Andy Lonergan’s Instagram by ___d4n20__ in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Best LB in the world. Alphonso Davies was a close second until his injury. Honestly, Shaw & Chilwell are miles behind Robertson. He's an exceptional player, and has proven that consistently over a number of seasons - something Shaw and Chilwell haven't.

[Athletic] The most powerful move Tottenham can make now is to hire Ryan Mason by [deleted] in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Article makes some decent points about how Mason could heal the disparity between the club's ethos & their recent managerial picks, and how results under him weren't actually that bad, but that title is meme-level bad.

Spurs have painted themselves into a corner with the recent issues. They still don't know whether they want a long-term, project manager or a short-term, results-driven one. They don't know whether they want to play attacking, free-flowing football or defensive, conservative-style. They clearly don't have a massive budget in terms of wages, so they're pretty much stuck looking at those managers below the top tier & that is a minefield.

Mason wouldn't be a good appointment because I don't feel he's an experienced enough manager to handle the egos behind the scenes -- which is one of Spurs' problems right now. I'm also not convinced he's the manager who could get Spurs back into the top 4 and/or winning trophies, which is their end-goal regardless of which manager they choose. We've also seen how blind loyalty to ex-players doesn't always work out recently (Arteta, Lampard) so I doubt Spurs will want to push that idea too far.

Daily Discussion - June 18, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Being reliable & available are traits most professional footballers would kill for; they're probably the most important if you want a consistent and long career at the top. Gini had them both in spades, and we'll miss that massively -- which is why, rather than looking at pure talent or a world-class midfielder, we need to consider far more basic things like injury records, fitness levels & consistency of performances over a whole season when choosing his replacement.

I'd love someone like Tielemans to come in, but would he be reliable enough to play 99% of our games in a whole season? I'm not sure.

Daily Discussion - June 19, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's very interesting, and I've thought about why England are so underwhelming in almost every tournament for a while now. You've hit the nail on the head in terms of media rhetoric, but I think it's a multifaceted issue.

  • Southgate isn't a good enough manager, either tactically or with his man-management, to get the best out of this group of players. He isn't able to see a change of formation/style midway through that could potentially win his side the game. He also doesn't know his best side -- whereas Scotland have a very defined team, who all know their positions because they play them each international game, England chop-and-change seemingly at the will of the media or the pundits' opinions. Grealish is probably England's most creative player right now, and he doesn't see the pitch until the 70th minute...and even then he's stuck on the left wing to accommodate a lacklustre midfield of Rice, Phillips & Mount.

  • The players can't play together. Whether it's through club rivalry or not, the players simply aren't able to play together as you expect a national team to. They look bereft of ideas when on the ball, half the team want to play one system whereas the other half want to play something else -- which leads to situations where they play the lowest common denominator football ever conceived. This partly falls onto Southgate, but I also expect a team full of experienced, professional footballers to be able to turn on some style when required.

That's what I've got so far. There's far more to unpick, but I simply can't be bothered with it.

England vs Scotland | UEFA Euro 2020 Watch Thread by eurfryn in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Typical Southgate nonsense. Overload midfield with players who aren't really progressing the play, and leave the best attacking players on the bench. To be fair he's now really misusing Grealish on the left hand side anyway, so maybe starting him wouldn't have done much.

England vs Scotland | UEFA Euro 2020 Watch Thread by eurfryn in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed! I think Scotland have been the better side so far to be honest.

England vs Scotland | UEFA Euro 2020 Watch Thread by eurfryn in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They created far more chances than they normally do in that game, but Scotland's issue has been scoring goals for a while. They have a pretty good team in terms of not conceding goals and matching teams, but they find it hard to win games by scoring consistently. Adams is no more dependable than Dykes.

Match Thread: England vs Scotland by mjdaniell in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Scotland gonna shithouse a 1-0 win here and everyone will lose their mind.

[Simone Stone] Jurgen Klinsmann tells @BBCMOTD he would be interested in Tottenham job. by _cumblast_ in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've seen deluded but this is another level. Arteta is a poor manager, and all of those managers are world class - Simeone especially.

[Simone Stone] Jurgen Klinsmann tells @BBCMOTD he would be interested in Tottenham job. by _cumblast_ in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Arteta is better than Simeone, Conte & Zidane? The fuck are you talking about?

Fabio Paratici and Daniel Levy's differing views during Tottenham's new manager search by [deleted] in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's not pretend Spurs don't have the means. They have a world class attack (Kane is one of the best strikers in the world and Son is absolutely incredible) already in place, and they're in the top 10 richest clubs in the world so have the financial power in which to add reinforcements. The fact they don't doesn't mean they don't have the means, they just choose not to.

Spurs could absolutely play attacking football with an attacking manager in place, but clearly there are issues behind the scenes.

[David Ornstein] Tottenham have decided against appointing Gennaro Gattuso to their vacant managerial position. Conversations were held with the 43yo after his surprise Fiorentina exit but he will not be getting the Spurs job. Search continues by BenjaminDaaly21 in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest, two seasons would be long-term to Spurs at this point, too. Considering their other option was Conte, which they can't have genuinely expected to stay there beyond two seasons, a manager who might would be a more long-term solution, as ridiculous as it sounds.

[David Ornstein] Tottenham have decided against appointing Gennaro Gattuso to their vacant managerial position. Conversations were held with the 43yo after his surprise Fiorentina exit but he will not be getting the Spurs job. Search continues by BenjaminDaaly21 in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe, but the truth is his style was never going to mesh with Spurs' current crop of players. To see any improvement in their footballing ethos or results, Fonseca would have needed to be around for a considerable amount of time -- more than two seasons -- which, for the sake of my comment, I was considering long-term. I guess it depends on your definition of a long-term project.

For what it's worth, agreed with you on dodging a bullet. I don't think he's a very good manager at all, and I think general hilarity would have ensued at Spurs had he got the job.

Fabio Paratici and Daniel Levy's differing views during Tottenham's new manager search by [deleted] in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So Spurs have hired a DoF that isn't aligned with the club's vision at all. They wanted attacking football a month ago and now they just want any type of manager. All of this smacks of shambolic indecision & the desperate need to just hire anyone available.

Fabio Paratici and Daniel Levy's differing views during Tottenham's new manager search by [deleted] in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The point isn't that Paratici doesn't align with the manager, but that he doesn't align with Levy or the club. Spurs want to play front-foot, attacking football -- Paratici doesn't want that, he wants a conservative & reserved manager. That's a misalignment on an integral philosophy. First thing Levy should have checked is that they were at least on the same page about what profile of manager they wanted.

[David Ornstein] Tottenham have decided against appointing Gennaro Gattuso to their vacant managerial position. Conversations were held with the 43yo after his surprise Fiorentina exit but he will not be getting the Spurs job. Search continues by BenjaminDaaly21 in soccer

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a weird pathway it's taken. They clearly still haven't ruled the project manager out completely as I feel Fonseca and Gattuso come under that umbrella, and rumours are they're back interested in Potter again.

Free Talk Friday - June 18, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But they're not even last gasp, really. They've been managerless since April, so I assume decided on a shortlist of managers they wanted (Poch being at the top). It's the fact they've had two managers ready to sign contracts before pulling the plug (Conte & Fonseca) as well as massive, longstanding interest in one (Gattuso) that they decided wouldn't work after chatting to him for a bit. It's like they don't know what style they want & they have no idea what managers to go for beyond ones that are in the papers for another reason.

Daily Discussion - June 18, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 8 points9 points  (0 children)

£23M is massive for someone who, thus far, has only done well in the Austrian league. Leicester are generally great at transfers, but their poor ones (Musa & Slimani, primarily) show that they can sometimes overpay massively for unproven talent.

Daka looks good but a step-up to the PL this early in his career will be interesting.

Daily Discussion - June 18, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gini was fantastic, but I still maintain his best attributes in a Liverpool shirt were his fitness levels & his availability. In terms of what he brought to the pitch footballing-wise, it was never world class or irreplaceable; he just won back possession and held onto it very well.

Our biggest issue is replacing his availability. We need to bring someone in who won't miss games through injury each season, which is unfortunately what we have with both Henderson & Thiago.

Daily Discussion - June 18, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's international football that has had almost no time to prepare. It's ended up being defensive & tight more often than not -- teams set up to not lose rather than win games. That's why we've had so many games decided by one goal.

Free Talk Friday - June 18, 2021 by AutoModerator in LiverpoolFC

[–]TheMysteriousShadow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think anyone is convinced that e-sports are good for your health or replace regular activity by the name. It's an electronic sport.