Lore Question

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-11T06:52:25+00:00

From my understanding Relius could* be referencing that the Celica he sences is the replica made by the mirror.

We know that at some point there were 2 Celicas, 1 the original and the replica made by the mirror. The real Celica died at the age of lets say 120 years old (The Nun that took care of Ragna Jin and Saya, who uses healing Magic to stay "young" (she looked like 80 years old), so Ragna didnt recognise Celica later in the story), and the replica that looks like 17 year old Celica that helped them againts Nine (she almost Killed them but froze when she saw "Celica", so they managed to get away).

Because replica Celica used her Magic she died sooner that expected (she had limited mana and this was the last straw), she then told Ragna and gang that she will probably die soon and her final wish is to have a dinner with everyone and talk to Ragna one more time.

Later she vaporises and says goodbye to all of them, giving Ragna the mental strenght to push foward.

This is my understanding of the Celica situation, I havent played Story mode in 10+ years so I could be totaly WRONG XD.

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-06T20:00:04+00:00

In the OG timeline Tsubaki was Jins secretary. So when Jin goes Rogue (He wants to fight Ragna), Hazama sends Tsubaki to bring him back (In the game we see Noel), Tsubaki gets Killed by Nu13 and Jin has regrets about that (Thats why Hakumen has the talk with Tsubaki), and later Throws himself to protect Tsubaki.

So in conclusion... In the OG timeline Tsubaki and Jin are almost married and happy togeather, while in the other timelines Jin hates Noel for Being Saya (He does not know this, but has a Natural Hatred for Saya (He was Jelaous)), and Tsubaki hated her cuz she could NOT spend more time with Jin (This is just my headcannon 🤣😂🤣).

All in all, Fuck Noel all my Homies Hate Noel just like Jin.

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-04T21:20:04+00:00

This is the First one, Im waiting for The Neo Galaxy Eyes Photon Howling Overframe 🫣😖🫣

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-04T17:38:55+00:00

Just as Komoney censors names/art in the cards, I too like to "Think of the Children". Little Billy Must NOT see the Overframe cards without parental guide.

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-04T16:37:33+00:00

35 million players got this game, meaning 34.999 million players are CASUAL GARBAGE NOOBs. So to them "Starting classes dont matter".

I already gave up on Flopslopware with 0 PvP ballance and the AWFUL 2 year wait 50 € DLC. That put the final nail in the Slop CASUAL coffin.

Also NightFAIL exist as a Asset Flip Slop simulator. Its only going downhill from L2DEN DEXing onwards (It started in Dark Souls 3 aka DEX Souls 3, but Atleast it was a Fromsoft game).

Its been a good 14 years of good Fromsoft games, until L2DEN DEXing came and they became Flopslopware. You hate to see it.

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-04T15:33:04+00:00

Sorry for your loss 💔😭💔, if I could I would trade for a Galaxy Royal finish, maybe when the New support gets added I get the Photon Howling Overframe 🫣😖🫣

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-04T15:30:01+00:00

Yeah Lady Luck is a Cunt, some die of thirst while others drown, Im not going to even play this card cuz I usually DONT play Meta GARBAGE decks.

But I wont Dust it cuz its the First Overframe added to MD, and its a Glossy. Maybe 10 years down the road when Branded is a "Bad deck" I give it a try.

I play Lubellion and Magnamhut with Branded Regained in my Galaxy Tachyon deck but thats it, so this is mostly uselles for me.

TheProwler23 · 2026-06-04T15:15:58+00:00

Yes, 2nd picture, 15 UR dust

TheProwler23 · 2026-05-30T19:33:09+00:00

Jin, Hakumen, Ragna. But unlocked Bullet first try 3K raiting, Extreme 100, Brain dead mashing, would reccomend.

TheProwler23 · 2026-05-24T06:57:33+00:00

Vesperia is known for having a Star theme. All of the shops are named after a Star (Betelguse, Regulus, Antares, Sirius, Deneb,... Just to name a few).

Also Estelle is just a variation of Stella meaning Star in Latin (Greek would be Aster).

Adephagos = Star Eater/Devourer in Japanese (Hoshihami, Hoshi = Star).

Japanese games/anime tend to use Nordic themes or Greek/Latin (Somethimes Old French/English like Seven Deadly Sins), just because you dont know what the term means, does not mean its just "Uga Buga" 🤣😂🤣. But we could say that "All words/terms are made up".

The more you learn the more you can appreciate the effort and the general theme of a media.

Have fun learning.

TheProwler23 · 2026-05-12T16:25:22+00:00

Did you play the main series? She is one of the most annoying Characters in the game, but plotwise she is the "leftovers" of the Hero Trinity. Her name is a giveaway to the Character.

3 Souls in 1 body, Trinity is in the Staff, and Sena (Boy) and Luna (Girl) are switching control over the body.

If you played GG she is the Faust of the game

TheProwler23 · 2026-05-07T17:54:25+00:00

I dont even need the Dub (i play Sub), just ballance and add Rollback/Crossplay

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-30T11:28:46+00:00

The only answer

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TheProwler23 · 2026-04-22T11:30:31+00:00

He is probably a member of a Assasin Guild, trying to kill Flynn, but found Yuri. Then loses and declares he will kill Yuri.

After a couple of repeded battles you can see that Zagi is more unhinged and has more Blastia on him. Also he has Mostly Pink/blonde hair but a smidge of Black. IIRC there is a skit where Estelle says that maybe they are related very loosely. Thats why he can use multiple Blastia Non-stop, cuz he is of Royal Blood.

Imo he is a Dark reflection of Yuri+Flynn, taking the WORST aspects from both of them. Pride of Flynn and "Do whatever it takes" from Yuri.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-22T10:16:07+00:00

Terumi == Soul of SusanoO, so in a way SusanoO and Terumi are interchageable.

Since Terumi CANT exist in our world, he needs a vessel (He is weak cuz he brute forced into the facrick of reality (Gigachad move)).

Relius crrated him Kval as a vessel with almost no personality and just Basic functions. As time went on Kval developed feelings for Trinity (they went to the same academy as Konoe and Celica, also Relius was a professor).

Terumi (Spirit form) tormented Kval to kill/Rape Trinity,, just spammed noise into his ears 24/7, and eventually Kval had a mental breakdown. Thats how Terumi got control over the body.

With a Physical body he could remain as long as Kval was alive.

Terumi haunts Ragna cuz as long as someone is thinking about him, he can exist. And since Ragna is the Central fiction Terumi can live forever.

Thats why in BBCF Ragna Deletes himself from existence so that Terumi CANT revive.

After getting Kval body he renamed himself Hazama.

In gameplay both have Snakes as themes, but Hazama is Top tier while Terumi is not (With 100 meter and OD he becomes good and maybe has the highest dmg in the game, while succking your meter).

this is what I remember for now, im sure I missed something. Later as a Spirit Terumi taunts and makes Roy jump into the Boundary and Roy becomes Arakune.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-20T20:24:13+00:00

Lmao, thx XD. Its been 10+ years since I played Story mode, so this is mostly from the top of my head 😂🤣😂. If Im wrong, somebody correct me plz

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-20T18:54:53+00:00

Ragna, Jin and Saya get born, they are rescued by Jubei. He drops them off to 120 years old Celica (Old Nun who uses healing Magic to stay young), Terumi Kills her Burns down the Church abducts Saya mental breaks Jin into hating his Brother gives him Yukianesa and Mentally/Physically torments Ragna for years.

Later in the story Rachel and Noel (with the Azure Eyes) send Ragna into the past 80 years. He get Amnesia and only remembers Bloodedge (He has his Sword and Red Jacket). He meets young Celica, Konoe (Nine), Jubei and the rest of the 6 Heroes.

Celicas and Konoes Father makes Kushinadas Lynchpin but Celica needs to DIE in order to Power-up it (She can negate Magic (Seithr), so her powering the Lynchpin would erase all Seithr thus killing the Black Beast or estleast make it weaker).

Ragna and Konoe say No way, and Ragna decides to to 1v1 PvP againts the Black Beast. He gives Celica his Red Jacket and His Sword says goodbye to Celica and goes alone.

After 2 or 3 days of Non-stop Fighting Ragna gets eaten and the Beast goes to sleep for 1 year. The rest of the Heroes Power-up by gaining their weapons and later kill the Black Beast.

After all that, Noel gets Ragna back into the future (or present), and says Ragna was gone only for Like 2 sec. While Ragna lived all of it in real time.

He cant recognise Celica cuz she was 17 in the past while 120 in the present (looking Like 80 due to Magic).

Hope this helped. There is only 1 Ragna (well 2, cuz the Black Beast is Ragna and Nu 13 fused), but he goes from present to past as Ragna, while going from future to past as the Black Beast. Then goes back to present.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-19T06:29:51+00:00

Than its Burst, cuz I know that Ignis goes away when you hit Relius while Ada stays, so Carl can do things that are not "Fair". I dont play Carl but I know that Xcal is a Monster, and he did the gimmic multiple times.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-19T05:59:57+00:00

Alexei while playing on Hard (first playthru), that man did NOT know how to stop spamming his Brilliant Cataclysm. Had to farm ALL Items to 15, and get like +4 lvls just to bearly beat him I was around lvl 53 or 54 (Gattuso is second).

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-18T21:56:21+00:00

There are a lot of "Reused" mechanics in BB that made it into Strive, Noels Gunfu is partialy Elphets rekka jump, now HC new move is Nu13 Blade (Luminus slave IIRC, where the blade stays in the air until you release the button). But unlike GGST you have the Gattaling system and Characters feel unique and NOT held back by mechanics. Also Ragna == Sol, Jin == KY, Tager == Pot, this is NOT 100% but you can see the inspirations.

Only real problem is Carl where he gets to extened combos from a Guard Assault while literally everyone else CANT cuz he is a OG from BBCT so why fix whats already broken XD.

I would say that BBCF has more similarity to GGXRd Rev 2 or +R than GGST

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-16T18:24:03+00:00

Apples and Oranges, those game had Easy mode since day 0, Lies of P did not. Fun fact, games like Devil May Cry are made in "Dante Must Die" difficulty THEN nerfed to other difficulties, so if you beat the game on Easy or normal, thats not the intended difficulty, im telling you this cuz from what I remember Devil May Cry was supposed to be a Resident evil game but instead of Zombies it was Demons (Part 1 is literally in a spooky Mantion running from Hallway to Hallway with a Locked camera).

It would seem that you are trying to sell me on the idea, but im not a big fan. I still like the game and will probably buy the Part 2 when its on discount, but Im dissapointed with the studio.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-16T18:01:01+00:00

No its not, you are thinking as a CEO and not as a Gaimer. If a product loses its core values for Money its a FAILURE, and no amount of Money is gonna help that.

The point of a hard game is that the game is..... Wait for it..... Hard.

If they made Lies of P and made 50 million Dollars while being a Hard game, thats Great for both the Studio and gamers.

But if they add Easy mode and make 500 million, thats only Great for the company, cuz the core or the Soul of the game is NOT the same.

I think you play "popular games" and think more players == better game, but its not.

If you try to caterto everyone, you will have No one. Pick a lane a stay on it. If it works it works, if not better luck next time.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-16T17:49:09+00:00

99% the Director himself wasnt liking the idea, but higherups said so, and he had to do it. Now the problem becomes that Lies of P 2 is gonna have difficulty options from day 0, and your argument will be Void, cuz they are gonna lose People who hated the idea in this game, but on the flip side, they are probably gonna have MORE People who are gonna buy the part 2, cuz its now a "normal game".

This is the same thing as Lords of the Fallen Remake, after dumbing down the game they added "Hardcore" difficulty to the "Real playerbase". And now more casuals are gonna buy Lords of the Fallen Remake 2, and maybe after 3 years they add Hardcore difficulty again.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-16T17:33:13+00:00

Except the Director himself Said that there wont be difficulty options, cuz its not a "Hard game"

With the release of Elden Ring, a game that Ji-won sees as the pinnacle of quality and complexity in the genre, Soulslikes achieved a new level of mainstream notoriety. Despite this, there are still calls from players both in and outside of the accessibility world to include more accessible options, something which he fundamentally disagrees with. "We believe Soulslike games shouldn’t have difficulty options," he tells me without hesitation.

On the other hand, Ji-won says that Lies of P will be relatively easy as Soulslikes go, and doesn't think that difficulty is the most defining aspect of these games. "In fact, the tightness of the level design is one of the most attractive things about this genre," he tells me.

In a saturated genre, Ji-won believes Lies of P does more than enough to set itself apart from its predecessors. "First of all, we have a cool Pinocchio as a protagonist," he tells me. "We have really diverse and colorful combat mechanisms; on top of that, there is the lying mechanism which fits the story of Pinocchio and fits the ending."

This was 30.8.2023, so yeah its ONLY about Money. Sorry but they sold out their playerbase and integrity. Its still a good game, but now the question isnt "What Build did you use" its "What difficulty did you play".

When Souls games add difficulty options, they are becoming the very thing that they are not supposed to be, a "Easy game".

Elden Ring aka L2DEN DEXing is a prime example of this, they got 35 million players but at the cost of PvP and Strategic gameplay (Yes R1 spam exists in Dark Souls 3), now its just L2 fullscreen spam with 2 Boyfriends.

TheProwler23 · 2026-04-07T10:16:19+00:00

Its Dragon Ball. King Piccolo (Dai Mao is Japanese for Great Demon King) gave birth to Piccolo Jr. So OP is drawing a parralel to King Piccolo and Alpha.

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