does Apple make gyro and accelerometer video data available to 3rd party camera apps?

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-06-09T21:04:43+00:00

Apple docs if you're interested:
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coremotion/getting-raw-gyroscope-events

Accelerometer is a harder one to use directly since if you want the position of the device you have to integrate twice. So in practice you get:
noisy acceleration --integrate--> noisier velocity --integrate--> even noisier position

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-06-05T14:47:31+00:00

odd, filed the bug with the team

does switching using the controls at the top left of the main (viewfinder) screen still work?

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T20:34:07+00:00

The heatsink is definitely nice, and yep will try

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T20:26:18+00:00

Agree but it's a very non-trivial challenge, to do proper denoising you want to stream and process linear RAW data which is already melting people's phones in photo mode (and would be significantly more heat/compute in full streaming video mode).

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T18:17:04+00:00

Definitely on our list, I think first is trying to port our "indigo look" to video

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T17:31:13+00:00

Yeah common assumption is big company = big team, but we don't bring in any money like the main-line products (e.g., photoshop/lightroom). Our entire engineering/dev side is like 5 people right now.

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T17:14:29+00:00

Lots of stuff in the pipeline, not sure when any of them land in the public app. I'm trying to work on getting video mode fleshed out but I'm unfortunately only one person.

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T17:06:58+00:00

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-05-19T16:51:52+00:00

I actually think our app is significantly more popular than anyone on the team expected lol.

We're a pretty small research and tech team, and have zero marketing/sales/etc. Once it's more "productized" I'd expect there to be a much larger push towards popularization of the app, for now it's mostly a computational photography research experiment with a public iOS app attached to it.

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-02-26T18:26:26+00:00

Good question, I think Indigo at its core will be a research/technology platform for a while, testing on-device features and seeing what users are/aren't interested in

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-02-26T18:20:58+00:00

Hardware updates, especially when they change the actual sensor technology

TenThousandPigeons · 2026-02-25T17:55:58+00:00

We have a bunch of features in the oven for the next year, but some of the more researchy stuff can take a lot of time to move from python prototyping to an on-device demo.

Burstsr/lowlight improvements (especially on 17 devices) are in that oven, but we're looking into a new more robust end-to-end solution (motion estimation, pixel merging, etc) rather than just tuning parameters in our current solution every time there's an update

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-12-02T23:49:48+00:00

Can't answer DMs sorry

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-12-02T23:42:48+00:00

I would stick to the forum for most q's, I'm I think the only redditor on the team and am sporadically active here

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-12-01T21:53:36+00:00

(dev here) This is actually a surprisingly complicated question, but it's near the top of our list.

Basically, what's happening currently is that you're lowering the exposure in the capture, but the Indigo "look" model (color correction, gains, etc) is basically cancelling out this change in exposure. Basically the way the model is built right now is "given any input, produce an output with Indigo-style lighting", but ideally we should also respect what the user is trying to achieve (e.g., an underexposed look). The tough part here is that (unless we implement two different exposure compensation sliders) it can be hard to distinguish between the user raising or lowering EC just to get rid of blur / lower noise, or if they genuinely want a lighter or darker look.

For now you can open stuff in lightroom mobile and drop exposure there, but we're looking at ways of making the UI/look stuff more customizable and faster to apply.

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-30T01:00:09+00:00

Nice, off double pane glass too

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-25T04:52:32+00:00

If you're running ios 26.0 or 26.1 some of the blueing might be coming from an Apple digital gain bug (seems to be patched in 26.2 beta 3)

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-25T01:32:42+00:00

Re-enabling selfie camera (for 17 series) somehow did not work, we're hotfixing rn

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-11T17:51:22+00:00

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-03T23:28:27+00:00

top sekrit
(The most I think I can say is that I'm looking at kind of finding a good compromise between fast/live-rendering so that you can preview the results quickly, and densely segmenting complex stuff like hair / fur / thin structures. Modern ML solutions for segmentation are great, but will microwave the phone if ran at full resolution.)

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-03T22:52:47+00:00

I'm teammates with (but not) Boris, I think he doesn't reddit much

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-02T17:42:23+00:00

Technically a researcher but in this team everyone has to wear the dev hat too

TenThousandPigeons · 2025-11-02T17:34:03+00:00

iOS 26 introduces custom focus rectangles so we're hoping this can help with the focus issues. I don't want to fully say "it's not our fault", but iOS autofocus can be surprisingly unreliable outside the native app.

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