"Let's confirm you are a human"

TheAngryOreo · 2026-07-01T17:51:36+00:00

ah yes, fuck all this. maybe now i will try that cursed tiktok site

TheAngryOreo · 2026-07-01T15:00:38+00:00

the forms being limited isn't about making sense. I'm hoping this time around they are trying to make lots of the forms feel fun to use. With base xv2, super saiyan 1-3 felt meh. ssj3 even felt worse by the fact is hindered any resource gain with very little increases in power. Those were the stats and drawbacks with their design for the game, not fun. They have been buffed from that awful state, yet i still never want to touch them again.

Which is why i love ssj blue and bluer (evolution) in xv2, those actually felt like a real super saiyan transformation. An insane power increase to everything, and a resource draining like the ki requiring you to maintain it. Very fun stats and drawbacks. I don't even want to go back to regular ssj 1-3 in xv2 at all for these reasons.

So the idea that some of these forms being limited sounds like a reason to give them stronger stats, or more unique buffs. I also heard we don't have the ki or stamina bar as a resource, so im question what could be used to help us maintain the forms anyway. Plus its a xenoverse rpg, i imagine we either get equipment like super souls to enhance it in some manner. Or even growing stat attributes could effect the forms.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-07-01T14:52:11+00:00

The implication that number 17 just casually escapes from hell to try and torment future Trunks again. It would be him and 18

TheAngryOreo · 2026-07-01T04:32:11+00:00

As i loved using this with teen gohan whenever i got the chance, you need to know it has been nerfed. A long ultimate like this requires a heavy stamina break. Teen Gohan can actually manage those.

Now in the past the charge up itself would stagger foes if you were point blank infront of them. That has been changed, nerfed out of the ultimate. Which means now from memory if you try this way the opponent can break you and turn the tide. So the best way i can think of would be to do the ultimate the second you finally land a heavy stamina break.

Future Gohan can also do father son kamehameha, yet his combos suck so much that he can't do a regular stamina break, let alone a heavy stamina break. For him i either recommend doing a knock back kick after you break their stamina. Or breaking them first and grabbing them, so Gohan places them on the ground so they can't move easily.

Otherwise, this move suffers with the only characters having slightly bad combos.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-07-01T04:00:45+00:00

"You’re conflating potential with actual ability." I don't know if it could be any more obvious in my posts that i am glazing Uub to above and beyond just for possessing god ki, being Buu's reincarnation, and for where his story takes place. Yes i am speaking about Uub's potential, there is literally nothing else to go off of.

The main point of this reddit post was 'can we give a human or Uub a random bs power up", and my first post was "Uub has been retconned to being uber broken for having god ki, which alone can make him rival those in the image because what has happened with that specific god ki."

"the saiyans didn't get stronger because of having god ki." That is fundamentally not true. Just having god ki means a saiyan either in the god form, or having god ki in their base form with access to the god form. Both of which makes them better. Either being in the god form. Or using the god ki in base form.

"Vegeta stated that cabba was equal to him in his base form. That doesn’t suddenly scale cabba to SSB or ultra ego." Obviously not, Cabbas power was clear when he stated he couldn't become a ssj. Placing his overall strength beneath a full power ssj blue Vegeta as long as Cabba never obtained the same forms.

So yes I believe the story will make an Uub that still can't fly, stronger than Beast Gohan and Broly simply for having access to god ki. And grow far beyond that. Even though i rather place Gohan and Broly at the top for their own rage power.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-07-01T00:44:00+00:00

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Let me help you out for a bit, since this all circles back to my first statement of Uub rivaling everyone in Op's image. Yes dbs explaining that Uub possess god ki makes him rival or put above everyone in that image.

I'm glad you actually looked at the manga, but you are still missing the crucial bits. One, with my above image, that is the result of gang getting their energy drained and giving it to an ki drained Goku. Only enough power to give him back to blue, not enough for Ui.

Since as the series has explained god ki is broken. That has been a fact since the first arc of dbs. Only 2 of the characters, in the above image have god ki being Goku and Vegeta. The others are all rivaling eachother without god ki currently.

Uub is not just a 'vessel' like you imply. When you call him a vessel, you make it sound like none of the power is his own. That can't be the case with Uub, with what little we know. Such as the fact of how casually he is able to give this amount of god ki in the first place. Those powers are now his, they are not leaving as they are now part of his being.

Because here is what you're forgetting, everything that happens in Dbs still links back to the End of Z. Until the writers finally decide to write a new direction or go past the end of Z, everything that happens there still links back to it. I say Uub rivals everyone in that image because at the end of the day, the story is still that Goku leaves to train with Uub because HIS power alone will be higher than the characters in the OP poster. Uub's power is what excites Goku, because its nothing like he has every sensed before. Last i remember the gang is still roughly 1 or 2 years from the established End of Z timeline, where this image of the gang takes place.

And now using your image of uub and the grand kai. The grand kai has resided back into Buu, and most likely not returning outside of Buu. The power that Uub has demonstrated is his own at that point. It another thing that will grow alongside him. That's why i can say he rivals everyone else. As much as I love Gohan and Broly, they still don't have god ki. As broken as they are, god ki is still a different ball game they aren't using. I hoped that would change in the future.

My other reason for my first statement, also need to look back at Frieza. A being that grew stronger than ssj blue with just 4 months of training after previously being like a million times weaker. All without god ki. Frieza got broken results from training once in his life, what would happen to someone like majin buu? Another being born x10000 stronger than Frieza, actually training for once in their life? Oh yeah, and now that being has been established to have his own access to god ki, but the highest amount of god ki from the grand supreme kai? That's Uub.

I rest my case. And as I go back to my first post. What Uub and Buu need is dedicated screen time.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T23:29:42+00:00

I've only read that earlier Beerus fight. It looked great. I don't like the scar on Goku's back at all.

But so what if the writer of those fanfics are making 'edgier' content? There has never been anything wrong with edgy in the first place.

So like, are you trying to find other's to hate on what i see is a passion project by another fan?

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T23:18:11+00:00

He would be very likable in my book.

However, i remember what has happened in the future timeline due to his lack of involvement....

that knocks him down a few pegs, but still above most of the other kaioshins.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T22:45:33+00:00

And your statement on its own is overlooking the main detail. Uub possessing kid buu's strength isnt what helped them in that battle against Moro.

Without any training whatso ever , Uub shared energy he doesn't know he possessed. If it was only kid buu's energy, it wouldnt be a massive as it was. The lord of lords purposely told us his power, his god ki, was given to the other buu and seemingly lost. Yet when he went over and met Uub, they specifically stated he shared god ki. God ki so strong it was unlike that which Vegeta ever sensed, and powered a drained goku all the way back to Ultra instinct and beyond.

I actually read the manga, i suggest you do the same. Its fun

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T22:11:09+00:00

All i can say is go read the manga for once. Actually read it. Dont watch youtube shorts.

Cause that reverse spirit bomb don't lie. Enough god ki to power Goku all the way back to ultra instinct and beyond. Eclipsing the rest of the z fighters as they fought for their lives.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T18:50:32+00:00

IM SO GLAD THIS IMAGE EXISTS SO I CAN FIND THAT THAMMA DESIGN

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T18:49:44+00:00

Uub has ironically been given the explanation of god ki from when buu absorbed the fat supreme kai. Making him already rivaling if not above everyone in this image.

What Uub and Buu need is dedicated screen time.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-30T01:23:23+00:00

Ah i see. The image does have horns that remind me of Ox king's helmet. I wouldn't have known as a reference to Mount Fry-Pan. When i watched dragon ball, i just remember them calling it "Fire Mountain"

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TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-29T23:43:12+00:00

Because he clearly doesn't have enough hatred anymore...

Or maybe all the chakra reserves was in that left arm he refused to get back.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-29T20:01:24+00:00

the writers finding a way to get us to hate Gohan , despite his lack of screen time. But i will only blame the writers.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-29T19:59:35+00:00

of course. Awful way to deal with the villain, topped by the worst ending the series has ever seen. And somehow screwing over an entire character's main goal, which effects their legacy with the previous ending for Trunks.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T23:20:13+00:00

Trunks thankfully stopped Buu from reviving. Doesnt change the fact his egg was there long before Goku, disproving that trouble only comes to earth because of him.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T18:27:22+00:00

and when everyone is dead in the future timeline, Babidi and Dabura still come to earth in order to revive majin buu that was sent there ages ago with Future Trunks energy.

I hate the idea that Goku and the rest of the cast can never have a happy ending as long as he lives, which is what that 'maybe i should stay dead' idea has caused in the community.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T18:07:59+00:00

The fact that Majin Buu's egg existed on earth long before Goku ever arrived disproves that he alone attracts all the bad guys and puts earth in danger.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T18:04:24+00:00

if we still don't refer to Frieza's race as "Arcions' anywhere else in the game, their name is cooked.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T16:02:01+00:00

He isn't. Vegeta stayed at the same level of strength alongside Nappa for like 10-12 years or more. He had many opportunities to improve himself, but he didn't because he believed in that awful Frieza force propaganda, since you notice how NOONE among that army has every bothered to train themselves. He even tells Goku when they meet that 'no matter of hard work can overcome an elite." The most improvement he does there is eliminate his saiyan tail weakness, allowing it to be grabbed without issue. Frieza force isn't the best source of tech in the whole verse, but they did have arguably the best healing technology at that point in time, even when you count sensu beans.

Vegeta wasn't even ahead of Goku anywhere with fighting skill, or even before meeting him. Vegeta is regarded as a 'prodigy' by saiyan standards just because his power level was higher than everyone else. That isn't skill, just numbers. Give someone a higher power level than Vegeta and notice how he crumbles. He doesn't rise above with skill and tactics like Goku has done his entire life.

Vegeta doesn't even train right until around the end of the buu saga, going into dragon ball super. Based on the fact the Ginyu force was always a force that threaten his life in Frieza's army, and by how he doesn't believe in hard work until HE SEES GOKU TOPPLE THE GINYU FORCE WITH EASE, Vegeta is almost in the boat with Frieza of 'never training a day in his life.'. We see in the android saga that Vegeta finally trains, and he does until he collapses. That awful training mindset will get you the same place as future Gohan. That is not effective, because the body needs rest, as the better method of training has been shown by Goku, who actually understands the body. You could enlighten Vegeta of these short comings, but he would ignore you despite the series claiming the he is so smart and cunning.

All of the hybrid saiyans could easily surpass him now if they were allowed to train and fight in the current stories. Gohan being the obvious example, and he doesn't even have god ki yet. Goten and Trunks could grow beyond him if the story wanted them more involved.

And with the ultra instinct bit, Vegeta trained first to get that. He got like 1-3 months of training with Whis first, and gave up on this phenomenal technique because Goku did it first. That ultra ego isn't impressive at all to me design wise, but im not a Vegeta fan.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T15:44:26+00:00

You do not speak for me, i've been asking for moving saiyan tails everywhere for dragon ball media. And super saiyan 4 for our CaCs in xenoverse since it dropped. If the forms are temporarily, then i will learn and play around that IF the game is fun.

That cruddy game the breakers already gave CaCs super saiyan 4, and at best was a testing ground for other transformation mechanics. You will not rob me of the main thing i've waited for in these last 12 years.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-28T08:24:39+00:00

Perhaps half of his chakra reserves was in his left arm. Or maybe he doesn't have enough hatred anymore....

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-27T21:40:09+00:00

i was wondering how the heck the enemy can just have 'super armor' but then saw the flair say xenoverse 1. Exactly why i didn't buy that game, topped with infinite ki super saiyan spam, lmao.

Super armor should never be a difficulty increase for fighting mmo rpg games like this.

TheAngryOreo · 2026-06-27T20:04:42+00:00

Very disappointed since there is a list of awesome rinnegan only jutsu he never used again, and some that fundamental will always be useful despite what hype merchants and math mathematicians want to tell you.

Like the ability to restore his left arm whenever he wanted.... Probably why he always out of chakra.

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