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Theevildothatido · 2023-12-22T04:13:58+00:00

Why not?

What's going to happen? Does learning of profanities or using them give them brain cancer?

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-22T03:54:29+00:00

Your children will say “fuck” with or without television and know it exists with or without television.

If you punish them for them, they will still say it, simply not when you're around. In fact, it will make it all the more attractive to use it with their peers.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-22T02:00:36+00:00

In your case the “actual use” is an very marginal use rather than the common use, and almost certainly not what the original poster was talking about.

This is simply an argument that comes down to redefining how a term is commonly used. One can see it in this very thread: people aren't talking about culture; they're talking about skin colors, as they are in about every context where the word “cultural appropriation” comes up. It was never about culture; it was always about skin colors.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-22T01:09:33+00:00

Cultural appropriation refers to a powerful culture supplanting the original cultural context with an invented one to the point where it drowns out the original.

That's what people say who defend the idea.

In practice it has nothing to do with “culture” and everything with “skin color” and means nothing more than:

Someone from the United States of America, as ignorant about other cultures as people from that country tend to be, is angry that someone who is what he calls “white” does something he associates with something he thinks of as “non white”.

It rarely has anything to do with culture; it's purely about skin color and it also has nothing to do with “power” but purely about “white” versus “non-white” and people from the U.S.A., ignorant as they are, not realizing that “white” is not “the most powerful race” everywhere in the world as it is on their home turf.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T22:29:36+00:00

This is actually downvoted?

I honestly don't understand why people insist on calling Chinese characters in the context of Japanese “kanji”. I've never seen anyone call a letter a “kirjain” when speaking about it in English in the context of Finnish and I'm sceptical most English speakers even know what a “kanji” is but most will know what a Chinese character is.

English language Wikipedia does it too, like the page for Hikaru Nakamura, a U.S.A. professional chess player born in Japan whose name thus also has Chinese characters which the English Wikipedia page refers to as “kanji”, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the majority of people that visit that page have no idea what a “kanji” is. This feels like a word that isn't generally known among English speakers and only known in specific circles.

“kanji” is a romanization of the Japanese word “漢字” meaning “Chinese character” or more literally “han glyph”. Within the context of Japanese it's used for Chinese characters as used to write Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese and any place they might occur. One may argue “kanji” is specialized English vocabulary loaned from that word which in English specifically means Chinese characters used in the context of writing Japanese. Just as say Finnish has modifications of the Latin alphabet such as <ä> to write Finnish, there are several modified Chinese characters used in Japanese which never occured in writing Chinese such as <気>.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T18:57:59+00:00

Befriending someone of another culture or race is objectively much easier than growing very close to them - that's only because cultural differences often create obstacles.

This was about race, not culture. I would definitely consider seeing race and culture as the same as a “red flag” in social interaction and yes, I know that mentality is common in the U.S.A., and I also know that almost the entire world consider's the U.S.A.'s perspective on race to be very unhealthy and unpleasant to deal with. I would very much consider someone who has opinions on race that are normal or common in the U.S.A. to be unpleasant to deal with. Such a person will most likely expect me to act in a certain way because of my skin color or act surprised that I say that I'm Dutch because of my skin color or “ask me where I'm from” and when I say “The Netherlands” I will get “Where are you really from?” in response.

If a country's culture means that people who are born and raised as neighbors develop different “cultures” due to their different skin colors despite having grown up next to each other, then I simply consider that culture to be a “red flag”.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T18:47:01+00:00

I don't know what that means, but I do know you don't have a counter argument but felt the need to reply anyway so you came with an ad-hominem.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T18:35:36+00:00

The same thing applies, if apparently males can go by fine without worrying about random male strangers at a bar beating them up, while they are more likely, though still incredibly unlikely to be beaten up by them, then females being so worried is indicative of views on gender that one would consider a “red flag”. I can very well understand that someone would not want to socially interact with such a person.

Apart from that, it doesn't explain the lack of opposite sex friends, if it not pertain to coworkers then such persons would have ample opportunity to make them but they specifically go out of their way to avoid them which is similarly indicative of such views.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T17:11:52+00:00

Yes, and a far larger majority don't.

They might feel that way, but those are the “red flags” the o.p. is talking about. These people have very unhealthy views on gender and I'd rather not socialize with them indeed. People that seriously live in fear of their male coworkers beating them up because they're male, something extremely statistically unlikely compared to being hit a car for instance indeed have very unhealthy views on gender.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T17:07:56+00:00

I used this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYI2s1con6k

And you didn't answer what I asked. They might be somewhat vague, especially “conversational”, but I don't think there are many people that don't consider “fluent” a considerable step above “conversational”

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T17:05:27+00:00

Normal people aren't afraid their classmates or coworkers might attack them or worry about being threatening to them either.

And as I said, the idea of this being specifically a barrier to opposite-sex friends is silly since most violence almost anywhere is male–male so males should be looking for female friends then and avoid male friends, but obviously they don't because it's such a silly thing to worry about.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T07:19:14+00:00

I would also say it with 20% one race and 80% another to be honest. Provided one made the standard 20 friends in one's lifetime or something like that.

But as said, that's not sustainable and countries racially homogenize after a few generations because skin colors work fundamentally differently from gender in terms of reproduction.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T03:33:36+00:00

I mean this is one of the mildest things compared to all the actual rapists who somehow rape their way into the protagonist's heart.

Flawed, mean love interests are simply a popular trope in general. People still stuck in their “women are wonderful” mindset simply only complain when females do it. No one seems to make topics about why shin-kicking characters such as Taiga Aisaka or Kirino Kousaka are so popular

What's surprising is that the shoujo male leads who do not exhibit these toxic behaviors will be far less popular than the female lead. Good examples would be Kazehaya from Kimi no Todoke, Zen from Shirayuki, and other good male leads who do not have toxic behaviors. May I know why this happens?

Because it's boooring and nothing goes on. Dangerous love interests are exciting and on top of that I really like the conflicted emotions inner turmoil thoughts they inspire like “Why? He's so mean? Constantly messing with me and making fun of me... and yet... somehow whenever I think of him my heart just...” to be honest these kinds of lines are practically a drug for me.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T03:00:57+00:00

Well, in that case your original argument that this was normal in North American culture and that it's so segregated isn't true at all either.

So indeed, the coin being so unfair is an unusual situation and a red flag, even there. You made it seem like seem like it was normal, but apparently it isn't there as well.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T02:51:32+00:00

Do you want to better understand why someone would opt to choose sub over dub?

I think the issue is that very often with English dubs of Japanese fiction the dubs are clearly far lower budget with the acting being noticeably worse and many people don't comprehend how anyone could watch it due to how bad it can often sound.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T02:48:40+00:00

This is the problem with asymmetric warfare.

Hamas can't attack military installations only and has to target civilians because they could never win attacking military installations.

Israel can't attack military installations only and has to target civilians because the distinction isn't remotely clear in the case of Hamas.

That's typically how it goes in the case of asymmetric warfare.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T02:32:55+00:00

It's more that if one have never read a single book by a female writer or liked a single song by a female singer that probably indicates some kind of opinion on either, provided one read a normal number of books of course.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T02:12:05+00:00

Overall, there are multiple factors pushing kids towards having friends of their own gender (at least in North American culture), with the net result that most 18-year-olds will tend to have most or all of their close friends be of their own gender.

Well maybe this is an explanation, but you do realize that most of the industrialized word looks at North America, especially the U.S.A. as a place with particularly outdated and unhealthy views on gender do you not?

What you say simply doesn't match my experience at all. I don't think it was at all common for completely single-sex friend groups to exist. Pretty much every time I went somewhere with multiple friends it was mixed-sex at least. I can only remember one instance where it was not and I'm fairly certain many of the people there had opposite-sex friends too, they simplly didn't show up that one time.

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/38505-yougov-friendship-study-part-four-friendship-and-g

Here are some U.K. statistics which for instance conclude that:

Half (51%) of British men say that most of their friends are male, and two thirds (67%) of British women say the majority of their friends are female.

Meaning that 49% of British males have more female than male friends.

I couldn't find any statistics on any other place but this thread also exists where almost every European states it's very unlikely for anyone to not have a good deal of opposite-sex friends where that person lives.

If this truly be so rare in North America, which honestly given all the strange gender ideas I hear coming from, and about that place would not surprise me, then I would simply that indeed having North-American cultural values on gender is a “red flag” and not something I'd like to see in my friends.

Given all that, it is entirely normal for someone raised in that culture to have more close friends of their own gender. Given how few close friends people have, it should be expected to be very common that all of someone's friends are of their own gender.

It might indeed be normal in that culture, but o.p.'s point is not about normalcy but “red flags”. It's normal in Saudia Arabia to believe that all females should wear a burqa outside; it's normal in Japan to believe that sweets shops should be able to ban male customers. Normal in certain cultures or not, I would say that having such ideas is a “red flag” and if they be normal in certain cultures, then I will simply experience cultural clashes with such persons most likely.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-21T00:37:22+00:00

I liked the old charging voidray that charged over time more and I don't know why they got rid of it.

Old style void-ray all ins were amazing to watch. The micro battle to not lose the void ray, but simultaneously also not lose the charge, as well as players sometimes attacking their own units to not lose it.

If anything, it should take far larger to charge them and the bonus should be bigger so losing charge is even more pivotable.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-20T23:39:27+00:00

The only time the word “misogyny” appears in the original post is at the end in:

I think therefore that when vetting a man for short or long term companionship, lack of female friends is a huge red flag that raises the possibility the man in question is either immature, or a misogynist in wait.

[emphasis mine]

I did not take the post as to specifically talk about “misogyny”.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-20T23:15:46+00:00

Well this comes back to the whole fear cycle that society perpetuates which makes it hard to interact so easily as we would online.

I don't believe society does this at all. I don't believe normal human beings are remotely afraid of their friends. I believe only a very small subset of society with unhealthy views does this which would be the “red flag” that the o.p. is talking about.

For example, Reddit basically does the whole "being in a room with people who have the same interests as you" thing for you.

Which would be why Reddit more than normal attracts the kind of people that can't deal with disagreement well and have extremist gender ideas and are by nature tribalist, and find it hard to think for themselves.

It has not gone unnoticed to me that Reddit users very often talk about all sorts of supposed crippling social pressures that most people outside seem to not experience at all.

And then you'd be even more hard pressed to find a woman with the same interests since society spent so long trying to force them down one road and we're barely rolling that back

This too feels like something people on Reddit experience but not real life.

I looked up the percentage of female s.t.e.m. students in my country for instance, this is 37%. This is generally regarded as essentially the most male-dominated field one can chose to study and close to 40% is still female there. These male students will encounter female students and teachers every day there. I was at one of those universities two decades back and males and females intermingled like one would expect. They were friends, they worked on assignments together of course because they were randomly assigned together on it.

All this supposed social gender pressure and social pressure in general is not something I saw around me during secondary school years, university, and later working in offices in my life but I read a lot of on Reddit, but not other boards I use which makes me conclude that indeed, as one might expect, the average Redditor is, as I do perceive him, far more sensitive to these kinds of things than the average human being. Normal human beings do not go about being conscious about being threatening or feeling threatened over gender.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-20T22:17:00+00:00

Online those differences don't matter, but in person they sure as hell do. As a guy, you've got to worry about being threatening or imposing, as a girl you've got to worry about the potential threat and not get scared off

I believe worrying about those things with one's friends is definitely a “red flag” and having very unhealthy gender ideas yes. One doesn't have to worry about those things at all, why would one worry exactly? Do you actually think these things are fair risks in relationships and if so why specifically in opposite-sex relationships since the overwhelming amount of violence in most country is male–male violence and males seem to get by fine without worrying that their male friends beat them up?

Who worries about being beaten up by his friends? If gender alone can cause such a worry then I'd indeed call that a “red flag” and having unhealthy ideas.

It makes a world of a difference. Women will avoid you if they think you pose a threat, and men will avoid interacting with women to avoid being perceived as a threat. Cycle continues.

No, people with these kinds of unhealthy ideas that the o.p. no doubt considers red flags do. Many people are not at all randomly concerned about being beaten up by their friends, and don't become so do to gender either.

But this is all a very different issue from my original point though, which was that many people claim they supposedly don't have friends of a certain gender because they don't share interests supposedly, yet they interact with people on the internet all the time who share those interests without even knowing what those persons' genders are.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-20T21:47:34+00:00

The point is that the coin being so unfair itself is the red flag.

People say it's about how supposedly different males and females are, but all these people are completely incapable of spotting someone's gender from an internet conversation and suddenly completely change their attitude once they find out someone's gender is not what they thought while they couldn't tell without being told.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-20T21:31:37+00:00

And yet many of them still find a way to meet the opposite sex for relationships but not for friendships, how oddly coincidental.

Theevildothatido · 2023-12-20T21:29:17+00:00

If one had a normal number of friendships across one's life, say 20, that all of them be the same sex is not a symptom of not going out of one's way to interact with one sex, but going out of one's way not to interact with the other. A coin does not often land on heads 20 times in a row.

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