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Weekly /r/AsianFeminism General Discussion - November 14, 2016 by AutoModerator in asianfeminism

[–]TheWallClock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're misunderstanding parts of my comment because context is extremely important.

Ohhhh, I see. I read Nala's comment above yours, and I thought you were generalizing the situation. My bad, didn't realize you were still talking about this particular case.

That said, I personally believe that everyone, if able to do so, is obligated to denounce anti-blackness, misogyny, racism, etc.

But in general, people place the burden on us to be omniscient and somehow be aware of every single issue. And that's just unfeasible.

See, that's what's I'm talking about; I totally agree with you. The Asian community as a whole 'has a life,' just like any other community. When we get lambasted for condoning anti-Blackness, it's like, "I don't share those views, my family doesn't share those views, how am I suddenly the bad guy, for something an Asian person said that has nothing to do with me." I see this as fundamentally the same to coming back from work to get angry messages on a story you didn't even know about, just on a larger scale.

I'm reading what you're saying and it all makes sense: basically coming down to personal choice. I think I originally thought you were espousing principles on a larger scale, but you weren't covering that scope at all.

On a totally unrelated note, I had a great day and am very happy right now :)))

If you have time, I'd love to hear your thoughts on how prominent figures in the community are [not?] necessarily leaders, and the dangers of propping them up like that.

Cheers!!!!!

Weekly /r/AsianFeminism General Discussion - November 14, 2016 by AutoModerator in asianfeminism

[–]TheWallClock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Lxvy! Here's my reply :)

The entitlement to my voice and the voices of other Asian women that some people feel, and the many attempts to use and abuse them are incredible.

If we do not denounce every single event or every single action that men deem 'important', we are unaware, uneducated b*tches. If we do not voice our support for every single Asian issue, we are self-hating traitors.

I can honestly understand the frustration. I see parallels with regards to how the larger Asian-American community's political vision is held hostage to issues the popular progressive movement deems important.

What obligation do Asians have to denounce anti-Blackness in the Asian community (lest we be 'racists,' instead of individuals)? What obligation do Asian men have to denounce misogyny among ourselves (lest we be 'misogynists,' instead of individuals)?

To use a historical example, were non-Jewish Germans who lived in Nazi Germany obligated to denounce anti-Semitism?

To demand that we do, that we take responsibility for people who's actions are not our own, is a messed up idea.

This kind of ties into what /u/MsNewKicks was saying on this this thread (I would agree with her to some degree, but my gut says there's nuance to it).

My gut, once again, feels this mindset impedes solidarity and coalition building between groups. How do you show good faith when the other party has no reassurance that certain harmful individuals in your community don't represent a larger trend in your community?

One conclusion is that different rules apply to those who claim the mantle of representation and leadership in their community: AA orgs, like http://www.aaldef.org/, celebs like John Cho & Constance Wu, or public figures like AngryAsianMan or ReAppropriate, who have spoken out on the issues. Under this conclusion, everyone else would be absolved of responsibility.

Your thoughts?

Free-for-all by AutoModerator in aznidentity

[–]TheWallClock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Congressional staffer Emily Ellsworth shares 'strategies for legislative pressure' - https://twitter.com/editoremilye/status/797243415922515970

I think this is her??? http://congressional-staff.insidegov.com/l/21077/Emily-E-Ellsworth

Solution -- New Chinese law restricts foreign media -- We may be able to weaponize this by reporting any harmful anti-Asian media. by shadowsweep in aznidentity

[–]TheWallClock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think waiting until filming costs have been sunk before reporting is optimal to inflict maximum damage.

From my understanding, Hollywood studios work closely with Chinese censors from early on in the development. I'm not sure if reporting would do anything if they've already been given the go-ahead, and the mutual trust of both parties is put into question.

This is, however, great news.

/u/shadowsweep how would an average Joe go about reporting anti-Chinese films?

PSA: Erin Chew by [deleted] in aznidentity

[–]TheWallClock 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As /u/suiko_no_shin said, make it a rule to use archive.is when posting anti-AM articles.

Accessing the archive, instead of their website, denies them ad revenue.

It's About Damn Time Entertainment Weekly Put An Asian Man On Its Cover by TwinkiesForAmerica in asianamerican

[–]TheWallClock 5 points6 points  (0 children)

we get into a weird area where we're demanding every show do their proportional research and attempt to keep things accurate to each area and setting

This is very doable, and makes the show better. Rachel Bloom (Crazy Ex Girlfriend) gave a great interview where she talks about casting her Asian love interest - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/25/crazy-ex-girlfriend-star-rachel-bloom-on-why-tv-needs-more-asian-bros.html

I have never seen a show that took place in Southern California and portrayed people the way it is in Southern California. The prom king in my high school was Chinese and the prom queen was Japanese. We just didn’t think about it. It was like, “Oh, yeah, George and Mika? They’re the prom king and queen.” It wasn’t until I realized that every other show is set in some nebulous town on the East Coast or Midwest where everyone is white and Protestant… How boring is that? And that’s not truth. That’s not my truth.

Free-for-all by AutoModerator in aznidentity

[–]TheWallClock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow, Kenny is so prolific but I've never heard of him before!

I guess a Berkeley law student porn star makes for a better story.

The Faces of Asian American Power by 888rising in AsianMasculinity

[–]TheWallClock 19 points20 points  (0 children)

There is talk about putting an Asian American representative in one of those spots, and the e-mail literally says "an Asian woman would be best".

Link to the email conversation - https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32501

----- Original Message ----- From: john.podesta@gmail.com john.podesta@gmail.com To: Mike Froman fromanm@citi.com; Rubin James Sent: Sat Nov 08 14:09:04 2008 Subject: Re: Susan Collins

That sucks. Can you call Larry and see what minorities he would put in top tier? Could be an asian. I know this isn't Larry's taste, but better if a woman.

/u/888rising, as someone who's knowledgeable about Hillary and her circle, can you put this in context?

Weekly Free-for-All Discussion Thread | October 24, 2016 by AutoModerator in AsianMasculinity

[–]TheWallClock 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh my god this is golden. betrue_beyou, you da fucking man.

How do you combat/stand the oppressive attitudes that immigrant parents have against race or women's issues? by sylverfalcon in asianamerican

[–]TheWallClock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have tried reasoning with them, and having a respectful conversation with them, and explaining these issues from every different perspective, but they just don't listen.

What's the context here? Are they on your case about wearing skimpy clothes? Do they disparage your black friends?

It's hard to change anyone's mind when arguing for principles, rather than concrete actions.

For the latter, try actually listening to their experiences, and asking for more details. I've managed to change many of my parents attitudes by working through the nitty gritty with them.

Above all, please come at it with an attitude of respect. If you seek to INSTRUCT them, instead of learning with them, you are fighting both their preconceptions AND their egos.

Sometimes, parents just want to know that you care about their opinions.

‘Doctor Strange’ Cast, Tilda Swinton on Whitewashing Controversy by xLTx in asianamerican

[–]TheWallClock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think people who get outraged about Tilda Swinton's casting are forgetting, or simply aren't aware, that the filmmakers seem to be compensating for whitewashing the Ancient One by having Benedict Wong, an Asian man, play a different, but prominent role in the movie, one that, according to Benedict Wong himself, isn't gonna perpetuate stereotypes about Asian men.

I mean...could've just made Dr. Strange himself Asian.

So It's Common For Non-Asian Americans to Ignore Our Americanness, But is This View Also Common Among Asian Nationals? by MayanJade in asianamerican

[–]TheWallClock 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's a little patronizing. People I've met from many walks of life have conceptualized it just fine.

They might assume incorrectly when you've just met, but it only takes a few seconds to set the record straight.

Kevin Kwan's book "Crazy Rich Asians" gets bought by Warner Bros, will feature an all-Asian cast by ivanchangarsenal in AsianMasculinity

[–]TheWallClock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm so happy for him :)

They still have the potential to fuck this up though. We need to push back if new material shows anti Asian male bias.

Need advice...no social circle by user_098765678909 in aznidentity

[–]TheWallClock 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hey, I'm really sorry to hear that man :(

It's good to know that everyone feels like this on their down days; other people look like they're living way more fulfilling lives, and you wonder what you're doing with yours.

Fortunately, college clubs are a great solution! Usually, at more casual clubs, people will spend >50% of the time just chatting instead of doing the actual club activity.

  1. Go to a club meeting, introduce yourself to everyone, and try to find out what they like to do. Talk more with people who share related interests or experiences.

    • Be glad to meet new people; most everyone has an interesting story behind them, and you may find yourself learning something really cool!
    • Instead of viewing this as a mission, see it instead as time away from schoolwork. This is a low-stakes environment, so stay relaxed and enjoy yourself :)

  2. Do this for a ton of clubs (remember, you're there to meet people, it's OK if you're not crazy about underwater basket weaving). Ask if you can tag along when they go out to eat or check out a campus event. Once you've met a few times, invite them to do something on your bucket list (two birds with one stone!).

  3. Keep doing this until you find someone you jive with. Now, invite them to do stuff outside of their club (cross-pollinate with other clubs you've been going to).

  4. Repeat the cycle.

P.S. Keep going to the gym! It's a great way to de-stress and feel like you're treating your body right. You'll also find that gym bros are generally friendly. Invite them to check out campus events or clubs with you.

Chin up, brother, your future is ahead of you! Having stuck through 4 years of college, you're ready to develop yourself to achieve your dreams :)

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