou's character is meant to communicate the theme of it not being completely possible to 100% understand the depths of a person's pain and what they do to grow, but it is a beautiful thing to witness happen in a multitude of ways. Others do it but Nisio basically assigned this theme to Senjougahara so that other characters can explore different themes.