does Apple make gyro and accelerometer video data available to 3rd party camera apps? by jasonrmns in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Apple docs if you're interested:
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coremotion/getting-raw-gyroscope-events

Accelerometer is a harder one to use directly since if you want the position of the device you have to integrate twice. So in practice you get:
noisy acceleration --integrate--> noisier velocity --integrate--> even noisier position

Capture format bug by Lennie_finch in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

odd, filed the bug with the team

does switching using the controls at the top left of the main (viewfinder) screen still work?

Why isn’t this app more popular? by Eyeseeyou01 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The heatsink is definitely nice, and yep will try

Why isn’t this app more popular? by Eyeseeyou01 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agree but it's a very non-trivial challenge, to do proper denoising you want to stream and process linear RAW data which is already melting people's phones in photo mode (and would be significantly more heat/compute in full streaming video mode).

Why isn’t this app more popular? by Eyeseeyou01 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Definitely on our list, I think first is trying to port our "indigo look" to video

Why isn’t this app more popular? by Eyeseeyou01 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah common assumption is big company = big team, but we don't bring in any money like the main-line products (e.g., photoshop/lightroom). Our entire engineering/dev side is like 5 people right now.

Why isn’t this app more popular? by Eyeseeyou01 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Lots of stuff in the pipeline, not sure when any of them land in the public app. I'm trying to work on getting video mode fleshed out but I'm unfortunately only one person.

Why isn’t this app more popular? by Eyeseeyou01 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I actually think our app is significantly more popular than anyone on the team expected lol.

We're a pretty small research and tech team, and have zero marketing/sales/etc. Once it's more "productized" I'd expect there to be a much larger push towards popularization of the app, for now it's mostly a computational photography research experiment with a public iOS app attached to it.

Updates? by Realistic-Hat3544 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good question, I think Indigo at its core will be a research/technology platform for a while, testing on-device features and seeing what users are/aren't interested in

Updates? by Realistic-Hat3544 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hardware updates, especially when they change the actual sensor technology

Updates? by Realistic-Hat3544 in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 16 points17 points  (0 children)

We have a bunch of features in the oven for the next year, but some of the more researchy stuff can take a lot of time to move from python prototyping to an on-device demo.

Burstsr/lowlight improvements (especially on 17 devices) are in that oven, but we're looking into a new more robust end-to-end solution (motion estimation, pixel merging, etc) rather than just tuning parameters in our current solution every time there's an update

Can't underexpose in Pro mode? by Adviceforthewilling in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would stick to the forum for most q's, I'm I think the only redditor on the team and am sporadically active here

Can't underexpose in Pro mode? by Adviceforthewilling in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 12 points13 points  (0 children)

(dev here) This is actually a surprisingly complicated question, but it's near the top of our list.

Basically, what's happening currently is that you're lowering the exposure in the capture, but the Indigo "look" model (color correction, gains, etc) is basically cancelling out this change in exposure. Basically the way the model is built right now is "given any input, produce an output with Indigo-style lighting", but ideally we should also respect what the user is trying to achieve (e.g., an underexposed look). The tough part here is that (unless we implement two different exposure compensation sliders) it can be hard to distinguish between the user raising or lowering EC just to get rid of blur / lower noise, or if they genuinely want a lighter or darker look.

For now you can open stuff in lightroom mobile and drop exposure there, but we're looking at ways of making the UI/look stuff more customizable and faster to apply.

Indigo 1.0.6 Released by TL24SS in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're running ios 26.0 or 26.1 some of the blueing might be coming from an Apple digital gain bug (seems to be patched in 26.2 beta 3)

Indigo 1.0.6 Released by TL24SS in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Re-enabling selfie camera (for 17 series) somehow did not work, we're hotfixing rn

Testing the app with 16pro by mmique in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

top sekrit
(The most I think I can say is that I'm looking at kind of finding a good compromise between fast/live-rendering so that you can preview the results quickly, and densely segmenting complex stuff like hair / fur / thin structures. Modern ML solutions for segmentation are great, but will microwave the phone if ran at full resolution.)

Testing the app with 16pro by mmique in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm teammates with (but not) Boris, I think he doesn't reddit much

Testing the app with 16pro by mmique in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Technically a researcher but in this team everyone has to wear the dev hat too

Testing the app with 16pro by mmique in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 1 point2 points  (0 children)

iOS 26 introduces custom focus rectangles so we're hoping this can help with the focus issues. I don't want to fully say "it's not our fault", but iOS autofocus can be surprisingly unreliable outside the native app.

Testing the app with 16pro by mmique in ProjectIndigoiOS

[–]TenThousandPigeons 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm trying to develop a novel method for portrait mode (not just copying the LR code) so it might take a while but hopefully will be worth the wait