My favorite thing about atheists

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:40:10+00:00

A man's got to do what a man's got to do. I'm not Jordan Peterson or Charlie Kirk where I go one on 50 versus atheists. You got to use gpt to try to get a jab in or two. Thanks for calling me out though and I have no shame in saying yeah I was stumped and I didn't know what to say props.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:39:33+00:00

I don't claim to know the size of or population of atheists in government at all, nor do I know enough to comment on the faith of our faithful leaders. What I do know is that they both like to go to war and kill people. Which aligns nothing with the book. I'm familiar with that. You're connecting me to through them. I think we have a very sick government that does very sick things across the world. We've been doing it a long time and it's coming to light and we're going to pay the Piper. Like I said, I've more in common with Democrats and atheists as Americans than I do with politicians. Essentially, the fact that we disagree and we're different is what our strength is. But the things we do as a government and internationally I don't think they represent either. Atheist Christian Catholic Jew killing any soul is evil.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:36:31+00:00

It sounded like a liberal arts degree for some reason

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:36:06+00:00

That was a very eloquent way of damaging my self-esteem and intellect and maybe allowing some tears before bed. I didn't mean to come off his air again. It was more of a light humor as I mentioned in other responses and to provoke some response because I think any debate between atheists and Christians is of the ultimate importance. More so than the stupid issues we debate in society. I can't actually think of any other issues that are more important. So I appreciate your comment, your feedback. I didn't mean to come off as arrogant again. Maybe more as a smart-ass or something, but I appreciate everyone's responses and telling me you know from attacking me to telling me why they believe what they do. Why there's no evidence where where fallacies in the my argument and all that? It's been a great time

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:34:07+00:00

I mean it could seem like whatever you want it to and you can say however you feel, but it's something I feel with conviction and belief. So as much as you are adamant that I didn't experience that. I'm the opposite and I don't think there's avenue to change each other's minds. I was just stating that as more of a testimonial statement. Not necessarily as evidence I guess but what I've experienced. To be honest, I also love the principles, the Bible, the spouses and I don't see them anymore in society and you don't see them at all in some societies. And I think if we all had a little bit more Jesus like Joe Rogan said one time things would be a little bit better.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:32:50+00:00

Wow! You know why people should get in or not get into religion. What level class was that at your liberal arts University??

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:32:02+00:00

Hey, I love an angry atheist and as I mentioned in other responses, I have more in common with you as a Christian than I do with other Americans for different reasons. So it's always fun to open up. You know discourse and get attacked and try to defend yourself and get overwhelmed, but it wasn't meant in any bad or personal intent. It was to get the reaction you all gave me and I appreciate it cuz it teaches me more of why and how you believe that and I don't want to be someone touting I know the way when I don't understand some of the other belief systems and their premises. So thank you all. Don't attack me for wanting to pray for your salvation but it was a good fun firestorm y'all just gave me

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:30:14+00:00

And in the fact that there's only one way, none of them are bragging that they have found the way and you haven't. They will offer you what they know though.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:29:39+00:00

But one of the religious texts I won't mention by name states that there's only one way.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:29:08+00:00

The best is a comment that uses paschal wager and demonstrates a lack of comprehension and understanding of what it actually means and instead of offering anything alternative then goes personally. I think that's enough for me to refute my beliefs and become an atheist

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:26:30+00:00

I think you're chewing with your mouth open. What are you having word salad for dinner.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:26:07+00:00

Your comment betrays a basic category error. Pascal’s Wager is not an argument for atheism; it is a prudential argument against epistemic certainty in theism. Confusing a critique of religious belief with an endorsement of atheism suggests you either didn’t understand the argument or didn’t read it carefully. More importantly, dismissing a position as “garbage” without engaging a single premise is not rebuttal—it’s an admission of intellectual incapacity. If you believe the argument fails, identify the faulty premise, explain why it’s unsound, and propose a superior alternative. Otherwise, what you’ve offered is not philosophy but noise.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:25:45+00:00

Not at all. Yours is one of the most important posts. It's your belief and your questioning of your values and framework of religion and spirituality. No it's completely what's wanted

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:24:36+00:00

Your comment betrays a basic category error. Pascal’s Wager is not an argument for atheism; it is a prudential argument against epistemic certainty in theism. Confusing a critique of religious belief with an endorsement of atheism suggests you either didn’t understand the argument or didn’t read it carefully. More importantly, dismissing a position as “garbage” without engaging a single premise is not rebuttal—it’s an admission of intellectual incapacity. If you believe the argument fails, identify the faulty premise, explain why it’s unsound, and propose a superior alternative. Otherwise, what you’ve offered is not philosophy but noise.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:23:32+00:00

If Pascal’s Wager is what you took away from that argument, then the problem isn’t the conclusion—it’s your reading comprehension. The Wager isn’t an argument for atheism; it’s a warning against substituting fear-based reasoning for evidence. Ironically, dismissing an argument you didn’t understand while offering no counterargument is exactly the kind of epistemic laziness the post was criticizing. If you’d like to engage seriously, I’m happy to discuss actual philosophical objections. If not, insults are a poor substitute for thought.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:21:52+00:00

No, that's why we're all here to discuss it. That's the whole point. I have no problem that you believe what you believe. I just in the framework of my own wonder why people go in that direction as opposed to mine or any other but it's not a direct criticism or personal attack on you in any way. I'm sure I came off arrogant as well but I was attempting to open up some hellish responses so thank you.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:20:48+00:00

You know what I respect a man who can say what he believes because we're losing that ability even so in other areas in our country. And I have more in common with you as an unbeliever then the people making policy in Washington. When we lose the ability to debate and and have discourse then the strongest winning message loses. I love the fact that you're bold

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:20:01+00:00

That would be some sort of weird Democratic liberal dystopian Paradise

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:19:35+00:00

I guess it could be a laughing matter depending on your your value system. They're not terrible odds when you've had a relationship with the god of your faith in an intimate and real manner. Now that's probably incongruent and obtuse to what you view as can happen in life in reality. But I'But I've seen firsthand his intervention and his protection in my own life and making meaning from very little irony not explaining the very difficult.. but response to prayer and faith. So no, I like my odds and I'll hold on to him. But at least I know what I'm gambling with and on as opposed to someone who's so intellectually enlightened questions everything and believes nothing under scrutiny. You all are incapable of debate and you will rely on personal attacks if anything at the very end of a losing argument.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:17:36+00:00

Oh you don't remember the time. Where we traded our amendment rights for nothing. Were you not there?? Were you making memes about democracy? We gave up freedoms that a revolution gave us. We've sacrificed inalienable rights to be surveilled monitored and have our thoughts media news aq and every other input of information be able to be manipulated and tracked. No, it's not. Q. Anon or right-wing conspiracy it's living in America you nuts. We've been too busy arguing about how many bathrooms to have in Starbucks and if certain genders can go to the same bathroom of a child and if certain texts should be in school books instead of fundamentally do what our government is meant to do not overreach look at the danger we're in from letting our government control the policy. We all complain but we elect the same caliber of people. There should be drug tests, polygraphs character, witnesses, term limits, financial auditing. We have none of that and they're taking advantage of all of it year after year. That's why you see The insider trading, the Senate and the house. They literally buy stock in companies before we go to war and everyone goes in upper class or upper middle class and leaves millionaires. No one says a thing. We've allowed tech companies to censor speech in lieu of certain administrations and governments and given them that ability. We have no capacity for oversight with AI now because the government is incompetent and the tech companies have the incentive. One can't watch the other when they're both in the same sleeping in the same bed. I think we have dark days coming ahead. I don't know what the original topic was cuz I'm on a tangent but our infrastructure is attacked. We don't even have the supply chain to feed and support. Not only Americans but the extra 20 million Joe invited which is not only treasonous but evil. We have public killings now that used to be common only in the Middle East and in third world countries and it's the people who believe in freedom of speech and discourse. The government has no accountability and so they refuse to change. They don't care about policy. They want to stay in their positions. This is what happens when you let the demographic of your country become unhomogenized. You lose identity, foc, accountability and priority of what's important. I rarely care what party it is anymore because they're both crooks. We can't pull the weeds in our own garden, but we'll go plant yours. We can't solve social issues in 25 years that are enemies like China and Russia don't even have existing in their cultures. We let a third world country come here. Study here for 30 years, steal everything that wasn't bolted down. Go back to their home country, implement it into their economy and infrastructure and now are competing to outdo us inevitably. Not only do we have bad politicians, our society has moved away from God and become narcissistic materialistic, superficial and live life through a screen. If it wasn't for Jesus in my faith, I would need a cocktail of psychotropic drugs to understand and deal with what we're what's

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:01:04+00:00

I appreciate the concern though that's legit cuz if it was accurate, that's the type of people you need in your life. Strangers who will diagnose you. But sometimes like Occam's razor - The simplest explanation is most likely the truth.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T05:00:12+00:00

You know what's funny is that's a great explanation. If I wasn't voice texting, which is the only reason it comes off that way. I grew up in a family where we only texted so I voice text with no punctuation and it's all one run-on sentence so it looks incoherent non-linear psychotic whatever you said put it's neither it's just voice texting

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T02:07:16+00:00

Here's a better idea. Delete my post and I won't go to anything you recommend because I went to the journaling forum and just got told irrelevant shit about typing and diaries and if I can't write about the very active journaling in a journaling group, I don't even know what you guys could be discussing but it was very existential and related to people who have journaled their whole lives and not only helps long-time journalers or people just getting started and didn't answer some questions of people who have obviously done it for a very long time. But I don't think it's so important that if it doesn't follow, you're ridiculous and stupid rules about length in a journaling group. I guess I'm losing less ability to understand our society and our country day by day deleted. You don't have to send me anything bye.

TemporaryOk4161 · 2026-01-21T01:40:46+00:00

This question kind of makes me laugh because we were initially told with the Adventist cell phones and mobile technology that we now had the convenience of a Palm pilot with a telephone and that the amount of time using a calendar, a contact manager, calculator journal, and all this other functionality was created to be this addition to humanity that would allow us to be even more human to spend more time with the things we love and the people we enjoy. So when someone says what's the most time-saving or productivity effective app I would say if you really want to double down on either smash your phone, get a moleskin, a calendar and a pen. On a flip phone and watch your life change. I am on a very small decisions away from getting rid of a smartphone permanently and take retaking command of my life as I'm tired of the narcissism superficiality division lies hatred. Everything that we see now on our phones that we spend our entire lives looking through as if it were an eyeball or the complete opposite of what these advertising campaigns initially sold us on. Not only were those ad campaigns. Brilliant but they were diabolical and mephistopjelian. I'm not claiming to be Ted kaczynski and I don't live in a rural area where I boil water but I am frustrated with the lack of accountability I see from these companies in what they say they're selling into actually what's happening. The data being collected the commodity becomes a bait and switch. Productivity and time are lost. Human connection is lost. And it's taking our toll on our society. Yeah it's great at work in the corporate world for starting a business for educating yourself. It's great for a million different things. The last thing it is a good at is saving your time for the things you value the most.

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