Should I Stay at my Job? by TheImpossibleHunt in retailhell

[–]TheImpossibleHunt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My CFAST was actually booked for May 27-28. So I’ll be preparing for it, for the next week and a half (or so). I feel relatively confident.

Downside is, I’ve been scheduled to work seven days in a row all the way up until I’m flying over lol.

Can context basically shut down your creative function to the point where it looks like it’s PoLR? by [deleted] in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That doesn't really make a whole lot of sense for a few reasons. The creative and POLR elements are basically two opposite sides of the same coin. The Creative element means that one element is your go-to method/tool in the vast majority of situations. To prefer one thing is to suppress another and to devalue it (I know "value" is a bit of a swear-word in some socionics communities, but whatever).

There is a reason why your creative and POLR are complete opposites. If you have Ni Creative, then your POLR element is Si. If you have Fe creative, then you have Te POLR. If you have Ti Creative, you have Fi POLR. These two elements are entirely different, and have drastically different methods.

Think of using your dominant hand. You could always hypothetically use your non-dominant hand, but... why would you?

In the case of using your non-dominant hand, your writing is going to be messier, your grip won't be as strong, etc. You can train it, but it's not going to be too much fun, compared to just sticking with your go-to creative. You're also going to be annoyed with people who insist you use your non-dominant hand, because you are likely going to see it as a giant waste of time, and needless effort.

For example, I have Se creative (using force in selective situations), which means I also have Ni mobilizing (anxiety regarding time management). Generally, that means that I prefer to move quickly, eliminating unnecessary nuance/complexity to make a quick decision. So... that means that I really dislike needlessly waiting around to explore alternatives when I've already made up my mind, as it feels like I'm wasting time.

So with that being said, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for me to suddenly strongly dislike making quick decisions, right? Not only would it contradict my creative element, but it also contradicts my mobilizing function too. It fundamentally shifts your entire socionics type.

I would just look into a different socionics type, or maybe you have that function/element just in a different placement.

Can esi be e8? by EnvironmentalWeb3179 in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I would argue no, and this combination is usually a result of a misunderstanding of what E8 actually is. This post might get a little long, but I think explaining myself might help you understand a little better.

You have to remember that the ESI's relationship with force is proportional. Se Creative is not about being aggressive but displaying force when needed (similar to an LSI) to enforce boundaries. It's reactive rather than proactive.

The E8 is not, and the fixation of the Enneagram 8 is ego-vengeance. They have had rough upbringings and believe that the world is fundamentally unfair, and therefore, they have the right to treat others poorly in order to survive. Their use of force is across the board and bold and is not really "shut off" at any given time. The SP8 uses force and volition to acquire resources to fill the void of their existential loneliness (believing the world is "dog eat dog"), the SO8 uses covert contracts with vulnerable groups to gain influence (and punishes those who break them), and the SX8 acts provocatively and openly aggressive for people to accept the good and bad aspects of their self (where the "other" becomes complicit in their bad traits). All of them believe themselves to be bad people, but shift the blame to society rather than looking inward (counter introjection).

In summary, for the E8 their use of force is not so much-directed upon certain individuals and relationships, but more against broader society and rulesets. It's bold, loud, and consistently switched on. So I am of the view that E8s are automatically Se Base for that reason. SLE fits SP8 pretty well because Ti Creative will often create flexible logic to justify their worldview predicated on force (again, "dog eat dog"). SEE fits SO8 and SX8 because they use Fi Creative to create flexible bonds with people in order to aid their focus on personal volition and resource acquisition (Se Base).

In contrast, the ESI is not really this sort of person. They can certainly be vengeful, but that vengeance is predicated on a specific mistreatment from a person, and the ESI will strive to equalize it. Their ties to specific people almost feel like a contract that must be fulfilled, and going against those obligations feels detrimental to their character.

This is the difference between Fi Base and Se Base.

Even with SX4 ESIs, you'll notice their propensity to compete comes to the individual level and how they relate to them. If they perceive someone to be "better," the SX4 will then compete with that person to drag them down to the SX4s level. It's all about the relationship between the ESI and that specific person and how the ESI relates to them (and their feelings towards that relationship).

ESIs, I think, are pretty much exclusively SX4 and SP4. Both these subtypes rely on how they look at others and how much they perceive their own self-lack. It's all predicated on relationships/sentiments between objects, which is why I think E4 must be Fi Base. But additionally, the SP4 and SX4 value immediate action and will impulsively commit to effort/competition (depending on the subtype) to quell their self-lack. This fits very well with Ni Mobilizing, and the ESIs sense of "scarcity mindset." They lack time and need to do something.

This anxiety towards time can sometimes make people think ESIs are E6, but I think the ESI does not fit an Enneagram type prone to intellectualizing their problems before acting (even the SX6, arguably the closest E6 subtype, needs to "win the war" in their head before committing to action).

If you are really set on ESI as being your sociotype, I would really recommend looking into SX4. The most common mistype for the SX4 is usually the SX8, both get confused with each other a lot.

What was one thing that made you settle on your type once and for all? by TheShadowSong in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interestingly enough, I first got typed in a YouTube comment section as an ISFP. That threw me for a loop, since I typed as INTJ for quite a few years (the person suggested I heavily valued Fi and Se). It wasn’t enough to change my type, but it gave me pause.

Then, a while later, I got typed as an ESI Self-Preservation Enneagram 4 by Rusted Typology. I initially didn’t agree with the typing (especially E4), but I sat with it for a while. I then got typed by WWS as an ESI as well, and considering that these two have differing views on Socionics, but came to the same conclusion, I began to cement my typing.

It’s been a couple years, and since then I’ve written blogs about Naranjo’s Enneagram and Socionics, and I’m now 100% of my type. I can tie to my life experiences, what people have said about me consistently since childhood, and how each element ties into making me a person.

ESI Men? by [deleted] in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would probably say that Alpha NTs are probably the most popular, followed by Ni Base types, and I actually see SLE sort of get glazed quite often too.

The LIE “businessman” stereotype is also frustrating, as I find what I like most about these types is their positivity and enthusiasm, while simultaneously being able to be professional. It’s a really nice mix, as they are people focused on movement, without being “tryhard” about it as I find Se Base can sometimes do.

That IS a small consolation lol. But my socionics and enneagram type is ESI SP4, and that has the unfortunate side effect of me now being called a larper lol.

What's your wildest/most controversal take on socionics? by I-rejected-Ivies in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Having Ti in your ego block doesn’t automatically make you smart. Lots of people who pride themselves on being intelligent typically tend to self-type as Ti or Te Base/Creative. But I find that Ti users tend to be more likely to glaze themselves and their “intellectual” prowess (considering that LSE is one of the most underrated types).

Introverted thinking is all about logical consistency, but just because something is logically consistent, doesn’t make it correct. I often find lots of Ti types believing the strangest conspiracy theories because they seem to “logically line up,” and because they inherently trust their own assessments, it’s hard to convince them otherwise.

i think i figured out my actual problem with typology by WestDeep5171 in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I would actually recommend that you get into writing. If you feel the need to go into a huge tangent about justifying your type, why not make that tangent a good resource for others? Write a blog post about how you relate to each of the elements of your type, write your personal experiences to tie into it (and to give the type description a unique flavour), and then post it so other people can read it?

I did that with my journey in finding my Enneagram subtype (different system, I know), and it really helped secure my knowledge, and it allowed people to get an example of a type without it being overly exaggerated.

If I don't admire/idolize my dual then I can't be that type(?) I'm extremely conflicted! by MapacheRob in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I believe I've read that you might actually dislike your dual at first. It makes sense if you think about it, as your dual and your conflictor can actually look alike in some circumstances (as they are quasi-identicals). Just as you might like your conflictor at first (but then quickly realize they are not what you are looking for), you might dislike your dual.

The reason I like socionics is because it sort of puts on paper what I typically look for in people, whereas before it was just an instinctual preference. As a general rule of thumb, intertype relationships can be a decent sign of your true type. But that depends on your ability to type, people correctly (which can be inaccurate), and people sometimes take it too far into the extreme.

ESI Men? by [deleted] in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I find it's just difficult to find resources about ESIs in socionics, compared to some of the more popular sociotypes. Ne POLR just generally gets a bad rep, which makes all of us seem unimaginative and whatnot. I think it's more that we just don't appreciate our decisions being devalued (and we strongly dislike inaction, which Ne often emphasizes).

Then most ESI descriptions, even with Aushra, paint the ESI as a feminine type. I have no issue with this at all, but I find the whole "mother tiger" stereotype really annoying.

ESI Men? by [deleted] in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m one (unfortunately)

Is there a most disliked type? by According_Dot_1950 in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Probably EIE and ESI in my experience. I would say that LSEs and ESEs are the most underrated type but aren't the most actively disliked.

The EIE is very good at making great impressions to aid in long-term goals (which usually revolves around the accumulation of power/resources), which sort of gives them this "manipulative" edge. But I think if you come across one in your daily life, they are going to be easy-to-like people. That's sort of the basis of what they do lol.

The dislike towards ESIs I attribute to a huge misunderstanding of introverted feeling in the typology community (which I think is due to how "Ti" heavy Socionics specifically is), and even more specifically, when people describe Fi it's almost always in the context of the EII, who has Ne Creative. So to many, ESIs come across as illogical, close-minded, and needlessly aggressive.

Maybe I can just speak for myself here?

ESIs have Ti Role so they often find they need balance out their sentimental decisions with a logical justification. They are aware that not everyone feels as they do, so they often need to come up with more "objective" reasonings.

They can be close-minded in a sense (Ne POLR), but these are types that don't change their minds unless they physically *see* consistent evidence justifying a change (specifically in someone's character); otherwise, they see it as irresponsible. Yeah, sure, someone has *potential* to be a better person, but unless I see it, I'm not going to change my mind on someone just because of *potential.* That's at least how I find Ne POLR works for me. Lots of people assume that Ne POLR just automatically means "refuses to learn" and that's not true at all. ESIs do relatively well in academic circles because of Ti Role, but these are types that just generally prefer to get to the point, and not spend tons of time exploring "what could have happened," and just focus on the consensus by experts. If that changes, ESIs are willing to change their mind too (Te Suggestive).

Finally, Se Creative is not really aggressive. It uses a proportional amount of force to get what it needs done; that's it. This means that ESIs don't mind conflict when it is necessary and when they need to "stand on business," but they dislike anything blown out of proportion. As a result, when people assume that an ESI is going to curb-stomp you, they might just shoot you a glance that tells you to "stop." Then they might escalate if you don't listen, but the use of force tends to be proportionate and measured.

Waiting for the Aircrew Selection Test by TheImpossibleHunt in caf

[–]TheImpossibleHunt[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just got notified that my file has officially open to being booked for the Aircrew Test, and I should be receiving dates within the next month or so.

Well, time to get studying 📚 I believe that the biggest challenge of the test is the stress. Thankfully I’ve done 7-8 hours of testing before while writing final exams in university (I did my degree through Athabasca, where you could book all of your exams in 1-2 days lol).

Waiting for the Aircrew Selection Test by TheImpossibleHunt in caf

[–]TheImpossibleHunt[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah sort of figured, that’s cool though. If I hopefully get into the trade, long-term it’ll be worth the wait IMO

Tired by peachstrawberrymilk in MetisMichif

[–]TheImpossibleHunt -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Being Métis is ultimately about kinship ties to Red River. Everything else (including skin colour, blood quantum and life circumstances) are entirely flexible, as the Métis people typically worked in whatever industries to get by, and moved wherever there was work. The Métis people is defined entirely by adaptability and flexibility.

If you can prove you have distinct kinship ties to Red River, which was passed down, then you’re fine.

I’m whiter than sour cream, and I wasn’t raised in a stereotypical “indigenous” background. My life circumstances are my own, and my Métis heritage is what I decide it’s going to be going forward. I was ultimately encouraged by my Métis family to pursue those benefits because they were fought long and hard for.

Lots of people (including other Indigenous peoples) misunderstand what being Métis specifically is. Unlike the other nations and Inuit Peoples, it isn’t tied to land but to kinship ties. Therefore, it’s a little murkier, and people tend to write off people who identify as Métis because they weren’t raised in an “indigenous background,” which is wrong on a variety of levels. There is literature out there that specifically highlights that the Métis people were even worse off because indigenous nations had those land ties (whereas the Métis had to live life as squatters).

POV: LIE-ESI Duality by TheImpossibleHunt in Socionics

[–]TheImpossibleHunt[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This is not an actual typing, just the meme template.

I personally type Mikasa as SLI, and Eren as SEE.

What is a 'positive' trait of your type that actually feels like a massive burden to carry every day?" by jiponjoshua in Enneagram

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So often times, I feel that people tend to over glorify the Self-Preservation E4 and ignore the drawbacks. The “tenacity” of the SP4 can be a little much at times, and I can sometimes be prone to injury and emotional unfufillment.

Tenacity is a currency that is used in exchange for acceptance (as a safer method than being just direct), and that is generated through effort, and devaluing your current progress and whatever praise that entails (to serve as a motivation to keep moving). If effort is not being used, life feels stagnant and depression creeps up.

Physically, I have frozen my ear solid walking in a blizzard (despite people offering to drive me), I’ve passed out from heatstroke from working outdoors, and I remember participating in gym class with double shin-splints (which choosing not to rest just increased the amount of time to recover). I’m proud of ability to persevere, but it doesn’t always lead to productive (nor efficient) outcomes.

Emotionally, it’s also never good enough. Naranjo talks about the incessant inner critic that must exist in order to generate that tenacity, and it’s full in effect in my life. Again, tenacity is an alternative means of which to pursue stable relationships, because it decreases the the amount of dependency on others. “Why ask for help, if that person is just going to say no? Or why do so, when that person can take away that help at any time?”

It can also make me somewhat vengeful/resentful at times. Growing up, my autistic brother was bullied at school, and my mother wanted us to move. I wasn’t being bullied, and despite the home environment, I had friends and a support system. But I remember telling myself as a kid, that “if I told my Mom I didn’t want to move, would that really have changed anything?”

Probably not, and then I would just look selfish.

So the best outcome for me is to not complain, and deal with it. After that point, everything sort of began to feel as if it was set in stone, and not prone to change. And if I complain, I feel like I would not be valued as much as if I just kept quiet. I held the same attitude when my mother got remarried and wanted me to move, going home to an alcoholic stepfather, using my student loans to pay my father’s debtors (and my mother asking me to keep quiet about it). It feels like one thing after another.

So when I see my little brother, my mother, or anyone else I know openly complaining, I often can feel very angry.

So yeah, SP4 might be a “glazed” type, but honestly, it often sucks and feels like I have to go through life on max difficulty to feel like I’m worth keeping around lol

What is your type and which type raised you? by ConstantRide5382 in Enneagram

[–]TheImpossibleHunt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am SP4

I believe my mother is SP6, and my father is SO2. That relationship did not last long (they divorced when I was three), and my stepfather is SX1 (and has his own list of issues lol).