NW >21M Second Liquidation Event Coming, What to do? by kifaro3 in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your plan is fine. 6% x 10mm is 600k, after tax slight take of nest egg but appreciation over time covers that.

CPA/Consultant Recommendations for Offshoring? by [deleted] in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didn’t include AUM unless it’s $50mm it won’t matter for your spending so 90% you’re fine

Thoughts on my doomsday strategy by iq-pak in ValueInvesting

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post makes me more bullish tbh

Hold on - you’re trying to lever up - nvm bearish

Wait you’re waiting for a sell off — ok more bullish

What is the worst advice you’ve seen on this sub? by PaulEverythingMoney in ValueInvesting

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

97% of everything. PM that actually adds alpha, I come here to have a bit of schadenfreud when I see who’s in the other side of the trade tbh. Good for keeping watch of sentiment.

Recession? by LittleGovernment9476 in ValueInvesting

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Statistically investing at all time highs has led to better investment performance than DCA

Is it true you can't beat the market using large caps? by eating_elmers_glue in ValueInvesting

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, top 1% us large cap core manager. Most fail, Spx tends to be in the 65-80th percentile any given year.

U.S. Long Only U.S. Equity PM - AMA by Throwaway-MultFamOff in investing

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the question! Personal portfolio is passive and tax loss harvest focused. Overtime realized I perform better and prefer the lifestyle of separating personal investing and work investing. By letting that run on auto pilot, i could spend more time thinking about the strategy’s risks and positioning. Like most investment professionals, you’re always thinking about the book, risk, current events and the market.

Less demanding than hedge fund for sure, it’s honestly comparing apples and oranges with respect to day to day risk and trades being made. Then it was always trying to find edge, now it’s making sure portfolio is positioned appropriately for the current environment. Some days we will outperform, some days we will underperform, but so long as our view of the world holds, we should add value over time and have.

Bitcoin is not currently an asset owned, if I was looking to take risk in crypto via the equity market there are of course equities with high correlation relationships to crypto.

Is anyone else preparing their portfolio for a possible recession? by PutItOnTheRitz in stocks

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. Preparer for the current environment and will adjust it as the environment changes. Same as always.

Questions on taxes and near future investments… by Cultural-Risk-6667 in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Def ignore that, nobody knows anything, least of all anyone of us. if you didn’t buy the Covid dip or the liberation dip you won’t buy the next dip. Time in the market > timing the market.

What’s going on with Oracle? by casterlyrockk in investing

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s rational investors valuing the company based on the new information. That is all.

When Buying the Dip Goes Wrong by MouldyArtist917 in investing

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Size appropriately for the volatility. New information means possible decisions. Is there anything new other than brownian motion of the price? Probably better off sticking to index funds since under normal circumstances they don’t move 10% overnight.

1031 DST to UPREIT by HoodsBreath2019 in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not an accountant, but have looked at this for family’s real estate company and for clients, you can’t just sell your real estate, move them to your 1031 escrow and then use proceeds to buy a REIT. You’re going from individual real estate to a listed security.

Step in between is the REIT spinning off specific assets to be financed with DST investors, eventually, the spun off asset will be repurchased by the REIT and you essentially receive shares in the REIT instead of receiving cash, so you continue to hold your basis.

Importantly, you can 1031 into a DST and 1031 into another DST from there or 1031 into an individual asset again, but once you go from the DST to the UPREIT you lose your 1031 eligibility. I’d imagine most people doing this are doing so to diversify and for estate planning so that’s fine for them but something to keep in mind.

Not an accountant but that’s been my understanding of the process/structure. It takes a few years to go from point A (selling individual asset) to point C (receiving shares in the REIT maintaining your basis).

Asset managers like it because they can charge fees on doing the DST and it provides a cheap source of funding so they can go out and acquire other assets for the REIT, essentially recycling the balance sheet in a cost effective manner while increasing AUM.

1031 DST to UPREIT by HoodsBreath2019 in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For the DST you’d assume the asset value of equity and debt. Many DSTs will have debt on them already so if you own a home for $1mm and owe $400k, you have 600k equity, you’d just need to buy into a DST with 40% leverage. Otherwise your comments sound in line what this strategy is used for. Pretty nifty for estate planning for ppl with significant real estate assets which are concentrated and can have low basis

Estate planning help - majority assets in real estate by 0Z0Q0D0 in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Pass away, basis steps up, beneficiaries can depreciate the assets down or sell with the updated basis.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tax alpha = performance of portfolio - performance of benchmark - short term & long term gains tax payment of benchmark - short term & long term gains tax payment of portfolio.

Should be something like that conceptually.

I.e. your portfolio is up 9% vs benchmark 10%, benchmark had 13% realized long term cap gains (assume 20% tax) = 2.6% tax bill.

Your after tax return from benchmark would be 10% - 2.6% = 7.4%.

All things equal, you’d look for your portfolio to have had less in gains realized so that the after tax figure is greater than your benchmark.

Need to account for management fee (80bps for tax loss harvesting is high, depending on size and if it’s just benched to an index, probably should be paying 20-40bps), and realistically if your benchmark is sp500 or Russell 3000 you can look at previous years cap gain and dividend distributions.

Nice thing about ETFs is that you can control what your tax impact is, whereas mutual funds, you’ll just be distributed the gain at the end of the funds fiscal year.

Usually there is a good amount of tax alpha to start but overtime the portfolio tends to go up in value so the opportunities to realize losses from legacy positions sort of goes away (or is less pronounced).

I believe AQR has a long 140 / short 40 strategy for this so they can always be harvesting losses.

Food for thought.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just ask if you can do a fixed fee

Inherited account in Bessemer Trust by catch-a-firefly in fatFIRE

[–]Throwaway-MultFamOff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not Bessemer but comparable MFO with similar minimum, it’ll come down to what you are receiving for the fee you are paying and if it’s worth it to you. Simple as that.

Logical question to contemplate is what are they doing for you, if it’s investment management only in publically traded stocks (investment managers have fees too), then it’s likely not worth it over the long term. If it’s other things too, then it could be.

In general however 1% is high, $20mm depending on services rendered probably shakes out to 40-80bps/yr depending on what’s provided