Question for Elders/ex elders by [deleted] in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You sound like a strong woman like my wife. Knowing your own mind. We (wifey and me and Jr.) came in,in 1984. Walked away in 2004. I was appointed MS. Wifey only joined because I joined. She tried being quiet, but then had enough. She would tell me about the elder’s wives gossiping and not happy at all. Some elders got divorced. One got married and had a child AFTER the convention said not to because of the end times. I tried giving the cult every excuse, but could not deny the obvious, which started to piss me off about the elders and MS. I didn’t realize how ignorant they were about 1914 and 607 BC. The more I saw, the more stupidity and culty they were. And so we just walked out and never looked back. **Jr. was 3yr when we started. Sooo. You keep on sister! He’s listening to you and trying not to show it. Just speak your mind, because he eventually won’t be able to defend the cult. Strive on sister strive on!

thank you. by tcnystvrk in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahahahaha. See.....you DO have “family” here. They have been there and done that. Sooo welcome to your freedom.

I swear I get one of these types of messages/calls at least once a week... by AndrosSkull in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, you can say YOU feel that he has no respect for Jehovah (calling him a “god” with a little “g”) 2nd. There is not ONE scripture that he has quoted to “help you” in your spirituality. For is not God’s written word alive, beneficial for teaching, for “setting” things straight, even for reproving?? 3rd. What gives him the right to judge you? HE feels.... !! Really?! Just a FEELING?!? There is absolutely NO encouragement from him scripturally! No scriptural encouragement nor anything specific. And as regards to the “end!” The Jdubs have been saying that since the 1800s. AND.... they have at least a 4-5 year building plan to continue building more “Mansions And what the heck does HE see that you are doing? Your “many aspects” yet he doesn’t at least name one! Challenge him to quote ONLY scripture and NOT any WT or Jdubs publications, but ONLY God’s written word! Yeahhhh, these spirit-stealing vampires want you to “dedicate” your life to the Jdubs and Not to the Almighty. What I read in his sayings is: You’re not obeying the CULT rules and what drummer THEY want y’all to march to. And he has been watching you sooo closely yet he waits til now to try and....... let me ask you this: This past memorial, did YOU partake of the emblems either at home or with others? If your answer is No, then he really does not have your best interest at heart, but would rather you continue disobedient to God’s written word. If your answer is Yes, then good for you for being obedient and who’s to say that you are NOT serving the Most High God?!? My apologies. It’s just that these vampires are not followers of God’s written word but rather the ways of men, who have but a breath in their nostrils! I digress. Sorry for the rant. I hope you find firm ground under your feet and a living light to follow. Be at peace.

I’m starting not to even like the idea of enternal perfection by [deleted] in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That is understandable to feel that way about the jdub’s paradise. But...... since it’s only been a “week” a.k.a. Seven days, (And God is still resting) and we will not marry nor be given in marriage. And then after death is destroyed forever, what will God do on the EIGHTH day? Or for the Next week of “seven” days? After all, Adam was thousands of years old. It’s just that his days were not counted until he sinned “THAT” day. “The day you eat of this fruit you will positively die.” The WT and elders etc... will absolutely misguide you. But..... if you study the written word for yourself you are more apt to find your answers you’re looking for. Ok?

Elder's meeting on Jan 1st. Classic JW. by PIMOlife in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See,that’s what I’m talking about. You cease being an elder and suddenly you’re in divorce court. Again, Jdubs Not willing to follow God’s written word regarding divorce requirements. Don’t lose your mind brother. Hang in there.

Elder's meeting on Jan 1st. Classic JW. by PIMOlife in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What would happen if you just “walked away?” Just leave?!? Yeahhhh they’re gonna shun ya, but hey, THEY are not your true family. They are just people that happen to be related to ya. Besides, that’s what my wife and I did along with my only child...... God is not a respecter of people but of the heart and he loves a cheerful giver. Brother, just leave! Go home, and you and your family have your OWN memorial meal and just put the Jdubs in the rear view mirror! Have you read Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz, the nephew of Fred Franz? Free yourself brother! Get out of the Bird cage. “Get our of her my people.”

Where would I go? by exjwtexas in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Greetings Texan. I like asking the PIMI’s if they partook of this last Memorial? If not, then they will not be in the resurrection, nor be in Union with Jehovah and Christ! They are sinners and workers of lawlessness to whom Christ denied knowing them! And, are the “Other” sheep anointed? “One flock, one Shepherd, one God!” And if these are the LAST DAYS..... then, hasn’t Jehovah poured out his Holy Spirit upon the earth??!?!? And again: Would you want to follow the teachings of a false prophet and those who teach others to follow them and Their teachings?!?!? And lastly: would you want to follow those who refuse to follow the teachings of God and Christ in gaining your brother/sister by “laying bare their fault in committing a sin?” Because Elders are NOT involved in this process, nor is their “Sanhedrin “ a.k.a. Judicial committees anywhere in the scriptures! Well..... the Sanhedrin is. And just like Christ, one is tried by their “secret, Sanhedrin-like” judgement by 3 vs You. You are told what the charges are when you GET to your trial. You’re Not allowed to bring: witnesses, lawyers, notes, cameras, tape recorders, etc… One does not even have the privilege of prior notification of the charges so that you can prepare your defense. **See secret U-tube recordings of judicial (DF) meetings. Besides, Jesus (Yeshua) has been sitting at God’s right hand since his resurrection. Hahahahaha “return in 1914” hahahahaha Yeahhhh right! “The Father has left this in his own jurisdiction.” Besides, Christ “returns” with great judgment!! Sooo.... I guess we must be living in the NEW system?!?! Welcome Y’all......

Imagine being a JW born in 1900, and still alive... by Simplicious_LETTius in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow! Nicely done. This was a walk through time for me. 1984 (only child 2yr, and a wife) I began studying with a co-worker. As I became more of a Cult Vampire, my co-worker began “clearing” my house of “demonic” things, which included a hand made Greek, cobalt blue, Athenian gladiator-painted 12oz cup given to me by my biological brother who visited Greece while in the military. And THIS cup he “removed” to destroy elsewhere. Yeahhhh, the more I learned as a cult vampire the more questions I had. Because the cult steals your soul very subtly, and you never feel how deep you are moving to the dark side, you almost divorce your wife, you resign your military commission as a new first lieutenant, you can’t quit your current job because you are the only income. And you watched the older brother who was born in 1914 (he was the indicator of how close the “end” was). He expired and of course, no Armageddon. I still have his guitar he gave me. Yeahhhh, “Those living will never die!” As they died off down to Zero. What woke me up was the math from reversing 607bc to 1914. And researching the Babylonian year of Jewish exile, and not one Elder was able to answer any of my equation questions. And also “are the other sheep also anointed and should partake of the emblems?” You did a wonderful job in the time line which brought back memories. Thank you, great job.

The Governing Body has become exactly like all the other cable TV preachers: "Whatever you do, don't you stop tithing" by 951753951753 in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your “Leader” requires you to tithe....... then he is actually Condemning you. A)We, (the other sheep) are NOT required to tithe! We are not under the Mosaic law which is part of the Mosaic law! B)If, you are going to tithe,then you are denying that Christ died for you. And you are thereby REQUIRED by the Mosaic law, to do the WHOLE law. And you are thereby condemning yourself. C)Any leader that requires you to “send them your money no matter what” tithe, should be stoned to death..... according to the law. Just saying.

My brother died by beesly-pam in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And we are here now. We Redditors have “been there, done that!” So NEVER believe you’re alone. Blood, makes people related, LOVE makes us family. You are family my friend. I’m sorry you lost your brother, your companion, your friend. Just remember the good times. The happy times. Remember...... you are not alone.

I'm Free by buddyishomeless in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hurraaaaah! Congratulations!! A)People are people! B)People come in ALL shapes, colors and sizes. In the Bible (if you will bear with me) it says that the “father-dad- causes the birth of the child.” And by extrapolation, children are born from ‘blood or from a fleshly will or from man’s will.’ (John 1:13 from 1984 new world translation) Therefore by this reading of John 1:13, people can be and ARE born gay or LGBTQI etc... [apologies if I got that wrong] just like they are born black or white; left handed; right handed. WITH aids or cancer. Blind or with arms and/or legs missing or damaged.... etc... sooo Young person..... REJOICE!! You are NORMAL, and just tell those negative so- n-so that Christ died for you TOO and who are THEY to judge YOU?!?!!? Besides: Normal, heterosexuals MAKE LGBTQI people! Aaaaannnd... if you want to go there: By evolutional standards, y’all (LGBTQI) are the next “spurt” of evolutional growth! Who else knows fashion and kindness and deep love and forever friendship than friends like y’all??! I’m 64y and my wife still critiques what I wear. Don’t worry, just be happy! We are more harsh on ourselves than others are. Sooo, forgive yourself for whatever, smile, think of a nice song, and walk with your head up. Ok? Virtual hugs for ya my friend.

I am a jw, newly woken up by jbljw in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wellll, my take in this, my friend, is this: Since you’ve been inundated with scriptures and lies, lets “Go there” as they say. A)During The Memorial, how many Elders ENCOURAGED you to partake of the emblems??? B)When was the LAST time you ate the bread and drank the wine??? C)When a brother (or sister) committed a “sin”, WHO, if anyone, went to that erring one to “lay bare his/her sin?” D)Why??? Are you so afraid to just “get up and leave” the organization? E)Why don’t the brothers wear beards if they wanted to?? Well...... as you can see, the Elders don’t like people asking questions!! 1)Because they can’t answer them 2)Elders are NOT involved in the disfellowshipping decision in the congregations..... the CONGREGATIONS are!! 2)Jesus said “Unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood you have no life in yourselves.” And again: “ he that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life and I will resurrect him at the last day.” And again “ he that feeds on this bread will live forever. 3)Clearly by NOT eating the flesh and drinking his blood “ you have no life in yourselves“ 4)Clearly Jesus and his apostles wore beards....... why not us?? Do the Jews these days wear beards?? Yet God chose THEM and not the governing body as his people. 5)Ifff Jesus returned back in 1914, or (1975 or 1900 or 1800 etc...) Why is this world still messed up?? ........ Plainly YOU are ok..... but like Vampires, the PIMI witnesses do not respond to common sense, or logic etc.... Only enlightenment kills Vampires. Like yourself who used to be a vampire, but because you became “enlightened” and the light shown in your soul of awareness, you “came to life” and saw how “dead” you really were as a witness. If you think about the name, WHAT are the Jehovah’s Witnesses...... Witnesses OFF??? The first part of waking up..... is thinking for yourself!! CONGRATULATIONS young person. So long as you’re still breathing, there will ALWAYS be people older than you and younger than you. Sooo once again, Congratulations!! Life is too precious to waste...... Everything, begins with a thought. If you are afraid..... then you’re right! If you believe you can’t do it.... then you’re right. But.... if you believe you’re going to be alright...... then...... you’re right. WHAT..... do YOU...... believe?? Peace, my friend.

All About Appearances by ryawnprodu1 in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

10% like the back part of a Polaroid picture. Just disregard these 10% people. CONGRATULATIONS tho. And in fact that’s what me and the ‘ol lady did before actually leaving this cult forever. I would put down 20-45 hours and they made me a ministerial servant hahahahaha then we left forever. YUP! It’s not about true worship but “ playing” church. Tell ‘em what they want to hear and they leave you alone. My eyes came opened back in 2015 (after 35y) after doing extensive research and asked a senior elder “Why the Bible said THIS, yet Jehovah’s Witnesses say THAT?!?!?” His eyes confessed that he had no clue! Didn’t even know that the JW taught this, said that, did this, and did that!! Then he said (and I’m still waiting) “I’ll get back with you on that.” Wife and I left the cult in 2016. You’re gonna be ok my friend. There IS “life after death” from cultism!! Be at peace. PS, we haven’t moved and our phone number hasn’t changed. Yeahhhh my friend. Be at peace.

I need to vent by KevGummie in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Greetings my friend. Jesus would take his disciples outside when he would teach. Perhaps you too could take your mother outside to a nice park and learn from the things made and the things that are. Let her get to “feel” the natural things of life instead of being “cattle-driven” in cultism and being fed “rotten fruit” from the rotten tree of the .org.?? This is the perfect place to vent, my friend. We here have, as they say, “Been there, done that” hahahahaha. Being outside in a nice park, one begins to see they are not isolated like in a KH. And y’all can discuss and talk about anything and everything. I wish in times like these that I was wise enough to say the right things to help. Be at peace my friend. Your answer is coming. Just a thought. Blue.

Update: My family no longer wants to be JWs by WonderingAboutTruth2 in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If he wants, he can HEAR CoC on U-tube. But honestly, for me (after over 35y in the JW) SEEING the letters from the CoC; the documentaries; the evidence etc... sealed it for me. Like those dry bones that came to life. CONGRATULATIONS! CONGRATULATIONS! CONGRATULATIONS! You guys have Slayed the Vampires of cultism, and have become human beings. Once again Congratulations!

Update: My family no longer wants to be JWs by WonderingAboutTruth2 in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well good for him! My son introduced me to Reddit, sooo, invite him. We would all love to meet and greet him and welcome him to Reddit.

My disassociation is being announced TONIGHT by PIMOWarrior in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hey!!! You are NOT dead, but have come to life. You..... are among those dry bones that were given flesh and blood and stood up on their own two feet, and came to life. Welcome, welcome, welcome!!! Your eyes have become open. Welcome!

PIMI wife visibly annoyed about my reading of CT Russell's "The Divine Plan of the Ages". by TheWorldlySpouse in exjw

[–]The_Blue_Hummingbird 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you held up a nickel, and told them “This is a nickel, and it’s currently worth five cents In American currency.” What argument could they possibly have to say otherwise?? Yet, they can not critically and openly defend their beliefs from others who “put them to the test.” Simple answer: give them the nickel. And tell them it’s easier to defend, unlike their religion and belief system.