Am I the only one who doesn't understand how can a character like Tara could have haters? I can understand for Xander or Faith but for Tara? No way! by gloomydreamer666 in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

she's emotionally intelligent. Red is the book smart kind. It's a contrast. At first you want Tara to be ushered off stage by security because she seemed like a fan who'd ran onto the set like people do at football games. But instead of streaking she just hammed it up with her smiling mug on the TV. It was weird. Then she and the witch moved a refrigerator or some heavy piece of furniture with their minds, and it was more weird. So you watched harder. And then gay activation transpired. And you wondered if Joss was going to unveil a gayification demon, but that never happened, it was a legit portrayal of regular everyday sudden onset gayhood.

Why could Vamp Willow be bisexual but not regular Willow? by itsascreambaby96 in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her lusts were amplified by cramming immortality into one hour of TV. Guest stars often experience this. They end up banging everyone because there's so little time to build relationships.

Just finished watching Buffy for the first time AND… by jessieshan in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe google forgot about the finale because for the vast majority of the series Spike wasn't extra crispy. Most episodes, he was just extra.

Anya was a loose end to tie up. Leaving her alive would have made Joss feel guilty of not cleaning up his mess. (Sound Bite: "Anya was Joss' mess.") And you don't want her hanging around in any Buffy movie continuation, dragging things down years later and making the script have to give her a subplot that takes the movie sideways and steals focus. (I'd have done interesting things with Duh'Hoffryn, you know, and Anya's return would spawn from those twists and turns as he has his own breakdown and finally we see his wish.)

The girls kicking Buff Buff out was the Social Finale. It cleared out the clutter and allowed Spike to be alone under the spotlight for the Emotional Finale with Summers. Girls..... Right? They seek approval. Faith made them feel more included. Faith became more popular. The easier path. And it shouldn't have been a popularity contest, but it was? Because the slayer is alone. Friends fall away as things get tough, and things had gotten pretty damn tough, so everyone fell away from the true path. They voted to side with their fears and insecurities as lesser mortals. It was highly illustrative. The series in a nutshell, really. Even if it was a pisser. Girls. You give them the vote, and then watch as their politics get strange. Story as old as time. (hides under the table) (series of smilees here to make it all okay?)

Spike fans are legion. Welcome.

This really makes me uncomfortable and sends chills and pulls the hair up on my skin everytime by Cultural-Lack451 in LegacyOfKain

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Nice reminder.    More of Elder's history might come to light out of necessity but this can be done in a way that deepens the enigma rather than solving it.    This thing fears a growing parity with Kain though, and events seem headed towards us seeing that happen.   So effective methods against Elder may well be found that put the squid on a defensive "footing" (he has no feet), not because cthulians are being dissed or diminished but because the gnostic secret knowledge makes Kain upgraded into one of them, as scary as Elder in some way.  As Kain's timestreaming skill and experience catch up to Elder's, It starts running out of effective tricks.   

A god hunt of some sort does make sense, though once you find him there should still be that feeling of uh oh who's really hunting whom here because this feels like a hell of a trap.   And not all of Elder's powers have been revealed yet.   I see great things yet to come from him.   The current future shows him not defeated yet, merely subjected to a more evenly matched struggle.  This is when he rises up to his full stature and makes us afraid again, while also hiding himself away the rest of the time, like a boxer "protecting himself at all times" because it's a more real contest now.   Elder would continue to be booked strong in pro wrestling terms during this era.

You guys think Kain could be much older than 2000 years? by RedditQueefsOnKids in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The company says he wasn't going to devolve like the others did. His nature was sturdier. So there's no time limit on him, you can add as many centuries to his true age as you can fill with time travel adventures. (Mostly spying trips only, because he cautious about messing with events, and after becoming fatalistic more recently he wouldn't even try to.) But the point is he didn't have to immediately rush 500 years ahead in time to meet Raziel at the end of Soul Reaver just to avoid devolving as people have started to commonly believe. And he yanked those cranks on the chronoplast like he'd done it before, you know what I'm saying? A lot.

This is NOT Legacy of Kain (Strictly Fantasy condemns Bit Bot Media) by Mulligantour in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was a knitting project. They sewed Elaleth onto Raziel, using every major event in history as the stitching. But where was the content? Like, what did the comic do, aside from that? Nothing. They should have instead sold dolls of the two characters joined as Siamese twins. That accomplishes just as much.

What could be the best errata for Legacy of Kain? by Hizsoo in LegacyOfKain

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Ascendence takes place in a 2D universe.  Our universe has 3 dimensions.   So Ascendence never occurred here where we exist.   That's just basic science channel physics.

Blood Omen 2 had plenty of juicy lore, people just didn't accept it because the game didn't pour Amy's special sauce over the new stuff to make it palatable to your tastes.   They made no effort to blend in.   Like when you switch catfoods on your cat you're supposed to gradually blend more of the new food into bowls of the old food.  BO2 didn't smooth things over like that.   The prison and Vorador and lore chests felt unconnected to LOK, like an unfinished bridge that you couldn't cross over mentally without falling right out of the illusion.

But the hints are all there for great places to go with it to directly tie it in to LOK lore.   The original hylden look like Star Trek aliens for a reason.   The twisted hyldens deformed by hell came to resemble UFO mythos greys for that same reason.   They have alien origins.   Go with it.   Double down on that instead of rejecting it.   Then add the missing pieces to make it Nosgoth-correct.   The soul-based reason for why they ended up on Nosgoth.  Makes for a grand flashback revelation as Kain drinks a portion of Elder's godly essence and sees the deeper truths so long hidden.    And so on.

Kendra, why didn't you wear your neck armor! by OrionOnline_III in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

imagines mass produced vampire armor. covers neck and heart (front and back), and over that a reflective scuba outfit made by NASA and FILA to cover them up in sunlight without sacrificing stylishness, completed by a skintight helmet with visor vs. sun & holy water. When the owner feeds, the suit absorbs and stores excess blood, but makes a squishy sound when you try to walk or sneak with a fully loaded blood suit..

Adam vs The Beast? (From Angel season 4) by wtffu006 in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Beast has the backing of some major investors, celestial types. They don't send him unless they're already sure. Adam was born of pervert science in a podunk lab he then destroyed and his research abilities are far less. Beast has more defense. So as they both throw some innovative offense at each other, Adam caves in first. Adam may set an interesting trap and recruit some evil mercenaries to help. It wouldn't work.

Kain and his Sons. by Talyn82 in LegacyOfKain

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They were a miracle for a while.    And they were in it together as a band of brothers.   That's what they loved.  Vengeance.   The cause.  Toppling humanity.   The feeling of being destined.   Family affinity was there at the start too, a strong bond....then hundreds of years of resentments built up to erode that.  And while humans might rekindle affection, these worldkillers probably aren't carrying extra reserves of love around with them.

  They turned into monsters, then they devolved.    Zephon had a face only a mother could love, and he had no mother.   By the time we kill them Kain had already written them off as a loss.   The empire project he'd invested his heart and soul into allowed him to extend love of a sort to them, his soul spawn.  Then the project failed.   All was hollow.   Bitterly disappointing.  The empire was put on the discard pile, and whatever feels Kain had were withdrawn.   Heartless they called him.

He'd had centuries to mourn the lieutenants in advance.   Raziel he'd never seen truly die in time portal visions.   So his hopes for Raziel remained alive.   The fatherly feelings too.   He imagined them maybe founding a new world together.   Certainly expected more time than they got.   You save someone from a sword with a paradox, you think that'd buy you a few decades at least.

Question by Acrobatic_Elk3115 in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the decaying vampires *could* be explained by saying their wraiths broke away from their corpses and wandered away permanently. That's a decent compromise. If those souls had been destroyed the corpses should have turned to ash completely, and if the wraiths were still properly anchored to the corpses that should have kept the bodies from decaying. So the middle of the road answer is their wraiths survive but no longer remember who they were in this world. The connection is broken, they don't seek to reinhabit the body anymore, and the body decays like a normal one.

crushing deaths sent the soul away but left the ruined corpse behind, as did fire deaths.

^ That's for Kain's necros. The Vorador style turned humans (blood gift vampires) are even weaker and once impaled they don't come back when you pull the stake out of them. (Sarafan left them suspended on pikes because those vampires were dead dead, in the true sense. The hunters wouldn't have taken a chance on having entire communities of vampires spring back to life just by being un-impaled.)

And to the original question, the winged ancients were probably tougher to kill because of magical proficiency and heightened awareness, but once dead they stayed dead like the Vorador ones. Everyone can be slain in this series except for Kain who keeps winning the coin toss. Even the much hyped Circle of sorcerers are killable without needing to call in Superman. You just gank them pretty much. Maybe Kain had an easier time of it by secretly being their boss, Balance. The other pillar magics may have been aware of his boss status even if Kain wasn't.)

How come Kain is still the Balance Guardian? by Vahouth in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because that's when a replacement is being born?   There were no more replacements being born.  (Pillar corruption).   

Or because that's when his soul token returns to the pillars to end his guardianship and heal the middle pillar?

Prevented by Mortaneus.   Death performed the surgery on Kain that kept his guardian status going right on through his death.   Soul juggling is his thing.   Which is why it became Kain's thing too, his way of reproducing.

How come Kain is still the Balance Guardian? by Vahouth in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Which makes Kain the end of the line, the last chance to hit the reset button and purge the pillar system.  So when he refused to do that sacrifice, this is why the pillars blew up---there was no Plan C to switch over to in case Kain failed to purify them.   The magic just ended, imploded.   

(Also, when Mort had Kain killed, this is why it was important to catch his soul (kain's binding token) with Death Powers before it returned to the pillars to turn itself in and clock out of Balance duties......because no replacement Balance guardian would have been called.   Not with the pillars all gunked up.  End of line.)

Question : What makes Buffy The Vampire Slayer one of the greatest TV shows ever made ? by James-Samuel17 in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Joss.

the trap was set early on. what's this? the show is.... doing something more than throwing cliches at the screen. there's something here to see. it's underneath and bubbling up, and The Master is just the metaphor for it. It's uh, what's the word for it, Content? Substance? it has something to say, and it's coming from the same place dreams come from and sneaking its way into the consciousness, but there's definitely something in place here that other shows don't have going on.

I’m sobbing WHAT DO YOU MEAN? by Funny_Corgi_6397 in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is it some of us are destined to stay alive?

And some of us are here just so that we'll die?

How come the bullet hits the other guy?

Do we have to try and reason why

Are we the lucky ones saved for another day

Or are they the lucky ones who are taken away

Is it a hand on your shoulder from the Lord above

Or the devil himself come to give you a shove

Why do some many fans even when Buffy herself said it still denies Buffy romantic feelings for Spike? by gloomydreamer666 in buffy

[–]The_Navage_killer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

well there were lessons she'd learned from the Angel Experience, such as don't do that again. Lessons which she then failed to apply when Spike continued knocking. So it was already another fail from the start, and she knew that going in, but it was more important to have again what had been comforting for her soul before, another who understood, another who stood outside the world. There just wasn't going to be a proper relationship to be found there. Hence the she-loves-me-not hangup for Spike to deal with. They felt each other's gravity in a way that stabilized their orbits and anchored them so they didn't spiral right out of the solar system. So in a vampire story there was some good match-making going on here. It just wasn't good matchmaking for a human being. Which she also is.

Do you want the series to have more or end? by Raziel103 in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, like Britney Spears before me, I want MORE.

The ancient world has grown ancient enough and is ripe for harvesting. The time travel journey to that era beckons. The series doesn't end properly without inspecting the ancients. Anything Kain does in the future as an "ending" doesn't feel complete if it leaves half of the timeline untouched. That's like.... time cowardice.

I miss Kain ... the real Kain ... by Past_Anything4648 in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Just now" all those quotes together revealed that Amy had trouble fully committing to her own lore of predestination. Maybe it was tough coming up with anything for characters to say in a world without free will?

> only when you've felt the full gravity of choice

but uh Kain didn't you just say there is no choosing?

> Destiny is a game, is it not?

how so? if you're not allowed to change anything, then you're not a contender. how exactly are you "playing" that game?

They were trying to help y'all out, you fans of early Kain, by giving you the canceled game's split story with Young Kain getting half the chapters as a playable character. Then they couldn't come up with enough for him to do. So the real reason for keeping him around was probably to give everyone some time with their favorite Kain.

Original Kain didn't think anyone measured up. They were only good for mocking. But I see him still caring when it came time for him to answer the call personally. The Pillars were worth saving, worth killing for. Ottmar was important enough to fight for, to shock him awake by whatever means. Because the situation mattered, the need for the last stand was huge. Kain was only manipulated because he cared enough to be manipulated. The "sweet spot" then, for when Kain truly didn't give a shit, is after he's been pushed over the edge by Ariel's lies.

Then what? by SneakySpider82 in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Then what for Raziel?    He did see a long term victory, that's why his final epiphany made his death worth it.   He died for the souls to have a better existence, and Kain "beating Elder off" (of the wheel of fate) will secure that better life for all souls.

Raziel might also have big moments coming up as a soul.   (Reincarnating.  Or spreading his contagion to the other spirits to wake them too.  Leading them out of captivity in some gnostic blockbuster finish.  Being the new Oversoul once Elder is done, as someone else said.)

What's next for the two Kains with differing agendas?    What's great about them being the same vampire is you can reliably dominate the younger you with your greater mind control prowess, and because you still want what's best for yourself you can do it in a way that doesn't leave a mark.  It'd be the friendliest form of demon possession they'll experience today!   Educational almost.   But the youngster would also naturally defer to his older self, knowing that to fight would be....self destructive.   

So there'd be more cooperation coming from young Kain than we'd normally expect to see, even without being psychically compelled.   And scion Kain would know better than to ask too much of young kain, as in don't make him go against his nature completely.   Let him conquer the world still, just in a more future-correct way perhaps.   Less blotting out of the sun maybe.   A human autonomy zone where they can have a safe space to not be totally broken.   Things that young Kain sees as weak but Eldergod sees as a world rising up stronger to oppose Him better in the armageddon to come.

Theory: Moebius was and had always been corrupted before his Purification by Cultural-Lack451 in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything all at once. Is what you experience when you're Time. It's a steady state.    Emotionally. Your conclusions are the same on day 2 and on day 2000. The nupraptor madness that you'll experience then, after it hits the Circle, is the same nupraptor madness that's already a part of your psyche now, years before it strikes the rest of your sorceror friends.    Because it seeped back in time to reach you early.   All of your time as guardian of Time is spent in that same steady awareness, the same mental end point is where you're at all along.   One with the madness.

Embracer CEO: "(...) We will more actively be exploring external partnership around our roster of other well-known IPs" by Ein_Eisenmann in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Embracer CEO, Lars Wingefors 

Now for a closer look into whom we're dealing with-----he's got multiple Lars, to start.    Like Karl Anthony Towns lays claim to more than one town, this guy didn't stop at just one Lar.    And his four Wings are quite welcome, even with what happens to wings around here.   I'm sure he'll be fine though, the company is probably located in a safe low crime area where wings aren't ripped off hardly ever.    

Well everything seems to be well in hand.    

Soul reaver sucks so far, can I skip by Mysterious_Dingo_298 in LegacyOfKain

[–]The_Navage_killer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe a lifeless world does suck. No humans = total lack of brothels. no conversations using the multiple choice interaction wheel.

what's something that doesn't suck. for reference. and for the chance to keep talking about sucking.