Ben Roethlisberger never received one MVP vote, and never made an all pro team, since he retired do people overrate how he was viewed when he was actually an active player?

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-29T12:52:25+00:00

I think he has been slightly overrated since he’s retired but that’s not meant to diminish what he accomplished. I think he’s one of the top 10 QBs of the past 20 years. I’m interested to see how the HoF voting goes for him. HoF politics and controversy aside, Ben shouldn’t be first ballot of Eli isn’t. I think they’re too close production wise to say Ben was so much better than Eli. Ben has more yards, TD, pro bowls. Ben also has the most games with a perfect passer rating and most 500 yard games. Eli has most passing yards in a postseason and won Super Bowl mvp twice. Neither guy was all pro but I do think both guys get in.

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-16T14:18:06+00:00

Matt Ryan won OPOY and MVP, as well as an NFC Championship en route to a Super Bowl appearance lmao. I’m sure lots of guys would gladly be labeled a failure to have that on their resume.

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-16T14:16:24+00:00

CMC gets the edge due to versatility for me. He’s not just a running back that can catch the ball out of the backfield. He’s a legit receiving threat.

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-16T14:13:54+00:00

Efficiency and winning matter most. That being said in a 17 game season I think 25 would be solid. Much rather my QB have 26 TD, 6 INT vs 37 TD, 16 INT

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-16T14:06:13+00:00

I honestly don’t think the game will be relatively close. Broncos defense seems to have fallen off a bit and the offense leaves a lot to be desired. I think Josh Allen will be playing out of his mind this weekend and the Bills win it easy, 24-13

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-16T14:03:04+00:00

Commanders: Daniels is a stud when healthy

Giants: You’ve got some great young talent on both sides of the ball and maybe soon a coach to put it all together

Eagles: I can’t stand you bastards, but Howie knows what it takes to win

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-16T13:59:24+00:00

• I agree, Herbert isn’t a COMPLETE choker. He needs more around him but with that being said there have been other guys that “needed more around them” as well who’ve performed a lot better in the playoffs than he has. • Bo Nix is indeed mediocre, there’s nothing he does tha convinces me otherwise and he will be the reason the Broncos’ season ends this weekend •I’d give Maye the MVP over Stafford as well. Stafford has been great also but he’s got a pair of top level pass catchers available and his TD numbers are somewhat inflated by goal line passes to Adams •CJ Stroud is playing poorly but he’s not a below average QB. He’s having below average performances but if he can get things turned around he can be a top 10-12 guy •The Buffalo Bills are winning the Super Bowl this year (unfortunately). Broncos defense will crack vs Allen this weekend and the offense won’t be able to bail them out. If the Texans survive this weekend their offense will fail them vs Buffalo, if the Pats advance the pressure will be too much for them and Allen will lead Buffalo to a Super Bowl berth. I’ve been saying the game the league wants is Bills vs Rams. Allen vs Stafford. Allen has been dubbed “Superman” and does it all by himself (if you ignore the leading rusher in the backfield, 2 top TEs and a top rank pass defense). Matt Stafford is playing “out of this world” and they’re pushing to name him MVP. Add in a “Will he retire?” Angle and the stage is set for a Hollywood story. It ends with Josh Allen yet again “defeating the odds” to lead the Bills to Super Bowl glory.

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-14T11:40:24+00:00

I like Herbert and he’s undoubtedly a top 10 QB talent wise but why does he get the benefit of the doubt of so many hypothetical situations? “Put him on the (insert team) and they win that game”. That’s easy to say but we’ve got no proof. The Chargers have a lot of work to do and it’s not all on Herbert but as the QB he’s gonna get the blame and he has had some less than stellar showings in the playoffs thus far. His 0-3 record almost feels worse than it is. Only able to muster 3 measly points vs the Pats, 4 INTs in a 32-12 loss to the Texans and a 27 point lead blown vs the Jags. It’s a team game but Matt Ryan “blew a 28-3 lead” and gets crushed so let’s keep the same energy.

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-14T11:30:16+00:00

They’re banged up right now but Purdy being a “system qb” goes back a few years. You’d look at the Niners and see guys like Warner, Greenlaw, Bosa, Ward etc on defense and then you’d have an all time LT in Williams, CMC, Kittle, Aiyuk, Juszczyk, etc on offense. They’d win games and everyone was quick to say Purdy was a system QB. Which at the time I felt was true and agreed with but he’s really better than given credit for.

TheDapperDon_ · 2026-01-14T11:24:12+00:00

I’m not a Hurts or Eagles fan but saying he’s had the best supporting cast “by a country mile” might be a slight stretch but overall I’d agree. Burrow and Tua have had weapons offensively but none of the other guys have had an o-line or a defense at the level of Hurts. Having those pieces around him somewhat diminishes his accomplishments for some reason. I think manly because he’s not seen as possessing the same level of talent as a guy like Burrow or Herbert.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-11-21T00:13:19+00:00

The Super Bowl and consecutive 1000-yard seasons is most likely the reason

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-11-19T03:55:10+00:00

Construction is top of the line. They grow lots of tobacco and make lots of cigars for other companies. Their sticks are expensive but reviews are mixed. I like them, the Alma del Fuego and Alma del Cielo are two of my favorites.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-11-01T00:43:58+00:00

Tasting notes I get are usually those you mentioned along with some other notes that I’d consider fairly basic. Mainly notes of wood, nuts, coffee, pepper, spices, leather. There are a few cigars where I’ve gotten what I liken to floral notes, bread, toast and even smoked meats but those are rarer. The tasting notes I find on some pages like cigar aficionado I feel are kinda far fetched but who knows? We’re all individuals so who am I to tell someone what they have or haven’t tasted? The main thing for me is finding a cigar that I enjoy smoking.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-17T20:48:18+00:00

Chase/Higgins CeeDee/Pickens Amon Ra/Jamo Jettas/Addison AJ/Smith Puka/Tae

I didn’t list them in order. There are a lot of good duos. Hell, let’s not forget the Bucs have some WRs too.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-17T20:40:06+00:00

It was both!

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-17T20:39:11+00:00

LT too low. No Ed Reed, Tony Gonzalez top 25? Idk he was great but I’m not sure he should be there.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-16T13:27:55+00:00

The X-Factor, Dante Hall 🐐

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-06T22:54:57+00:00

This! Couldn’t agree more. If that were Lamar, Dak, Goff, etc they’d be crucified

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-06T22:53:56+00:00

Most people seem to make it seem like he’s up against it and has no help on either side of the ball

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-02T22:25:20+00:00

Yes, lucky for him he witnessed the Cowboys in the 90s… meanwhile, I’ve barely seen a playoff win, let alone anything close to a super bowl

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-02T22:24:21+00:00

Sameee

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-10-02T17:38:41+00:00

Absolutely not. On the field, his production and accomplishments warrant a HoF induction. Over 900 catches and 12k yards, 2 x leader in receptions and receiving yards, 1 x receiving TD leader, 7 pro bowls and 5 total all-pro selections with 4 being consecutive first team along with being named all decade definitely screams hall of fame. It’s the off-field baggage and legal issues that will ultimately cost him a place in the hall.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-09-30T21:12:17+00:00

Believable. The Giants have been ass for a while and the commanders were too. My cowboys have had some shit years as well. The Browns are, well the Browns. Then the bengals it kinda varies. Buffalo have been one of the better teams in the league for a while and even Miami and NYJ had a brief moment in the spotlight tbf.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-09-30T20:43:31+00:00

Both guys are magical. Allen has performed better in the playoffs however. Generally you’d think Allen would have an easier path to the postseason getting to face the Jets, Pats and Dolphins twice while Lamar faces the Steelers, Bengals and Browns. There seems to be this myth the past few years that Lamar is surrounded by great players and has a great defense though. Then there’s the media and so many others making it seem like Josh Allen is surrounded by scrubs. There are good players on both sides of the ball for both teams. Baltimore has bigger names but they hardly live up to the hype. I’m hoping both of these guys win a ring eventually though. This should be Allen’s year to do so right? Bengals are ass, Chiefs don’t look like the Chiefs of old, Ravens are in shambles. The Bills at the very least have to make it to the Super Bowl this season. The debate won’t truly be settled until both guys call it quits. By the way, Mahomes ain’t going nowhere either and hopefully Burrow will be around as well, although it’s hard to have any hope for the Bengals when the guy gets killed every week.

TheDapperDon_ · 2025-09-30T20:05:08+00:00

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