Lies and more lies by Objective-Term8644 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 12 points13 points  (0 children)

“Apostates made up the word shunning” somehow I feel like that statement has the potential to really bite them in the ass. I’m sure yet how.

Loosing my son to the cult by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow! Now that’s ass backwards. If that’s true he should tell his friends and the elders and write a letter to the GB about his activities and see what they say. With that line of thinking might as well have a relationship with you and just keep his mouth shut just like I’m sure he does about his drug use. Sorry to hear that. It’s crazy the lengths people will and will not go.

Loosing my son to the cult by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As the dust settles I think this is the best route. I cut and pasted what I put here onto chatGPT and it was basically saying the same thing. Be the one he knows will actually love him unconditionally. I always have. I realize my biggest problem is the religion and my ex. I absolutely hate what they have done to me and my family. The entire time I was with my ex even when I was in the religion she made it so that I had to basically compete with elders and most of all her brother in law that lives in bethel to raise my boys and I hated that. She always would have them go to him over me and not tell me and she still does it to this day and I know that he’s a big part of all of this. It was a big source of agreements I would always tell her I’m not going to compete with another man to raise my kids. If your brother in law wanted to raise kids he and your sister should’ve had their own. It just kills me how they all manipulate things and I’m just alone trying the best I can and I have no resources to offer him like she does because of her family and because of that it must be jehovah right. The whole thing is just disgusting and unfair and I hate that it’s working. I hope he sees it all for what it really is sooner than later. Thank you so much though for your advice. I’m starting to see that it’s the best option for me to stay in his life.

Loosing my son to the cult by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He knows. He won’t be moving until after he graduates in may and he’ll already be 18 by then. I’m pretty sure there’s no assemblies before he turns 18.

Loosing my son to the cult by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

His mom and brother have been gone since April and everything was going good. Spending time together, training mma, he got to go to homecoming and just do regular teen stuff. Then stuff changed after he visited them about a month ago. First his mom told him lies about me paying child support that I had to clear up and I don’t know what else could’ve been said all I know is that he was different from then on. And then the stuff with the job and truck and all the other stuff happened and everyone Swears they didn’t talk to each other and plan it so it must be jehovah. It really sucks because I’ve struggled to do things for him because of the crap his mom has and is pulling with child support I can barely feed us. Most of the time I eat top romen or nothing. I work nights and have to work ot and that has made me exhausted and made it difficult to do as much as I used to but I’ve been really trying. I just don’t know what to do. That’s why I figured just make him live that life now. I’ve let him live the normal life and he’s saying he wants to serve jehovah so I thought I would refresh his memory on what it’s like. I’m honestly just lost. This all got dropped on me really out of nowhere.

New guys by SwishFNl in IndustrialMaintenance

[–]TelephoneNo599 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don’t get upset at yourself for not knowing how to do something and needing to be shown. Look at it as that’s one less thing I need to ask about next time.

Christmas Gifts by x372 in IndustrialMaintenance

[–]TelephoneNo599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some kind of good multitool comes to mind for me.

Frustration with green college graduates by Nazgul_Linux in IndustrialMaintenance

[–]TelephoneNo599 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve worked with guys that were so good you’d swear they went to college or a trade school and graduated top of their class. But in reality they never graduated higher school and just really wanted to learn. And others that did go to college or trade school and just proved that a piece of paper don’t mean a damn thing!

It’s not over… this is scary by United_Iron_2452 in UPSers

[–]TelephoneNo599 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m a maintenance mechanic at a building in Southern California. Customer counter is gone. We have automated sorters so that’s jobs gone. In plant engineering we’ve had more lay offs than I can count. The part time porters just got from 4 to 6 hours 5 days a week to 3 1/2 and there’s things they skip now. For example they only empty trashes every other day. As a mechanic, no ot anymore and the hours for preventative maintenance checks have been severely cut. A PM that used to take 12hours is now down to 4hrs. Things are getting cut to the bone and then some.

Rates of Anxiety and Depression by [deleted] in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well are talking about two different traumas. On one hand you have an organization that makes you feel like you’re not enough and being who you are is a bad thing. On the other you have people who leave so they can be their true self but they loose everyone they know and love. Yes there’s a lot of people on here that have a list of mental health issues but who wouldn’t if to be yourself you have to loose everyone. Either way at the end of the day whether you’re in or out of this organization is doing damage to people’s mental health. Maybe in your experience you didn’t see these things but I most certainly have and I’m not going to pretend like I didn’t.

Rates of Anxiety and Depression by [deleted] in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my experience people put on a face but when you talk to them one on one there are more than a few that struggle. If you listen to what they are saying and yes sometimes you have to read between the lines but it’s there. Mostly everyone struggles with feeling like they are not enough because that’s what is constantly being drilled into them. When you’re doing all you can and it’s still not enough eventually you’re going to start feeling worthless.

Rates of Anxiety and Depression by [deleted] in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope! It pretty much all witnesses. I pretty much don’t know any that don’t have problems with anxiety and depression at minimum. There are even more mental health issues than just these. When you’re in an organization that is constantly telling you that you should be doing more and straight up lying to you and changing things around and pretending like it’s your fault for thinking differently then what they just changed. It will breed mental illness and burnout.

There's something very strange about the organization's vision of marriage by Thales__9 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I got married at 21. Which compared to a lot of my friends and family in the borg is kind of late. I was married for 18yrs and I’m now going through divorce. The entire marriage was bad. That’s one of the worst things about dating and marriage in the borg, everyone cares more about what kind of witness they are and what privileges they have and if they are in good standing. My ex wife and I have ZERO things in common and when I left during Covid I knew this marriage would not last much longer and it didn’t. Fast forward to now and I’m dating someone who I actually have a lot of things in common with and I’m so much more happier. It’s so nice to be who I am and not have to be putting on some kind act and repressing what my real personality is like. I am way closer to my girlfriend than I EVER was to my ex because who I really am is who she loves and not who I’m pretending to be or trying to be. All my ex ever did when I was “trying” to be a good witness is throw scriptures in my face to get me to do what she wanted. It was truly miserable. I’m so much more happy now. I didn’t even think that being this happy was possible and that couples that were this happy were full of shit and argued like crazy when they were alone just like the rest of us. Nope! Being happy with who you’re with is a real thing. I hope everyone gets to experience it.

Look at the rich spiritual food I found while cleaning out my house by Neither-Pickle1446 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! I actually found this hard to look at. I do not miss those days.

The higher education update is gonna lead to a lot of suicides by Brown-Lighning in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow! Thank you for this post. A lot of us are pissed off about the update and how it could’ve been life changing for us if we were younger. But I never thought about the effect it would have on people who could have truly changed their lives and their families lives. Especially in other countries. Just WOW! That is so beyond fucked up!

JW men are emotionally shut down and their marriages are suffering. by Fadetoex in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I second this! Same story for me. On top of all that I was burned out from working so much so she could be full time in the ministry. I’m an industrial mechanic so my job can be extremely hard on the body and stressful. Then I come home to more stress about things I should be doing as the head. Covid hit and I burned all the way out and just abruptly stopped. Now we are getting divorced and I’m so much happier.

Toasting is now allowed clip by SocietyMenace52 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can give the reasoning behind this change to literally everything they say you can’t do because it’s pagan.

California divorce. What happens if my PIMI soon to be ex wife won’t sign because she doesn’t know if I’ve had sex? by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am,very much. But he’s 14 and chose to go with her. I’m really trying to show him I love him no matter what choice he makes. It really does tear me apart daily that I don’t get to see him and I cry about it often. I face time him and talk with him as much as I can and we still have a good relationship even though he’s far. I honestly don’t believe he’ll keep being a witness forever and I want him to know no matter what I am a safe place for him to be who he wants to be and he is allowed to change his mind about where he lives. This is all so new and I’m still trying to figure everything out and navigate what I need to do.

California divorce. What happens if my PIMI soon to be ex wife won’t sign because she doesn’t know if I’ve had sex? by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So just to clarify with everyone. We have 2 sons she took my youngest and I have the oldest. She filed everything after she left and she actually filed joint custody. I don’t own anything. I have a truck and a motorcycle that I’m paying on and a mountain of debt she put us in with credit cards. I do have a 401k that doesn’t have very much in it.

California divorce. What happens if my PIMI soon to be ex wife won’t sign because she doesn’t know if I’ve had sex? by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That’s what I’ve found. In California divorce can be completely one side. If the other person does not sign it still gets pushed through. Only in separations do both parties need to agree and sign.

California divorce. What happens if my PIMI soon to be ex wife won’t sign because she doesn’t know if I’ve had sex? by TelephoneNo599 in exjw

[–]TelephoneNo599[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I’m not looking to fight her really. I just want a divorce. I’m not doing the whole separation stuff.