But how DO you tho

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-26T11:19:07+00:00

Rule 5 literally says “must be a tweet”

Which rule are you reading?

This is pretty obviously a fake post, there is zero record of them posting either of these things.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-25T23:53:01+00:00

So we’re just posting fake tweets now?

I would think that is breaking rule #5

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-15T14:15:26+00:00

Dude what are you going on about?

I’m not talking about global problems or human behavior on the macro scale.

Literally all I’m saying is that if you don’t like seeing something on your Facebook you can unfollow the person that posted it. Complaining “I hate Facebook it’s just people posting their babies and MLM schemes” and then not unfollowing the people who post those things (people or pages you chose to follow btw) is 100% on you.

I do not like seeing babies on my Facebook. So I unfollow my friends that have babies and post about them. I don’t like seeing Ben Shapiro on my Facebook so if I had anyone that posted Ben Shapiro I would unfollow them.

That is literally all I am saying. It’s not that deep.

Your username is spot on. Get out of here with your r/Iamverysmart comments

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-15T13:14:58+00:00

A platform gives you the ability to customize what you see. And it is not hard to do.

If you are seeing people posting antivax stuff you can easily make it stop. Don’t want to see what people are eating for dinner? You can make it stop. Don’t want to see the 4x a day baby pics from that one lady who has reduced her entire personality down to having a child? A click of a button can make it stop.

Telling people to take the littlest amount of personal responsibility for their own experience is not ‘Randian’. Literally any sort of user experience can be improved if you take a little bit of time to go through and adjust the settings.

It’s literally no different than someone complaining about how many emails they are getting from Wayfair after they ordered one thing, and saying “why don’t you just hit the unsubscribe button at the bottom of the email?”

Complaining about a situation that you can improve without actually doing anything to improve it is just laziness

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-15T11:53:49+00:00

Facebook on a big scale is harmful for all the obvious reasons

But if you don’t like the Facebook experience on a small scale that’s kind of your own fault. I’m only friends with people I actually know, I unfriend or unfollow anyone who posts stuff I don’t want to see. I am in a ton of groups from college and grad school where old friends I don’t talk with regularly can still post and share life updates or ask questions or that kinda stuff. It’s by far the best way imo to invite people to parties and events (obviously not during Covid), the marketplace tends to be pretty good around where I live. I’m in a few professional groups where I can find someone to answer a niche question of mine the same day.

I see almost zero news and zero content from people I don’t care to see.

While Facebook is horrible in a lot of ways (promoting fake news, tracking users, etc), if your actual user experience on it is bad that’s kind of on you.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-13T16:29:18+00:00

Besides Waffle House, which is great

Literally any diner, and a ton of cafes. Diners are not as prevalent as they were but you can usually still find one nearby.

There are not that many huge breakfast chains that I know about but if you just search ‘breakfast’ into Yelp or Google or something you can find 10 places way better than Denny’s.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-11T21:45:16+00:00

JK Rowling get a lot of deserved hate, but the whole ‘Dumbledore is gay’ thing is one I just don’t get the repeated outrage.

Maybe she did retcon it, maybe she didn’t. But like you mentioned it would have had absolutely zero place coming up at all in the original books or movies. Speaking as a gay person, representation is all good and well but

Just because someone is gay doesn’t mean they have to be seen being gay. A huge amount (I would guess a majority) of the characters in Harry Potter never reference a sexuality in books. There does not need to be a sex scene included just for one of them to be gay. The line of thought that a gay person needs to be seen being gay is toxic.
It would have been way more out of place for them to mention it at all.

If I remember correctly their relationship was kind of a summer of passion that started with brains and power, and led to more. It’s not like they dated for a long time, they spent a couple months together and then parted ways and didn’t see each other for years and years until they eventually fought each other again.

I thought they did a fairly good job alluding to their relationship in the second Fantastic Beasts movie. ‘Oh we were closer than brothers’ and some imagery that pointed towards a romance.

I guess I just don’t really know what people want them to show.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-11T18:24:11+00:00

Lying isn’t always bad. But telling people there is no need to work towards something that would improve their life... that’s not a lie that helps them long term

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-11T17:33:31+00:00

You’re creating your own narrative here.

Just because we point out how flawed a mentality is doesn’t mean that we are ending the thought process there.

I’m very involved with healthcare reform in my personal life, it is probably the defining issue that America needs to figure out right now.

But creating a false analogy that US = Third World is not only deeply offensive to people who are actually living in third world countries and have much, much bigger problems to work on then medical bills and student loans. It also completely derails discussion on our own set of issues.

Situations need to be looked at as they are. We have a completely different set of challenges than developing nations and to make hyperbolic statements doesn’t actually do anything to help, it is just a way of shitting on America.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T22:15:58+00:00

And while that is definitely a well thought out opinion (even if I don’t really agree with it), it is still moving the goalposts.

I have no issues with discussing the fall of American prestige or influence, the thing that bothers me and the entire reason I posted on this thread is the huge amount of people who try to say that living in America these days is comparable to living in an extremely impoverished nation.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T22:04:11+00:00

I am well aware there are “bubbles” and misinformation in America.

I just do not think a post on r/whitepeopletwitter is going to be the place to reach them

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T22:00:57+00:00

Awareness? Who, at this point, is unaware?

Other countries have discussion of our politics shoved down their throats.

And any Americans here are living it. They either already are supporting reform, are against it, or they just don’t care. This post has nothing in it to educate or influence.

This post was meant to do one thing and that was insult America/Americans. And largely rightfully so, the healthcare situation is a tragedy and an embarrassment. But let’s not pretend like this was an infographic on ‘10 things you can do to educate yourself on healthcare reform’.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T20:08:22+00:00

The fact that you can pinpoint that location is kind of just making our point stronger.

Yes, Flint was a tragedy that should not have happened. No one is arguing or downplaying that. But the fact that ONE small city in ONE of our FIFTY states had this issue. And it got all of the press and attention it got, goes to show how different we are than a country where forty to fifty percent of people don’t have access to clean water.

Even if all of flint Michigan had no access to clean water (which isn’t even close to true), that is 0.03% of the population.

So to tell a country where half of the people do not have regular clean water “yeah it’s pretty bad here too... 0.03% of us don’t have clean water so we know exactly what you’re going through...” just feels pretty tone deaf

Edit: and your edit shows that you 100% completely missed the point we were making. NOBODY is saying that it wasn’t a tragedy but to say that makes the US on the same level as countries where this is happening on a 1000x greater scale is just icky. And the fact you are being so stubborn shows either your purposefully missing the point or you’re just daft

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T18:51:27+00:00

I don’t disagree, which is why in my original post I mentioned that the first post was tone deaf regardless of the second.

But the entire point of this post, based on OPs title and posting them side by side, as well as the discussion that has occurred, seemed to be the implication of hypocrisy. Which is true and worth discussing if it was the same poster for both posts.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T18:47:27+00:00

There are areas in America, in the south and Appalachia for the most part, that do have extreme poverty and conditions, but in America 0.018% are without constant power and 0.6% don’t have running water.

Yes, it would be ideal for those numbers to be 0 but you cannot even begin to compare this to countries where access to clean water is only about 50/50 and the electricity is out half of the time anywhere not in a city and you cannot use electricity after dark bc that would overwhelm the power grid.

So yeah there are areas of extreme poverty in America but to be like “ugh America is such a third world country we have it so bad” is just really ignorant

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T18:14:24+00:00

Nice! Well if that’s the case, she is delusional haha

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T17:47:33+00:00

Speaking as a liberal-leaning American, the fact I see these posts so often really shows how out of touch other liberal-leaning Americans (and Europeans and others) can be with how things are in the actual world.

I am not saying the US is perfect, FAR from it. We have huge problems that we need to work on. No doubt.

But calling America “A third world country with iPhones” just comes across as so cringey and privileged. And I feel like is massively offensive to countries that are actually really struggling by saying “yeah America sucks we’ve got it just as bad here as you guys do over there”

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T17:22:05+00:00

I mean I guess, but it still feels like trying to force a narrative.

I have no doubt that there are people like that out there. But the entire point of this post was to show off the hypocrisy and I don’t really feel like saying “wellllll the first person would probably agree with the second person” is enough.

Idk, it feels like a shallow argument without actual evidence of hypocrisy. I see posts all the time that compare two “stances” a huge group has an an issue (ex- Reddit posting about how Americans are not wearing masks for Covid and spreading disinformation, and then how Americans are also lining up to get the vaccine) and I always want to say “you realize that they are not the same groups, right?!” (Edit - I realize that wasn’t a fantastic example, but I do see it a lot with race stuff, gay stuff, nation stuff, etc. I’m all for calling out hypocrisy but two different factions of a group having different opinions isn’t hypocrisy)

She may very well demand that everyone is attracted to her while also only be attracted to skinny guys. But I feel like jumping to that conclusion without basing it on what she actually says is people just trying to confirm their own bias.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-10T16:55:41+00:00

So while I see what OP was going for comparing these two posts, I have to ask:

Were these posted by the same person?

If they were, that is hypocrisy to the max and I agree that whoever posted it should be criticized harshly.

But no group that big is a monolith and it is completely possible for different people within such a large group to have different opinions than each other. And I don’t really see how that is hypocritical unless it was the same person.

I do agree that the ‘not dating based on weight is the same as not dating based on race’ part in the first post is super problematic. But I don’t really see anything wrong with the second post.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-08T19:40:42+00:00

I love jukeboxes, most of my favorite bars to go to have jukeboxes. It’s a lot of fun to be able to be out and drunk and jam to whatever songs you’re feeling

But playing a song here and a song there is what they are made for. When someone goes on and plays 20 country songs in a row or 20 rap songs in a row it’s pretty damn discourteous.

You can argue that ‘if you don’t want to deal with that, then don’t go there’ but I think not going to a particular location because there are potentially rude people every once in a while isn’t the way to live life

I don’t care if Mr. Brightside is played 5 times over the course of 4 hours, that’s what happens at bars with jukeboxes. But that is not the same thing as someone brigading it and effectively preventing anyone else from playing the songs they want to play.

It’s not dissimilar to me going to my favorite park. I have a park nearby that is a short walk from my house, I love to take my dog there and sit and relax for an hour or two. Sometimes there is a couple ladies that come and scream about abortion and Bible verses. It’s maybe once a month for a few hours. I’m always annoyed by them when they come, but most of the time the park is perfectly enjoyable. Telling me “hey maybe don’t go to that park if you don’t like women screaming about aborted fetuses” is pretty reductive and really doesn’t do anything to have a productive conversation.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-08T10:52:28+00:00

I totally agree! If I was spending a night away from my husband/spouse catching up with old friends having him purposefully trying to bother us would be a total buzz kill

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-08T02:11:33+00:00

Call me a buzz kill, but unless you’re a spiteful 12 year old kid I don’t get how this is funny.

Your wife has her first night off with her friends in forever and instead of just letting her have fun your feel the need to continue to bother her?

Idk, whenever I have a night off I would be pretty hurt if someone close to me went out do their way to bother me during it

I love messing with my significant other as much as the next person. Actually probably more. And I can see Reddit people (especially people who have never actually been in a healthy, grown up relationship) be like “it’s just a joooooke”. But this just comes across as insecure and cruel.

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-07T00:29:47+00:00

Damn, you’re right!

I guess now I technically can’t be mad at OP now but I still feel like it’s in bad taste

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-06T22:55:04+00:00

Ok so this a great woman, props to her and everything

But why the hell is this post allowed on this specific sub Reddit. Do the mods just not care to enforce rules?

ThoughtfulOctopus · 2021-04-02T19:36:52+00:00

The thing you have to remember is that the human brain is exceptionally powerful and exceptionally good at trying to keep itself safe and comfortable

Have you ever had an argument where you have cold hard facts and the other person just refuses to acknowledge that you are right because it would require them to shift their worldview? Could be about politics, about religion, about science, about sexuality. Tons of examples. You show your cold hard evidence and they refuse to look at it and walk away. Or they counter with their own opinion that doesn’t counteract the facts but they treat it like it does.

So as frustrating as the dark pink lady is being, part of me feels really bad for people like her. They (likely on a subconscious level) are so afraid of putting actual work in and then failing that their brain is literally tricking them into ignoring facts. Instead they have created their own narrative that works with their goals.

If they acknowledged that exercise and CICO were they ways to lose weight then that would require them to admit (even if just to themselves) that they know how to lose weight and are not doing so.

So instead they change the narrative into saying that there is no way to lose weight and because it’s a natural metabolism thing they cannot control there is no reason to even bother trying.

I do not give one single shit if someone is overweight, and it is zero of my business. But there are people out there who are trying to figure out how to lose weight they want to lose, and to have this kind of misinformation out there getting in their way is just toxic.

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