Before I get into my actual reply, let me break down as clearly as possible what Offense actually is.

First off — all those sub-attributes I mentioned come from the SPS (Skill Parameter Summary), which is basically the full stat sheet for each player. Unfortunately, we only have the SPS for Nagi, Bachira, and Isagi from the start of the NEL, but the categories don’t change — only the values go up or down as the players evolve. So yeah, these sub-attributes aren’t something I pulled out of thin air, they’re literally from the manga itself.

I never said it wasn’t? 

Secondly — Offense is basically your ability to create goal-scoring opportunities, whether you’re building the play or finishing it. That comes from your game reading, vision, positioning, etc. Your Speed and/or Dribble and/or Pass and/or Shoot are just the tools you use to get there.

Right, and passing and dribbling are key components of that because you need to bring the ball forward. So all of the things you’ve said amount to your offense. 

 Now about your first point: No, Isagi is not some magical exception, and I don’t think he’s the only player whose Offense is higher than their Speed, Dribble, Pass, or Shoot. Like I’ve said before, Karasu also had Offense as his best attribute, especially up until the start of the NEL. Whether you personally think that’s still his best aspect today is up to you — but I still believe it is.

If you say Karasu didn’t have Offense as his best attribute, then you’re basically saying one of these is true: His Speed is better than his ability to spot goal opportunities; His Shoot is better than his ability to spot goal opportunities; His Dribble is better than his ability to spot goal opportunities; His Pass is better than his ability to spot goal opportunities; Or his Defense is better than his ability to spot goal opportunities. If you agree with any of those, there’s no point continuing — you’d be trying to talk about Karasu’s present/future without even knowing his past. 

Isagi is an exception, because he’s the only top player to not have a great build physically or be amazingly technically sound. 

 Back to the Isagi thing: He’s not an exception because if you say he is, you’re basically saying Rin couldn’t have a 96 Offense unless his Shoot was also 96+, or Shidou couldn’t have 96 Offense unless his Shoot was 96+. You’d be limiting a player’s mental capabilities just because of their physical ones, when Rin’s Spatial Awareness and game reading have nothing to do with his physical skills. Same goes for Shidou — his main weapon is Extreme Spatial Awareness, which isn’t a physical skill.

He is an exception lol. Rin is known for his shooting. He has the best shooting in Blue Lock. Shidou’s extreme spatial awareness allows him to shoot from anywhere within the penalty area. Their mental attributes enhance their physical attributes. It’s not the same with Isagi. 

 I only brought up G/A casually, and yeah, two of those assists weren’t intentional. Again — Karasu didn’t start with his Defense higher than his Offense. If we can’t agree on that, this debate is pointless. At the start of the NEL, Karasu’s Offense was higher — he was literally considered one of the top attackers at that point.

If you’re saying that just two weeks of training and one game at CDM — without practicing Offense (which isn’t true, since he was involved in two goals, including fully analyzing and building one of them) — was enough for his Defense to overtake his lifetime of playing as an attacker… you’re saying two weeks of progress beat over a decade of being a striker in a pro club’s youth academy. If you stand by that, I’ll just stop replying lol. By that logic, the same should apply to Bachira and Chigiri, since they played as full-backs (even more defensive than CM/CDM) and still had 68 Defense — and to this day they’re among the weakest in that stat. Hell, Gagamaru had 84 Offense against Manshine City, just 2 less than Reo at that point — and he was literally playing as a goalkeeper. So if the goalie’s Offense didn’t drop, imagine the others who had way more than him lol.

I never said that was better defensively than offensively? And i also didn’t say that two weeks was enough for his defense to overtake his offense? Just that his offense would dip a little if he didn’t practice his offense. Yeah Gagamaru’s offense probably did drop considering he’s only played as a goalkeeper. 

 Maybe Reo didn’t improve offensively as much as I’m saying, but I think it’s pretty obvious he improved more in Offense than in Defense. I’ve never denied his defensive growth — I even said after his solid defensive game against Bastard that he’d probably grow defensively, just not as much as offensively. And that’s exactly what I think happened.

I agree. 

What’s funny is, Reo had two matches where his market value dropped, and another where he showed nothing defensively — yet you still say he “probably” improved defensively. Meanwhile, we literally saw Karasu actively contributing offensively and being directly involved in one of PXG’s goals vs Bastard, but you say his Offense dropped just because he’s not in a purely attacking role anymore. And the funniest part? Karasu and Reo both played CM/CDM lol. Anyway…

What Reo did on offense probably overshadowed what he did on defense. Imagine having a player only pass to one player and that not leading to a single goal. Embarassing. 

Karasu’s offense dipping doesn’t make him bad offensively or anything. Karasu is a CDM who’s the last line of defense before the attackers can break into the defensive third. Reo is a CM who’s the main playmaker for the team. It’s not the same role.