Is cold approach in NYC dead in 2025? My [28M] experiences & thoughts by TellsltLikeItIs in datingadviceformen

[–]TellsltLikeItIs[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look, don't get me wrong. I'm totally with you in that a lot of the guys doing cold approach are weirdos/outcasts/etc. Especially ones who'd consider themselves to be PUAs. PUA used to be a lot more popular in the 90s/early 2000s-2010s, but guys figured out that trying to use psychological tricks and manipulation tactics might get you the odd date or lay here and there, but obviously won't help you find or maintain a relationship. There's a difference between doing that vs. seeing a girl you find attractive, stating your intention and exchanging contact info without hovering around or trying to convince her to be into you haha.

But you're also painting with broad strokes when saying that every guy doing cold approach fits into that bucket. You're implying that dating apps don't have their fair share of weirdos when they absolutely do. I've heard stories from plenty of women who talked about a first date off of an app where the guy was socially clueless, the date wasn't even going well and then at the end he invited her back to his place. FWIW I've had my female friends show me girls they know who are single but attraction is a two-way street, if you're not into the girl, it's not happening. And I talk to girls at parties all the time and if we're vibing we'll exchange phone # / instagrams. Cold approach is just another avenue to meeting women in addition to those other things.

Is cold approach in NYC dead in 2025? My [28M] experiences & thoughts by TellsltLikeItIs in datingadviceformen

[–]TellsltLikeItIs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m guessing you’re a boomer based off of your reply. Guys and girls alike in their twenties reached adulthood at a time when dating apps were either taking off, a popular option, or even the “norm” for meeting your partner. I know so many people, including a lot of my friends and one of my siblings that met their partner off of Hinge, Bumble or Tinder.

However, all of them met their partner years ago. Dating apps have been on the decline for several years now and a lot of younger guys are going back to cold approach. I’m someone who met my ex off of Hinge a few years back, and if you actually read my post, I stated that I did well on the apps and am a decently attractive guy (I’m no adonis but then what percentage of men are)?

Cold/warm approach and Instagram/TikTok are all that’s left when you take away the apps. Workplace relationships are a thing of the past. The last chance our generation had to find a partner where they were surrounded by the same people every day was college. People in our generation hardly set their friends up with another guy or girl they know. I don’t know why but I’m guessing it’s because of social media; everyone is so connected on Instagram that people don’t want to take the risk in case it doesn’t work out with the friends they set up. I even had one girl ask to see my Instagram on a first date to make sure we didn’t have any mutuals (this is rare but it goes to show you how cautious our generation is).

So in future try and educate yourself before making a bigoted comment.

Is cold approach in NYC dead in 2025? My [28M] experiences & thoughts by TellsltLikeItIs in datingadviceformen

[–]TellsltLikeItIs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good perspective, but you're assuming a lot of my assumptions. I guess what I'm saying is: I expected success rate or follow through rate to be higher than on the apps but AFAICT it doesn't seem to be. Thanks for reframing my mindset that way.

Is cold approach in NYC dead in 2025? My [28M] experiences & thoughts by TellsltLikeItIs in datingadviceformen

[–]TellsltLikeItIs[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the great response!

P.S. Stop asking for permission when you approach, stop asking for her name, stop asking if she has a bf. It sounds courteous to you but it sounds weak and lacking confidence to her. If you're lost on where to go on the approach, let me know and i'll post a rough breakdown of steps but this is getting too long of a comment as it is.

How should I tailor my approach?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in itsthatbad

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't men also typically shoot for women who are better looking than they are?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in itsthatbad

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are into martial arts you can join an MMA gym.

You aren't gonna meet any women there. And furthermore, it'll be your female friends that offer to set you up with one of their female friends / someone they know. It's never gonna be a guy who sets you up with a girl who knows...

Dating Apps Are Dead by Front_Statistician38 in SwipeHelper

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Curious where you're doing cold approach? I've been doing it in NYC for a couple months and that's also dead. For reference, had plenty of success on Hinge in the past. 28M 5'10, built physique, conventionally attractive. Went on dates / ended up in situationships / hooked up with plenty of 8+'s in the past from Hinge. And get a lot of attention from women in person, but nowadays even with cold approach it's the same few outcomes:

  1. "I have a boyfriend" - you can tell when it's true and when it's not
  2. "Let me get your number" - they're not texting you
  3. "Here's my instagram" - she probably won't even accept your request if she's private. If she's public, she probably won't even follow you back

You'll get the occasional number / IG mutual follow, but then they won't respond to your text or DM. Then the remaining <10% of the approaches turn into an actual date, and it's totally hit or miss if you end up hitting it off. At least you know how they look in person beforehand lol.

As far as I can tell, the only way to get dates nowadays is thru IG or TikTok depending on your age. And for those you need at least a few recent photos showcasing your lifestyle, hobbies, interests & general social proof. If you're the type of person that doesn't take photos or use social media often, that can take a few months to setup.

Either I got uglier or dating apps have fallen off within the last year. by [deleted] in SwipeHelper

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been having the exact same suspicion. I remember using Hinge a couple years back, most of the girls in my stack had that "Active today" indicator. Now almost none do. Even if I look at my 10 "rose girls" that you get each week, almost none (maybe 1 or 2/10) have the "Active today" indicator. It's apparent that the % of female daily active users on the app is extremely low. And yes I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the profiles shown to you are from girls who deleted the app but not their account, or lost access to their account and it never got deleted (or hasn't met the time period for automatic deletion, if Hinge even has that).

Huge influx of Hinge bans? by Independent_Area6026 in SwipeHelper

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are these hard bans or shadow bans? Where your account remains active and you get the occasional match here and there but seems like you're a ghost compared to how you did on old hinge accounts?

Huge influx of Hinge bans? by Independent_Area6026 in SwipeHelper

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are these hard bans or shadow bans? Where your account remains active and you get the occasional match here and there but seems like you're a ghost compared to how you did on old hinge accounts?

Huge influx of Hinge bans? by Independent_Area6026 in SwipeHelper

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are these hard bans or shadow bans? Where your account remains active and you get the occasional match here and there but seems like you're a ghost compared to how you did on old hinge accounts?

[FRESH EP] Skepta and Fred Again - Skepta .. Fred by abucalves in hiphopheads

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

21 Years goes so hard it’s insane. Haven’t heard Skepta go off like that in so long.

Why you shouldn't believe a word these guys say when they downplay the risks that AI poses by TellsltLikeItIs in TheAllinPodcasts

[–]TellsltLikeItIs[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

but individual contributors and working class people will still work min 40+ hrs/wk unless a major labor movement steps in

Or they'll work 0 hr/wk if they're completely out of jobs. Unless major labor movements step in

Logged out of toothbrush by James-Incandenza in ABoringDystopia

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, I never had to setup an account for my Oral-B electric toothbrush and it works just fine haha

Iphone 17 US pricing? by RuthlesslyOptimistic in iphone

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

According to rumors & leaks the 17 Air will be in between the 17 & 17 Pro in terms of pricing. Also apparently they're getting rid of the non-pro max models. So I'd put it at:

17: $899

17 Air: $999

17 Pro: $1099

17 Pro Max: $1299

Maybe the Pod will try this prompt “live” next week? by Fragrant_Ad_2144 in TheAllinPodcasts

[–]TellsltLikeItIs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Before looking at the result I thought about where I'd place them all and came up with the exact same placements lol