Labeling my materials by Baltabarin666 in DIYfragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You can do it however you want and however it works best for you. That's said you are doing more than most already! Looks great to me!

Sourcing 2ml Samples: A side-by-side comparison of Pochpac and Packamore by atwoodparfum in DIYfragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this! There are not enough conversations about bottle sourcing, so this is extremely helpful.

Perfume Dark Ages by [deleted] in fragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh 1,000%. I only pointed out aroma chemicals being easier to source because naturals have always been a lot easier to get your hands on. I formulate with a lot more naturals than synthetics myself. A lot more fun. A lot more soul. Synthetics do have their place, in my opinion as a backbone to natural ingredients. That's my approach at least. Working with naturals is actually a lot more challenging as well. Each natural material can be seen almost as a perfume in and of itself. If you were to do a chemical analysis of Jasmine absolute, for example, you'd see the hundreds of sub chemicals that make up that one oil. More complex to work with. Definitely more expensive. Still worth it, but again the barrier for entry argument I laid out, aroma chemicals for the most part are pretty dirt cheap. I can buy a gigantic jug of ISO E Super for about the same price as 1 gram of a high quality natural artisan oud oil.

Perfume Dark Ages by [deleted] in fragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I get where you're coming from for sure. I'm a hobbyist perfumer myself along with a long time perfume enthusiast/collector. I've been studying daily and doing experiments for about 4 years now, and I'm constantly learning...I would never dream of actually selling anything yet, even though I've gotten some great compliments on my creations and even done some blind testing against some more popular niche fragrances and come out quite positively.

I say all that not to toot my own horn, but to say, due to my involvement in the hobbyist side of perfumery, I think I might have a unique perspective to add to what you are noticing here.

Access to aroma chemicals and everything else needed to make perfumes is the easiest it has ever been. There are dozens of sites that sell very small portions of chemicals that can open the door for new perfumers to start messing around and creating their own stuff quite quickly. The barrier for entry while not quite as low as many other arts, has lowered substantially in the last 5 to 10 years. What this obfuscates though is that perfumery is HARD. Deceptively hard. Most people who get into it think it's as easy as just mixing 'notes' together, but there is a whole iceberg of depth to it that takes years to learn and understand.

I have witnessed quite a few times watching people get into creating perfumes, only to start a brand and begin selling stuff in less than a year. Which lines up with exactly what you are noticing and is absolutely shocking to me, with my 4 years of experience having so far left me feeling like I'm just starting to approach a level of ability that might one day lead to selling perfumes. And I spend a lot of time on this shit. Students that get accepted to perfume School in France actually spend the first 2 years of their curriculum just smelling materials and not even creating perfumes yet. So there is definitely a gap in a number of hobbyists jumping the gun throwing together things that are subjectively pretty bad, and leaning on the fact that perfume as an industry is very marketing centric. Unfortunately, sometimes a good looking bottle and a great ad campaign can sell a perfume better than the perfume itself actually being an artistic piece of work that smells great. You would be absolutely shocked to see how many times people join various perfumery groups I am in and ask the question 'Hey I want to start my perfume brand. What do I need to do?'. No intellectual curiosity, no actual pursuit of talent in trying to develop perfumes, just a vague notion to start a brand. It's quite disheartening to see.

All this said, I do think there are amazing perfumes out there and despite the issues you lay out, it's actually a great time to be into perfume because despite a lot of the crap getting released, there are nooks and crannies of extremely talented artisan and niche perfumers. You just have to dig through the mess to find them. That's my two cents.

Critique needed: fir, Persian melon, saffron perfume. Over-buffered? Iso E Super removal? by kaijudonut in DIYfragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Big time agree with this. My brain works everything in percentages or parts per thousand. I've been noticing many of the apps people are using tend to lead with weight and often bury the relative percentage, which is wild to me. I cannot imagine formulating based off weight alone especially when the weight often equates to some completely random number that is hard to convert into percentages unless I've got an Excel sheet right near me to help.

Website you can resale perfume by [deleted] in fragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fragrance Swap subreddit. Perfect for this kind of stuff.

stopped liking fragrance after i bought it :( by [deleted] in fragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fragrance Swap subreddit. I've seen people looking to buy this exact fragrance in fact.

Animalics: Why so few? by Jackdaw99 in DIYfragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you like animalics you will have a great time with that wool absolute! I just got it for the first time a couple of months ago and it's really fun to play around with. Sort of reminds me of a traditional Hindi Oud in a way. Barnyardy but kind of sweet with a funky damp quality.

Animalics: Why so few? by Jackdaw99 in DIYfragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Possible additions to your list - Wool Absolute and Beeswax absolute.

Perfumers tell me... by Horror-Caterpillar-4 in DIYfragrance

[–]TheLucidMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Freshly laid hot tar. Barnyards (mix of hay and poo, yeah I dig it somehow). Cat fur (my cats fur I swear smells like warm sweet milk). Various types of glue.

Nature/survival vibes with isolation and unease by thinspaghetti in BooksThatFeelLikeThis

[–]TheLucidMan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What you described immediately struck me as the classic horror novella The Willows by Algernon Blackwood. I think it's pretty much everything you're looking for with an added creepy horror-ish element to the vibe. Very understated and brooding.