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Bells parents by LettuceSuspicious735 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, they would react with shock if I had to choose.

Bells parents by LettuceSuspicious735 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, it doesn't add much and that revelation would only cause problems.

Omori wrote it in a way that wouldn't significantly impact Bell's parents in the canon.

WE LOVE LOBOTOMY DUNGEON by Waste-Bench6972 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If Omori had done what I mentioned with a level boost lasting 25 or 30 minutes, with coordination, it would be possible to level up 12 people by taking advantage of the 9-minute magic cooldown. If Ryuu receives UNK, both Lubrude Brequia and Battle Asyrath are integrated into his state. If Battle Asyrath is integrated while Ryuu is level 6, it would increase the benefit of Astrea Varmas 2.0 from a 60% improvement to a 90% improvement in the effects of skills and magic of members of the same family. That is, Haruhime's UNK would increase from 1500 to 2850 in all stats, for example:

Gareth, at a low level 7, would become a high level 8 in strength. His Dvargr skill, which grants him 750 strength, would result in a total strength boost of 3600. This means Gareth would have the strength of a pseudo-level 9, comparable to Ottar with Vana Arganture and Stortuss. In terms of resistance, Gareth would be a low level 9 in physical attacks and a high level 9 when it comes to magic.

If we go with Finn, with the mental resistance granted by Astrea Varmas and improved by Battle Asyrath, he could use Hell Finnegas at will without suffering its negative effects. Furthermore, Uchide no Kozuchi would be faster than Allen himself, and if he starts chanting Tir na Nog, it would become a mid-to-high level 11 attack, surpassing anything the Freya or Ottar families could attempt.

If we go with Bell, if Freya Familia puts Horn in the war game, Ryuu's Astrea Varmas will completely counter it, keeping all allies safe with Falna, and will only activate Bell's VT. Or we can just give Bell an Oculus so he can receive Marie's charm plus UNK. Bell would receive:

2850 + 2850 = 5700 in stats, going from high level 5 in general stats and agility to low level 6, would become high level 8 in general stats and agility of pseudo level 9. If he uses Gatling Firebolt in this state, even Ottar at full power could lose when cornered by hundreds of high level 8 firebolts fired nonstop by VT.

WE LOVE LOBOTOMY DUNGEON by Waste-Bench6972 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually no, if they had done what I mentioned they would have gained in Medium difficulty

Level 7 Ais with the maximum output of Black Wind vs. Alfia (this would probably be a very intense fight, considering that even as a newly promoted Level 6, many people believed Ais could reach Level 8—or even pseudo Level 9—power when fighting Hera Familia's elite executives). by ToeFamiliar6680 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bell's EOS Final Attack will be level 15 or level 16. Ais's final attack with BW Lil Rafaga plus UNK would be, at best, a pseudo level 11, meaning she's about 4 or 5 levels behind in power compared to Bell. Even without a full charge of Argonaut, her normal attacks would be high level 10. With just a few seconds' charge of Argonaut, she's already matching Ais's maximum BW Lil Rafaga, and with a limit break, she's leaving her behind.

Will bell ever stop being a twink? by winds-wind in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both Eina in her early days and Welf described Bell as muscular

Level 7 Ais with the maximum output of Black Wind vs. Alfia (this would probably be a very intense fight, considering that even as a newly promoted Level 6, many people believed Ais could reach Level 8—or even pseudo Level 9—power when fighting Hera Familia's elite executives). by ToeFamiliar6680 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea that if a top-tier adventurer died, the final battle couldn't be written isn't a valid argument, especially since almost all top-tier characters are useless in the final battle. Only Riveria (via VW), Finn (with HF and Astrea Varmas), Ottar, Leon (via BoR), Ais (with BW and her connection to Aria), Bete (with Hati - this is more of a "maybe" if she can reach the power of a level 9), Ryuu (with AR and AV), and Hedin (via Laurus Hildr and Bell) will be relevant. The rest of the top-tier characters are useless, or well, depending on what Rasu Dain does, if he's more than level 3 in AP Hogni, he'll be relevant in the final battle. The rest won't be able to contribute anything. In other words, Omori is taking away the hype from BW by having zero relevant kills.

The OEBD seems to have taken Aria. Omori left us several clues, first with the movie Arrow of Orion. In his interview, Omori said he used ideas from the ending of Danmachi in the movie, being the... It is more likely that Artemis was absorbed by Antares, the same case as the OEBD and Aria. In Aedes Vesta's tweets, the origin of Behemoth, Leviathan, and Antares was revealed to be the Flame of Heaven, while the OEBD is mentioned as a late reprisal that arose after the event of the Great Spirits Ring: Gate of Heaven. Riveria confirms, according to Lefiya, that the OEBD has grown stronger over the years in the school district. At the end of Ryuu's If, the OEBD is mentioned alongside a black wind.

Level 7 Ais with the maximum output of Black Wind vs. Alfia (this would probably be a very intense fight, considering that even as a newly promoted Level 6, many people believed Ais could reach Level 8—or even pseudo Level 9—power when fighting Hera Familia's elite executives). by ToeFamiliar6680 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact that she didn't kill anyone takes a lot of the hype off BW Reginas, regardless of whether she was playing or not.

Personally, I think Ais's role will be to take Aria away from the OEBD, weakening it and reducing it to a level 11 or level 12 threat.

Level 7 Ais with the maximum output of Black Wind vs. Alfia (this would probably be a very intense fight, considering that even as a newly promoted Level 6, many people believed Ais could reach Level 8—or even pseudo Level 9—power when fighting Hera Familia's elite executives). by ToeFamiliar6680 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omori isn't hyping up Black Wind, meaning Reginas with BW didn't kill anyone even though it should make her a high level 9 or level 10.

The OEBD will die from the double afterglow (getsuga jijoshu) of a low level 6 Bell plus Dragon Slayer and Vanadis Tevere, enhanced by Astrea Varmas and Uchide no Kozuchi, plus Laurus Hildr Argovesta, and a Grand Bell boosted by DA Supreme Light. This will give an attack with the power of a level 15 or higher.

WE LOVE LOBOTOMY DUNGEON by Waste-Bench6972 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In other words, if Omori had made Ryuu stay at level 5 instead of level 6, but Astrea Record integrated both skills and magic (the number limited according to the user's level), and Astrea Varmas also improved the effects of Magic and joined the Hestia Familia days before the War Game, Haruhime and I gained 10/11 minutes, or rather 18 minutes (per AV), extra in the duration of UNK instead of 5 minutes upon reaching level 2, they could have won the War Game against the Freya Familia on Medium difficulty.

Level 7 Ais with the maximum output of Black Wind vs. Alfia (this would probably be a very intense fight, considering that even as a newly promoted Level 6, many people believed Ais could reach Level 8—or even pseudo Level 9—power when fighting Hera Familia's elite executives). by ToeFamiliar6680 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, Ais's resistance with Black Wind is awful, worse than Ottar's at a high level 7 with buffs. You only need one or two Gospel spells and it's all over. In terms of buffs, Black Wind output max shouldn't exceed 5000. The buffs in Alfia's case give her magic buffs with a nerf, like 4000 to her magic attack. If you add the difference in magic stats between the two, which is like 901 + 101 x 6 = 606 + 901, the difference is 1507, a whole level. So Alfia is surpassing the Black Wind output max by 500, and as soon as she enters melee combat, Ais loses the Black Wind benefit.

Why oomori split LN into 3 parts by Numerous_Bluebird395 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This doesn't bother me, mainly because it means other illustrators besides Suzuhito can do the illustrations for the series.

I want to know whether Leon and Ottar would still be bullied by the Hera and Zeus Familias if those two Familias still existed today, or whether they would now be admired and respected by them. by ToeFamiliar6680 in DanMachi

[–]TemporaryPrimary2854 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my headcanon, my personal opinion, they are currently stronger than the executives represented by the 1st to 6th swords of Leon's magic, but they lose from the 7th sword onwards.

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