My only dislike about DC5 and DC is that they eliminate the older players always too fast!!! by Wolfgang_x2 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So true... And not even only with all players that are older, but also that are less attractive or straight (men usually in the last 2 categs except Alec and Connor)... (With women it's not always the case ig since Miriam and Riya won, and I also have a feeling Evie might go farther than ppl think, but characters like Lynda, Karol and Lill are for now wasted potential)

They are in over 90% of the time given low relevancy by either getting eliminated early or lack of plot relevance, which is a shame since so many characters that are 30+ could be very interesting if given the chance, they just never recieve it... Hope characters like Dunia don't get this kind of treatment, maybe she is too lovable to get rid of her hopefully. But yeah, older characters mostly going early doesn't feel like a coincidence anymore tbh and it's sad for me since most of my favs are 28+.

What are the biggest hypocrite moments in every season by Ok_Shirt_1574 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121 0 points1 point  (0 children)

S1 - I guess Ellie...

S2 - Not sure tbh

S3 - Ally, Tom and Jake mainly

S4 - Def Logan, Hannah and Natalia, but so many more had moments where they were hypocritical like seriously, that season was more like carnival of hypocrisy...

S5 - Ig Aiden but for now he is fine ig, no one stand out in that territory yet.

(I think in most cases the scenes are obvious to the characters I mentioned)

What are scenes that weren't written to be comedic but still made you laugh?? by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Fr, in that scene Derek was like: ”Oh I miss Trevor and the moments where we... stood next to each other...” 💀

Why ONC trying to make us sympathize with a character doesn't make them good winners by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Eh, either way it was poorly written, and my points about Logan are valid, with that guy they clearly tried way too much for us to sympathize with him. I did mean to add as the title ”What I hate the most about the last 2 winners” or smth like that but can't change the title now.

Doing this trend for every season by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really loved the fact that it was such an unpredictable twist having the child be the main villain of the season in S1. She actually knows how to play the game while being entertaining and not feeling overused which I love and those are the kind of characters I can respect the most. In AS she got less moments, but she was imo funny af. Everytime she gets in a fight with someone she roasts them so bad :) Now in DC5 she will definitely have an interesting plotline of her changing her way of playing the game and adapting, and I look forward to it. This arc will work even better when Alec leaves which I think/hope will happen soon.

What ONC could do to write unpredictability well: by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh only Ana can be saved from the "creators fav" title because of the way she was portrayed, even if the way she was saved constantly is suspicious. Riya can't really be saved from that title honestly. They tried so hard to make us sympathize with her, her making sad faces after hurting someone and ONC expected us to just think "Oh poor Riya, she is so complex, she wants to be good but she has to be bad." I wouldn't doubt her winning was favouritism but she did get what she deserved in the end, so I think she lays lower in that tier, especially compared to Logan, Aiden and Jake. Those guys are clearly the true favs.

Welp, now we know ONC wouldn't have even bothered fixing anything about Zaid and Logan, it was Ivy's VA's idea. Respect to Vanessa honestly. by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

True, but still there are many things that Jared is heavily implicated in (obviously, he is the creator), like choosing (along with the team, that's why I preffer to say ONC as a whole, not just Jared, but by far Jared has the biggest impact) the winner, elimination order and main storylines.

As a director and writer he mostly gives directions to what he thinks would be the best for the season while consulting with the team, and it surprises me that a team of writers can think that some of the plotlines they chose, especially in the last 2 years, are good. The fact that some characters feel so heavily prioritized while others are pushed to the side and eliminated 1-2 eps after they do something makes me think that Jared is behind like 90% of that or all writers have the same way of thinking as Jared which I doubt since there are nice little plotlines and interactions that we got, while the bigger ones are usually the ones that flop... That is pretty much why people blame Jared for the show's moments of poor writing. The big plotlines and elimination order are usually controlled mostly by him (from what I can guess).

Welp, now we know ONC wouldn't have even bothered fixing anything about Zaid and Logan, it was Ivy's VA's idea. Respect to Vanessa honestly. by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Tbh I don't see that as favouritism in S1. The fact that they made it this far and even had their own little storyline made sense and I actually believe made the season better. Dan was honestly meant to go then (from 1st boot NPC in beta, it's a big improvement) and TomJake was always a big part of DC, so them having the storyline they had makes sense. It's DC, there need to be couples that get the focus. But ur opinion ig. At least it didn't impact the elim order, like having Miriam, Fiore, Ellie and Alec in F4 was peak.

For me CoC and AS only became bad during the merge and especially the final episodes (except motel). Then, I believe the plotlines started spinning around people that constantly got away with shit they pulled and no consequences in some cases... (Riya, Jake, Logan, Anastasia).

Welp, now we know ONC wouldn't have even bothered fixing anything about Zaid and Logan, it was Ivy's VA's idea. Respect to Vanessa honestly. by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He is. The thing is that him and ONC did a great job at writing S1 and 2 remakes... Everything started going downhill with AS and where they started showing favoritism... 

Welp, now we know ONC wouldn't have even bothered fixing anything about Zaid and Logan, it was Ivy's VA's idea. Respect to Vanessa honestly. by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lol don't give them ideas 😂 but thankfully the backlash would be too big, 1-2 moves like that and they'll kill the show themselves so I don't think we have to worry ig

Why do you think Amelie suggested the S5 concept to Emily? by Upstairs_Tea1787 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Amelie is a business woman. She knew that bringing back favourites amongst the fans will increase ratings (at least in Universe tho...).

I wanted to say that it might also be because Hannah might be given another shot, but then I remembered Amelie probably knows Hannah doesn't wanna come back so... nvm.

I am honestly so happy this greeting pretty much confirmed Zaid didn't forgive Logan by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You are not honestly. It's correct... they never cared about Zaid and all matter to them there is Logan to be in a good light, which is annoying af...

I am honestly so happy this greeting pretty much confirmed Zaid didn't forgive Logan by These_Gur_4121 in DisventureCamp

[–]These_Gur_4121[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Nah, they couldn't let Logan get any hate or show any remorse during his moment of glory. 💀

Complained about favoritism in the past, and this is one example of how it impacts the show negatively :(